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[mighty_tiger_79]

LABOUR on all fronts both STATE and FEDERALLY have absolutely NO FARGEN IDEA!!!!!!!!!

THEY SHOULD HAVE HOWARD AND THE other LIBERALS BY THE BALLS AT THE MOMENT, but because they are UNEDUCATED FARGWITS we all suffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Er..just fill me on this one mt. Who exactly are the Liberal Premiers again??

regards,

REB

what i am saying is that LABOR is screwed FEDERALLY and they arent doing a very good job at STATE LEVEL either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[noone]

Look's like the Labor is going to put the darlings of the Latte socialists, Rudd and Gillard into the top jobs,

Ok ill accept that gillard is a left faction member, a good one at that (im in the left faction myself), however Rudd a socialist... that was the funniest thing i read today, untill I saw the crissy pyne leadership post....

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Labor has won the last 26 (?) state elections, I think they are doing a pretty good job. The ALP will likely lose a couple of the states in the next cycle, some of the state governments are in their 3rd and 4th terms, and goverments tend to get turned over in that time. NSW might go (which will improve the federal chances) but they will likely hold the east coast for another cycle. The howard government is approaching the same point and will tilt either this turn or if not 2010.

Ill assume that the pyne was a joke, he's in the wrong faction, a costello backer so I dont know how he would leap frog costello to the pm's chair. He also dosn't have an overly safe seat (its 6.8% atm, however that will reduce at the next eleciton), while Sturt wont be lost by the liberals, it will mean he will have to put some more money and time into the seat instead of a ministry. Its no where near the problem that being in the wrong faction (or 'leaning'..) but its a factor.

Thats ofcourse assuming he's leadership material, which he aint, he's a factional powerbroker.

[Magpiespower]

Labor has won the last 26 (?) state elections, I think they are doing a pretty good job.

Not in NSW.

[mick]

Apparently noone Rudd was talking about principles of "christian" socialism in his article in the Advertiser today. If the ALP starts using the "s" word again they'll be in opposition permanently. But, Rudd is a brave man if he puts that bald wanker on his shadow front bench

[redandblack]

Looks like he'll be a brave man, then.

I'm still recovering from Wedgie labelling Jimmy Barnes a communist

[scoob]

Im still waiting for the practical joke to be unveiled and they admit that Julia Gillard is the new character in 'Kath and Kim'...

[Wedgie]

Looks like he'll be a brave man, then.

I'm still recovering from Wedgie labelling Jimmy Barnes a communist

lol, I meant the unions, Jimmy Barnes is just a hack no talent singer!
(but he does have a talented son).

Shame to hear about Kim Beazley's brother, poor bugger must have wondered why he got out of bed yesterday.

[PhilG]

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[Wedgie]

Anyone who suggests that Howard will win the next election is going to get an earful from me!

I suggest/think he will win the next election, doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him, why should I get an earful?

[Magpiespower]

I do know that in New South Wales the Liberal opposition is a mess - a bad one. And it's been like that for a long time as well.

Could easily be talking about the NSW Labor government.

A Labor voter - I'll put in a donkey vote before voting for those b@st@rds again.

Debnam blundered big time with his attack on Debus.

If Brogden was still leading the NSW Libs, Iemma and his merry band of crooks would be in big trouble.

Because everyone in NSW is desperate to boot them out of office.

[redandblack]

Anyone who suggests that Howard will win the next election is going to get an earful from me!

I suggest/think he will win the next election, doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him, why should I get an earful?

Of course you're going to vote for him, so I'm dobbing you in for an earful from Phil

[Wedgie]

Of course you're going to vote for him, so I'm dobbing you in for an earful from Phil

lol, probably.
Its always hard as I'd probably be better off in my job if Labor was in, I usually put the country before myself though.
I'd probably be better off if the states and feds swapped around.

[PhilG]

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[Wedgie]

Anyone who suggests that Howard will win the next election is going to get an earful from me!

I suggest/think he will win the next election, doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him, why should I get an earful?

Because he's killing the grass roots of this country, Wedgie that's why! I went a big rant in the 48 hours after the last federal election because I felt (and still feel) that the majority of people who voted for the Coalition where either greedy, gullible, intolerant or any combination of the three. Once I calmed down (and that didn't happen until early 2005!) I realised that even though I was right - Latham ran the wrong campaign. So the Coalition didn't win the election - the ALP lost it.

Come election time this year - I'm not going to hold back. Howard's going to get the whole gambit. Human rights, petrol prices in regional Australia, transport (public) and education.

For the sake of the social fabric of society, Howard has to go! That's more important than big business getting their perks!

That still doesn't explain why I should get an earful if I suggest Howard will win the next election but vote Labor.

[mal]

Now that Norwood have the pokies approved at Gilles Plains I cant
vote for Nick X anymore.

[topsywaldron]

I can only hope someone made the Back Nine Pyne gag.

BTW How's those interest rates going Mick? Not going up because of your beloved Johnny's profligate ways with our money at the last few budgets are they? Pretty soon they might get up to the 20% they were when he was treasurer under Fraser.

[am Bays]

PhilG you have one big problem at the last election the seats Labor had to win to win government became much safer up to 5% swing required and you lost more like the two Tasmanian seats, Kingston here in SA and Wakefield (which was nominally Labor after the redistribution hence why the sitting Liberal member upped and ran.....)

You need to win 14 seats and the 14th most marginal seat the coalition holds is held by a margin of 4.3% Which interestingly enough is the Prime Minister's seat of Bennelong, I reckon incumbancy will get him through!!!! Good Luck!!!

So I will be very very surprised if the Labor win Government in 2007, At best Labor will pick up seats to make victory in 2010 more likely and the coalition will lose control of the Senate....

Stay tuned for some interest rates cuts in September, tax cuts in the MAy budget and I wouldn't be surprised if some "technical corrections" to the IR laws will be introduced to take the wind out of Labors IR attacks.....

[PhilG]

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[noone]

Labor has won the last 26 (?) state elections, I think they are doing a pretty good job.

Not in NSW.

i'm talking electorally, and as magpies said the opposition is a rabble, and they will likely be returned.

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As for Labor needing to win 14 seats its also worth nothing that turnbulls seat is about 10th on that list, he wont lose his seat, so Labor need to take 14 of the top 16.

With Rudd being a queenslander it will give the ALP a big boost in QLD, where they have the most to gain.

14 seats will be a stretch, however it has to be remembered that the current margins are working of a low base, cant really go much lower than latham did, meaning it will be quite easy to the first 11 marginals all under 3%, beyond that it will be hard work.

(btw pendumlum is here http://www.ozpolitics.info/election2007/reps.htm)

[mrjbeam1981]

That still doesn't explain why I should get an earful if I suggest Howard will win the next election but vote Labor.

Huh?? It doesn't???

PhilG you have one big problem at the last election the seats Labor had to win to win government became much safer up to 5% swing required and you lost more like the two Tasmanian seats, Kingston here in SA and Wakefield (which was nominally Labor after the redistribution hence why the sitting Liberal member upped and ran.....)

You need to win 14 seats and the 14th most marginal seat the coalition holds is held by a margin of 4.3% Which interestingly enough is the Prime Minister's seat of Bennelong, I reckon incumbancy will get him through!!!! Good Luck!!!

So I will be very very surprised if the Labor win Government in 2007, At best Labor will pick up seats to make victory in 2010 more likely and the coalition will lose control of the Senate....

Stay tuned for some interest rates cuts in September, tax cuts in the MAy budget and I wouldn't be surprised if some "technical corrections" to the IR laws will be introduced to take the wind out of Labors IR attacks.....

Tassie, the polls at the moment are saying that effectively the ALP [b]WILL get those seats that they need to form government. So don't flip that off.[/b]

Yes, the losses in Tasmania didn't help the ALP (that was a good example of greed as I said in my first post on this thread, because Howard threw his so called commitment to the environment to the winds and sucked up to the timber industry) and hopefully Tasmania now realises the folly of their actions.

There won't be any interest rate cuts if there are tax cuts. Tax cuts will push the up button on interest rates if anything because spending (which is already threatening to overheat the economy hence the most recent rate rise to stem it) will go up again. As far as any changes to the IR laws is concerned, that would be a MASSIVE back down by Andrews as well as Howard because they've been pulling this from the start as good for the workers and really winding up that philosophy. To admit there needs to be changes would be a win for the ALP.

Hearing on the news this morning that Kevin Rudd is announcing a policy aimed at "stopping the blame game" regarding the health system.

Poles, schmoles. the only one that counts is the one at the end. in my election people kept saying to me - "i've voted for ya, you have heaps of votes coming in JB. i didn't get excited until my name was announced.