Who will be Prime Minister?

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Who will be Prime Minister

Poll ended at Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:08 pm

Julia Gillard
21
45%
Tony Abbott
26
55%
 
Total votes : 47

Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:04 am

On the other hand, Tony, um, ah, is a great, um, ah, speaker, not a ranga (automatic disqualification if so) and an inspiring leader, um, ah, no more questions, um, stop the boats (except for 3 a year) ;)
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:16 am

redandblack wrote:On the other hand, Tony, um, ah, is a great, um, ah, speaker, not a ranga (automatic disqualification if so) and an inspiring leader, um, ah, no more questions, um, stop the boats (except for 3 a year) ;)
You're right again R&B. Bob Katter would be the least embarrassing PM candidate of those three!
I liked the other Qld independent, Tony Windsor, when I saw him speaking on TV, but he has said he is definitely not interested in the Speaker position or a Ministerial appointment.
So, I guess he'd refuse to be PM too!
I also liked Malcolm Turnbull until he embraced the tokenist ALP ETS - as I've said the Greens and Democrats offer more sensible Carbon Tax policies.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Wedgie » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:35 am

redandblack wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
fish wrote:What a difference a day makes - here are todays odds for who will form government:

COALITION $1.85 in from $2.25 yesterday evening.
LABOR PARTY $1.92 out from $1.60 yesterday evening.


Labor were $2.60 early in the day yesterday when I said they were good value.


Whatever the gamble, there's never 'good value' about a losing bet :)


Not so, if you grabbed Labor at $2.65 and then grabed thr Libs when they were over $2 you could set up your bets so you can't lose. Anyway my bad, wrong forum!

The odds continue to fluctuate, now Libs $1.55 Labor $2.35
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby am Bays » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:14 pm

Psyber wrote:
redandblack wrote:On the other hand, Tony, um, ah, is a great, um, ah, speaker, not a ranga (automatic disqualification if so) and an inspiring leader, um, ah, no more questions, um, stop the boats (except for 3 a year) ;)
You're right again R&B. Bob Katter would be the least embarrassing PM candidate of those three!
I liked the other Qld independent, Tony Windsor, when I saw him speaking on TV, but he has said he is definitely not interested in the Speaker position or a Ministerial appointment.
So, I guess he'd refuse to be PM too!
I also liked Malcolm Turnbull until he embraced the tokenist ALP ETS - as I've said the Greens and Democrats offer more sensible Carbon Tax policies.


Tony Windsor is in Sincers old Seat of New England NSW.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:34 pm

I saw a group of old schoolmates for lunch today - including a former state ALP Minister.
His ALP-sourced of figures lead him to think the final split will be 73 all or 74/72 in favour of the Coalition, and that in the end the Coalition will probably form a government with independent support.
[I wouldn't put down money to bet in either direction myself.]
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:41 pm

That seems as much of a guess as any of us would make, Psyber.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:47 pm

redandblack wrote:That seems as much of a guess as any of us would make, Psyber.
Yeah I think so, beyond the fact that he may have more information about the postal vote trends than me. I've been assuming 73 all.
He also says that, in SA, Mike Rann has decided he will stay on and contest the next state election.
He didn't comment on how the party felt about that, just smiled minimally when asked.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Q. » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:52 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:Id be embarrassed to say that Gillard was our PM elect. Shes a terrible speaker, a ranga and certainly not an inspiring leader, the opposite infact! Fingers crossed!


I reckon she's way more articulate than our previous two PMs. Tony Abbott is a terrible public speaker - "Well, I do. I do. I do know. I gay - I know some gay people extremely well, Tony. I really do. I really do, mate, okay..."
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby stan » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:31 pm

Well at the moment its looking like finishing up something like:

Labour 72
Libs/Nat 73
Independants 4
Greens 1

With the gang of 4, being a green and a mad man this should be an interesting week. Although considering the greens havet he balance of power in the senete it could be frusting for a Libs/Nat + Independant government.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby stan » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:34 pm

redandblack wrote:On the other hand, Tony, um, ah, is a great, um, ah, speaker, not a ranga (automatic disqualification if so) and an inspiring leader, um, ah, no more questions, um, stop the boats (except for 3 a year) ;)


Well with Tony in charge at politics wouldnt be boring. In all serious though, he has carried himself very well through this campaign, and if he can maintain the same discipline then there is no reason he couldnt be a decent PM. Then again if puts the speedo's on again thats all reveresed.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby fish » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:54 pm

This poll is currently running at 50-50.

Much like the election result. :shock:
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:04 pm

Tony Abbott appears to be refusing to have his policies costed again.

What conclusions do we draw from that?

Seriously.
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Q. » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:13 pm

They're both in the red. Are you suggesting he is deep in the red?
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:30 pm

I am indeed, Q.

He didn't want his policies costed during the campaign and got away with it with a compliant media whoi would have crucified Gillard if she'd tried it.

I'd say the independemnts aren't as easily fooled.

Interesting that the Murdoch press don't yet appear to have noticed this tiny, little story ;)
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby dedja » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:49 pm

redandblack wrote:I'd say the independemnts aren't as easily fooled.


Sorry, I can't reconcile Bob Katter and that statement at all ... :-s

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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:02 am

I stand corrected on that devastating point, dedja :D
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:49 am

dedja wrote:
redandblack wrote:I'd say the independemnts aren't as easily fooled.


Sorry, I can't reconcile Bob Katter and that statement at all ... :-s

:D



A man who wants to turn rivers back inland.
A man who said he'd walk backwards to Burke if there were any homosexuals in his electorate
A man who described critics of racism as "slanty-eyed ideologues"
And the crowning turd in the sewer pipe a man who in 2009 explained his opposition to emissions trading thusly: "I mean, if you could imagine 20 or 30 crocodiles up there on the roof, and if all that roof was illumination, and saying that we wouldn't see anything in this room because of a few croco-roaches up there".
If any of you out there can make sense of this statement please let us know.

Go back to the polls I say and get rid of this idiot's power. He shouldn't be allowed to debate in parliament let alone hold the country's fate in his hands. :twisted:

Mind you he was a minister in Bjeke Petersen's cabinet, and that would explain a helluva lot. ;)
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Gozu » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:06 am

Oh dear.

"It is very difficult for the public service to understand Coalition policy with the same depth as government policy."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 993448.htm

In other words if they had have gotten in it would've been "Oh my look at all this, this GBN Labor debt now um look the policies we outlined during the election campaign will have to be amended or scrapped entirely".

House of cards :lol:
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby Gozu » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:49 am

"Abbott alienates key independent":

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's refusal to have Treasury cost the coalition's policies would make it harder for crossbench MPs to support him becoming prime minister, a key independent says.

"He's the one who looks so bad," Mr Katter told ABC Television on Wednesday.

"Now if he looks so bad and he's got someone to hide, it makes it much more difficult for us to give him the gong to become prime minister."

Mr Katter said Mr Abbott's move looked like an attempt to force another election.

"If they're playing some sort of acute game, to go back to the Australian people, well I wish you well son," he said.

"If you think the Australian people are going to put up with this sort of tomfoolery, you got another thing coming."


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=7951115
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Re: Who will be Prime Minister?

Postby redandblack » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:35 am

How on earth can anyone support a man for Prime Minister when that man says he not only doesn't trust the Treasury he will be in charge of, but says they don't understand his policies?

What's he going to do - sack all the Treasury?

A recipe for stability?

I think we're now seeing the real Tony.
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