Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Sojourner » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:27 pm

straight talker wrote:After so many lies and so many failures are they really up to leading our great country??


Hardly are the first political party or group of individuals to do that! ;)

Still its all about short term pain for long term gain for the opposition. Yes they have to put up with being in opposition for another two years, however they get to blame absolutely everything they can think of with the help of news ltd on the ALP, the ALP have never had a worse showing in the polls as they do currently, likely when the vote is finally taken, so many of the unrusted on voters are going to be so biased against the ALP through media conditioning along with the Liberal party TV commercials repeating Juliars pledge to not have a carbon tax that they will likely get smashed like they did in NSW and perhaps lose seats to the Greens also which they wont get back for a long time, think it will take at least three election cycles for Labor to get themselves back into the hunt again.

The only way Labor can stem their losses is to get Kevin Rudd back again as PM, have him then take a different carbon tax package to the people at an election and compete directly with Abbots Direct Action policy. Labor will still lose, yet it wont be by anything like what they are going to get if GIllard remains as their leader, now having lost face in the eye of the public.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby RustyCage » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:54 am

straight talker wrote:he didnt sell his soul did he?


Yes he did sell his soul. Just as desperately as Gillard did. The difference between Julia and Tony is that she was more successful. If encouraging the Independents to side with you so you can form government is considered "selling your soul" then who did Abbott sell his soul to?

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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Gozu » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:29 am

INDEPENDENT Andrew Wilkie has angered senior Coalition powerbrokers, who feel betrayed after he rejected an offer from Tony Abbott that will see the Tasmanian MP's local hospital receive $1 billion.

Coalition frontbenchers were last night furious that they had been snookered by Mr Wilkie, who labelled the Opposition Leader's offer as over the top and irresponsible - after he had originally demanded a replacement hospital and rejected the offer once it was given.


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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Bully » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:45 am

no they arent. but neither is any polly party
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Psyber » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:11 pm

Bully wrote:no they arent. but neither is any polly party
Regretfully, I have to agree with that.
I'd like to see more independents and more real debate about issues, rather than one party, or any combination of a major and minor party, in total control.
Too many decisions are made on dogma rather than debate of the merits and practicalities.
But that would slow decision making down, so a small executive would need the power to make urgent day to day decisions that could later be reviewed, and ratified or revised.
That gets us into major structural changes of parliamentary function...
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:18 pm

something as big as this carbon tax scam should of been taken to the election so the people of Australia could have decided if it was best for our country as politicians are there to represent the people,she would not have won the election if she had of said that she would be introducing it if she won. Its very clear the reason she didnt tell the people of oz because she would of been in the opposition as of now.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Bully » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:38 pm

death threats towards julia on radio in recent days.

I hate her but death threats are just going to far. Anyone that does this should be locked up.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:13 pm

yes i agree with you bully thats not on,unfortunately there are people in the world that do this stuff to leaders of countries.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Sojourner » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:13 pm

Bully wrote:death threats towards julia on radio in recent days.

I hate her but death threats are just going to far. Anyone that does this should be locked up.


The radio is supposed to be on a 7 second delay to stop things like that going to air??? If the radio stattion has clearly given that the green light to go ahead they should be considered in breech of their licence and either suspended from broadcasting or they should be fined accordingly. [-x
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby southee » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:26 pm

Sojourner wrote:
Bully wrote:death threats towards julia on radio in recent days.

I hate her but death threats are just going to far. Anyone that does this should be locked up.


The radio is supposed to be on a 7 second delay to stop things like that going to air??? If the radio stattion has clearly given that the green light to go ahead they should be considered in breech of their licence and either suspended from broadcasting or they should be fined accordingly. [-x


Agreed.....should not even to reported by the media anyway. It should be dealt with the Federal Police accordingly.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:54 pm

Australia Post have created and marketed a new stamp displaying a picture of the current Prime Minister of Australia, Ms Gillard. The prime minister had requested a recall of the stamps following concerns that they weren’t sticking.

Australia Post recently suspended a recall of the stamps after the findings of a special Senate Committee were released.




The Prime Minister was told that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes and the enraged Prime Minister demanded a full investigation.


After a month of testing and expenditure of $1.85 million, a special Senate Committee led by the leader of the Greens, Bob Brown, presented the following findings –


1) The stamp is in perfect order.
2) There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3) People are spitting on the wrong side of the stamp.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:13 pm

straight talker wrote:Australia Post have created and marketed a new stamp displaying a picture of the current Prime Minister of Australia, Ms Gillard. The prime minister had requested a recall of the stamps following concerns that they weren’t sticking.

Australia Post recently suspended a recall of the stamps after the findings of a special Senate Committee were released.




The Prime Minister was told that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes and the enraged Prime Minister demanded a full investigation.
After a month of testing and expenditure of $1.85 million, a special Senate Committee led by the leader of the Greens, Bob Brown, presented the following findings –
1) The stamp is in perfect order.
2) There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3) People are spitting on the wrong side of the stamp.


The 80's called. They want their Margaret Thatcher joke back. Seriously get some new material.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:39 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
straight talker wrote:Australia Post have created and marketed a new stamp displaying a picture of the current Prime Minister of Australia, Ms Gillard. The prime minister had requested a recall of the stamps following concerns that they weren’t sticking.

Australia Post recently suspended a recall of the stamps after the findings of a special Senate Committee were released.




The Prime Minister was told that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes and the enraged Prime Minister demanded a full investigation.
After a month of testing and expenditure of $1.85 million, a special Senate Committee led by the leader of the Greens, Bob Brown, presented the following findings –
1) The stamp is in perfect order.
2) There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3) People are spitting on the wrong side of the stamp.


The 80's called. They want their Margaret Thatcher joke back. Seriously get some new material.


Like this gem of new material?
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby southee » Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:49 pm

straight talker wrote:Australia Post have created and marketed a new stamp displaying a picture of the current Prime Minister of Australia, Ms Gillard. The prime minister had requested a recall of the stamps following concerns that they weren’t sticking.

Australia Post recently suspended a recall of the stamps after the findings of a special Senate Committee were released.




The Prime Minister was told that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes and the enraged Prime Minister demanded a full investigation.


After a month of testing and expenditure of $1.85 million, a special Senate Committee led by the leader of the Greens, Bob Brown, presented the following findings –


1) The stamp is in perfect order.
2) There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3) People are spitting on the wrong side of the stamp.


Bloody funny!!!! :lol: Sort of like a Two Ronnies joke ;)
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:26 pm

bloody oath its a pearler! Just like all the crap that gillard and brown are sending out to the people of Australia in the post now explaining there tax rubbish! I know mine is return to sender care of gillard and brown at P. House Canberra. what a waste of OUR MONEY!
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby redandblack » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:35 pm

No, a waste of money is Mr Abbott saying he'll spend billions of dollars on a plan to pay big polluters to stop emitting 'weightless' carbon dioxide to slow climate change that he doesn't believe in.

st, I presume you protested about the Howard government spending vastly more money on political advertising?
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Gozu » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:51 pm

redandblack wrote:No, a waste of money is Mr Abbott saying he'll spend billions of dollars on a plan to pay big polluters to stop emitting 'weightless' carbon dioxide to slow climate change that he doesn't believe in.

st, I presume you protested about the Howard government spending vastly more money on political advertising?


Exactly, where were people like the ironically named "straight talker" (who lies or exaggerates in every post he makes) when Howard was spending hundreds of millions of OUR MONEY!!1! on advertising for WorkChoices including mousepads and fridge magnets, a policy he never took to an election.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby Jimmy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:55 pm

Bat Pad wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:
straight talker wrote:Australia Post have created and marketed a new stamp displaying a picture of the current Prime Minister of Australia, Ms Gillard. The prime minister had requested a recall of the stamps following concerns that they weren’t sticking.

Australia Post recently suspended a recall of the stamps after the findings of a special Senate Committee were released.




The Prime Minister was told that the stamp was not sticking to envelopes and the enraged Prime Minister demanded a full investigation.
After a month of testing and expenditure of $1.85 million, a special Senate Committee led by the leader of the Greens, Bob Brown, presented the following findings –
1) The stamp is in perfect order.
2) There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
3) People are spitting on the wrong side of the stamp.


The 80's called. They want their Margaret Thatcher joke back. Seriously get some new material.


Like this gem of new material?


Haha, got him, yes, gone...caught at BAT PAD! ;)
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:53 am

ha ha yes got him caught at bat pad? whats all this.
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Re: Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

Postby straight talker » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:34 am

Now we have gillard sticking up for a labor minister who has been blowing OUR money on high class hookers!!! :oops: :oops: but it wasnt him?? it was his card his signature but it wasnt him?? even tho they check the persons ID when the amount is so high!!
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