Are the Labor party and Julia Gillard credible?

[redandblack]

What's your take on Mr Abbott's statement that he wouldn't sack a Coalition MP in the same circumstances?

Do you think any Coalition MP has ever used escorts and not said so?

What's your comment on the Liberal Senator who is actually facing charges over shoplifting and assault?

[The Sleeping Giant]

I have no problem with anyone paying for sex.....as long as it's their own money, not their employees.

[Sojourner]

What's your take on Mr Abbott's statement that he wouldn't sack a Coalition MP in the same circumstances?

Do you think any Coalition MP has ever used escorts and not said so?

What's your comment on the Liberal Senator who is actually facing charges over shoplifting and assault?

1, havent heard / read that statement from him, so no real opinon, considering how politics runs it might change with the level of dirt found, News ltd are likely accessing and checking his phone records to be ready for this evenings news bulletin...

2, On the basis of probability I would suggest its more than likely, as on the other thread its all legal anyway, so no real issue there.

3, Charges should be filed and if illness is an issue the courts have the capacity to take it all into account and will deal with it accordingly.

[redandblack]

I agree, Sojourner.

[Psyber]

One of my legal friends doesn't think they are credible, but neither he nor I would claim he was unbiased.
He sent me this reprocessing of an old joke today:

MY PRAYER

Dear Lord,
I know that I haven't talked to you that much recently, but in past years you have taken away:
my favourite actor, Patrick Swayze,
my favourite actress, Farah Fawcett,
and my favourite musician, Michael Jackson.

I just wanted to let you know that my favourite Prime Minister is Julia Gillard...

Amen

[redandblack]

The wit of the conservatives knows no bounds, Psyber

[Psyber]

The wit of the conservatives knows no bounds, Psyber

True but their humour is tolerant.
Despite his poltical views, this friend is also very close to former SA Communist candidate, and later Supreme Court Judge. Elliott Johnston. [Of Johnston Withers.]
I've recently bought Elliott's biography "Red Silk" and am getting him to sign it for me when I see him next in early September.

[redandblack]

Agreed, mate

[straight talker]

What's your take on Mr Abbott's statement that he wouldn't sack a Coalition MP in the same circumstances?

Do you think any Coalition MP has ever used escorts and not said so?

What's your comment on the Liberal Senator who is actually facing charges over shoplifting and assault?

have not seen his statement so i will not comment.
Hang on a minute R&B i have no dought they have done it but im sure they have payed for it out of there own money and then im sure they would not have said that someone stole his card,wallet,mobile phone and license to use in hiring high class hookers!
when you go to these places and spend up like he has and use a card to pay they actually check all identification.
1/ they had his card
2/ they checked his signature
3/ they checked that his photo on his license was the same person producing it!! but it wasnt him he said??

[straight talker]

and the lady in question is before the courts so they will decide. If she did the crime and gets found guilty well i have no sympathy for her. do the crime do the time i say. Lets hope this deviout has to go before courts and tribunals as well. I see on sky news tonight he has been under investigation before and some other issues may be out in the open shortly too. BY-election i hope and then it will be by by Labor/gillard/swan.

[southee]

What's your take on Mr Abbott's statement that he wouldn't sack a Coalition MP in the same circumstances?

Do you think any Coalition MP has ever used escorts and not said so?

What's your comment on the Liberal Senator who is actually facing charges over shoplifting and assault?

I think the liberal senator is like chalk and cheese from the issue of a MP using a government credit (our money) card for escorts.

You are totally diverting the issue there R&B.

[southee]

and the lady in question is before the courts so they will decide. If she did the crime and gets found guilty well i have no sympathy for her. do the crime do the time i say. Lets hope this deviout has to go before courts and tribunals as well. I see on sky news tonight he has been under investigation before and some other issues may be out in the open shortly too. BY-election i hope and then it will be by by Labor/gillard/swan.

Party at Southee's place!!!!

[straight talker]

i agree with you southee and that is exactly what R&B does all the time. He just spins his political spin just like gillard/swan/combet do. You will never get a straight answer from these labor lovers they are always trying to handball an issue all the time. OH OH OH but it wasnt me someone stole it all!!! and then returned it all back to me. He must have a twin as the person who produced all the id looked a spitting image of him. But juliar said it wasnt him so these one eyed labor lovers will go with that.

[southee]

i agree with you southee and that is exactly what R&B does all the time. He just spins his political spin just like gillard/swan/combet do. You will never get a straight answer from these labor lovers they are always trying to handball an issue all the time. OH OH OH but it wasnt me someone stole it all!!! and then returned it all back to me. He must have a twin as the person who produced all the id looked a spitting image of him. But juliar said it wasnt him so these one eyed labor lovers will go with that.

The old school Labor diversion tactic........got to love it

[straight talker]

yep thats all you get from a couple on here...

[redandblack]

If you two can stop the partying and celebrating the fall of the Government, you will see that far from diverting, I have at least twice made it clear I agree that his behaviour hasn't been acceptable.

I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to raise similar transgressions by the other side of politics on a Politics Forum.

Would you like me to remind you if you do the same

[Psyber]

What's your take on Mr Abbott's statement that he wouldn't sack a Coalition MP in the same circumstances?
Do you think any Coalition MP has ever used escorts and not said so?
What's your comment on the Liberal Senator who is actually facing charges over shoplifting and assault?

I think the liberal senator is like chalk and cheese from the issue of a MP using a government credit (our money) card for escorts.
You are totally diverting the issue there R&B.

Our R&B is very skilled at subtle diversions and shifts of emphasis, and asking others to meet standards of proof he doesn't always meet himself.
In this case he is dressing as comparable two totally different scenarios.

There is evidence the Senator on shoplifting charges may have a transient episode of a serious mental illness and therefore not be regarded as responsible at the time by the courts.
That may itself raise questions about her fitness for office, but then, it may have been related to changing medication, as a colleague has suggested, and not be an ongoing issue.
That will be sorted out in court, and by doctors, and if the court rules the illness was significant then dismissal should not be automatic, provided she has recovered and is competent again.

In the other case there has been no suggestion of any disability playing a part, and if that is proved to be simple criminality, there is no excuse.
Any politician who deliberately and knowingly commits a criminal act should lose office, regardless of which party they represent.

[southee]

Spot on psyber ..... 2 totally different issues . R&B you are really clutching at straws there mate !!!

[straight talker]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6118467385
MORE LABOR LIES????

[straight talker]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/edi ... 6118493972