Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

[straight talker]

no result yet but i cant see him being too worried!

[straight talker]

so gillard will have a debate will she??? http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/articl ... -news.html

[Gozu]

so gillard will have a debate will she??? http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/articl ... -news.html

Where was Beazley's debate when Howard brought in WorkChoices without taking it to an election?

[straight talker]

my answer was in relation to a comment made earlier that gillard would hold a debate on this isue but this article tells me abbott is keen but juliar is hiding! i dont know maybe beazley didnt want one as he knew he would be made to looke like the idiot he was. wish they would bring johnny back as Australian workers never had it so good, altho workchoices are still alive they are jus called something different!! fair work from memory?

[redandblack]

Mate, a little more quality and a bit less quantity.

[Sojourner]

Its a pity that we didnt have big Kym now instead of Gillard, he would have made a pretty good Prime Minister if given the chance!

[redandblack]

so gillard will have a debate will she??? http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/articl ... -news.html

Opposition leaders always call for debates.

Anyone who follows politics knows that a Prime Minister never debates an Opposition Leader outside of an election campaign.

[straight talker]

juliar said she will wear the leather out on her shoes to tell everyone about this disaster she doesnt mind getting in a radio booth discussing it how bout she does it in front of the people of Australia?? scared as she will be made to look silly again!!

[redandblack]

That's just silly, st

It's also off-topic, so back to your hero, Mr Bolt.

His latest offerings about the shootings in Norway have been disgraceful. I copped some flak for discussing the media reaction to that, but all the media have been discussing exactly that, and here's some about Andrew Bolt's effort.

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/eve ... t-upright/

It's a long article, but here's some relevant points:

As reports began to come in, it was the last subject in the world you would have imagined being used for political point-scoring. But if ever someone was going to do just that, it was Andrew Bolt.

First thing last Saturday morning, with news still scant, he was on his blog suggesting that Muslim terrorists were behind the attack. Not an outrageous assumption, by any stretch, but ‘pretty sure’ shouldn’t be enough for such a prominent columnist to proceed without confirmation.

Contradictory news soon came in, and the page was hastily and almost comically corrected. “Already the unconfirmed reports suggest our immediate suspicions are correct (UPDATE: No, they aren’t)…”

“In fact: ‘Explosives were found on the island,’ deputy Oslo police chief Sveining Sponheim told reporters. He said a man detained by police was aged 32 and ‘ethnic Norwegian.’”

“Even so,” Bolt went on, “the history of Islamic violence in Scandinavia suggests Muslim immigration there has been a bad deal for the locals.”

Hold up a minute. “Even so”? At what point does a misplaced assumption like that earn the right to an addendum?

In an action replay, it goes: “In latest news, here is some evidence that would definitely prove that I’m right. Oh, wait a minute, that evidence doesn’t exist. Even so, I am actually right, and let’s proceed with that assumption.”

And that was before we even got to the backup evidence. The “history of Islamic violence” that Bolt was able to provide for Norway consisted of three men being arrested (not yet charged or convicted) for possibly planning an attack on either a newspaper or an embassy, no-one is quite sure; and a charge against a man for threatening a politician.

So, two instances of alleged offences that haven’t even gone to court. Not the most weighty habeas corpus ever to land on a judge’s desk.

Not to mention that death threats are hardly germane to radical Islam. I got them from true blue Aussie battlers just last week for writing an article about carbon taxation. Perhaps Bolt can help me arrange to have the culprits deported to Riyadh.

Remarkably, he eventually took the stunning evidence brief down, conceding that “leaving it up is being interpreted as my insisting on a gratuitous point instead.” Truer words…

The article ends:


Over in Norway, the survivors, the family and friends of the dead, and the nation as a whole, have just begun to endure a nightmare that will last for many years.

Here, in our country, Andrew Bolt no doubt sleeps as soundly as ever.

[straight talker]

I have already stated that i think this article was one of his very few poor ones printed at the wrong time and a tad sensitive. 1 swallow doesnt make a summer!

[redandblack]

Fair enough, st.

However, I've just been privy to a hacked 'phone conversation between Andrew Bolt and his editor that I got from a News Ltd 'friend'

AB: "Editor, what's that huge black cloud hovering over our building?

Ed: Buggered if I know, Andrew, but I'm surprised you've only just noticed it.

AB: why?

Ed: Well, it's been there for a long time now, but it just keeps on getting bigger.

AB: I haven't noticed it before.

Ed: Yeah, well, hang on, we've had the cloud analysed and I've just got the results. It's an enormous flock of swallows. It just keeps getting bigger every day.

AB: Is that right!! Well, I'll write about it then.


"Illegal Muslim Black Bird Immigration Destroying Australia"

"Black Cloud Evidence of Climate Cooling"

by Andrew Bolt.

Readers' Comments;

Truth and Reason, of Caulfield

"Just more evidence of Juliars total failure. We are being ruined. Alan Jones is right. We need a new election now before this cloud of Muslim assassins takes over our country"

etc, etc, etc, .

[Q.]

I have already stated that i think this article was one of his very few poor ones printed at the wrong time and a tad sensitive. 1 swallow doesnt make a summer!

This thread has endless examples of his rubbish journalism. Flick through the Pure Poison blog for an even more comprehensive analysis.

[straight talker]

not to many journos or opinionists do write good articles now days apparently apart from the believers in climate change and the carbon tax!

[Q.]

not to many journos or opinionists do write good articles now days apparently apart from the believers in climate change and the carbon tax!

Maybe you should stop reading The Advertiser then.

There is quality journalism out there.

[Q.]

Perhaps this might interest you:

http://www.crikey.com.au/quality-in-journalism/

[The Sleeping Giant]

You think Andrew Bolt's opinion pieces on the Norway shootings is bad, take a look at some of the conservative media in the USA.

[straight talker]

like i said there is a lot of rubbish written every day even from people who are believers of the climate change/carbon tax issue! but a few people on here would not agree with that as they believe anything that is written as long as it is for the climate carbon argument! against and it is rubbish!

[Q.]

like i said there is a lot of rubbish written every day even from people who are believers of the climate change/carbon tax issue! but a few people on here would not agree with that as they believe anything that is written as long as it is for the climate carbon argument! against and it is rubbish!

Can't argue with the data.

But you bury your head in the sand. It obviously suits your partisan outlook on everything.

[straight talker]

yes ok and you bury your head into reading Lawry oaks,mark kenny,al gore and tim flannery as they are the most truthful and trusting people going around! oh and throw in garnaut! In Australia everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you want to take any notice of it its up to the individual. Bolt is an opinionist who i think has a lot of good points.

[redandblack]

Convincing the gullible is one of his strengths.