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bulldogproud wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Sanders is cooked by the looks of it.
Biden v Trump it is then

Yep, looks like someone else will have to take up Bernie's revolution, I suspect he'll be past it four years from now.

If that person is AOC, I will be more than happy... the sooner the better!

Yes, she's probably his heir apparent.

Jimmy_041 wrote:

bulldogproud wrote:

Booney wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Biden sounds like he has onset dementia and could drop dead at any point of his term

See him stumble, stumble, stumble and then claim they have to re-elect Trump?

It would be nice if people voted on policies, rather than on personalities.

If they did - Hillary Clinton would have lost again - she had none

Sometimes a person with few policies is better than a person whose policies divide the nation, promote white supremacy and deny scientific viewpoints.

Those damn deplorables again
All countries should just do away with democracy and let the socialists rule because only they know what’s good for you
It’s worked so well in places like USSR, China, Cambodia, DPRK and Germany

Jimmy_041 wrote:Those damn deplorables again
All countries should just do away with democracy and let the socialists rule because only they know what’s good for you
It’s worked so well in places like USSR, China, Cambodia, DPRK and Germany

Umm, don't mix up Communism or Fascism with Socialism, Jimmy.

On the other hand, according to the United Nations World Happiness Report, the five happiest countries in the world are all more socialist than capitalist in nature:

Finland
Norway
Denmark
Iceland
Switzerland

Cheers

Germany was national socialism.
Everyone was expected to work towards the good of the state.

Jimmy_041 wrote:Germany was national socialism.
Everyone was expected to work towards the good of the state.

The only thing socialist about the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was that it had socialist in the title.

Your theory has been thoroughly debunked, over and over and over and over.

bulldogproud wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Sanders is cooked by the looks of it.
Biden v Trump it is then

Yep, looks like someone else will have to take up Bernie's revolution, I suspect he'll be past it four years from now.

If that person is AOC, I will be more than happy... the sooner the better!

Would like to see her & Candace Owens go head to head for 1st female president.

bulldogproud wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:Those damn deplorables again
All countries should just do away with democracy and let the socialists rule because only they know what’s good for you
It’s worked so well in places like USSR, China, Cambodia, DPRK and Germany

Umm, don't mix up Communism or Fascism with Socialism, Jimmy.

On the other hand, according to the United Nations World Happiness Report, the five happiest countries in the world are all more socialist than capitalist in nature:

Finland
Norway
Denmark
Iceland
Switzerland

Cheers

Even Australia has considerable elements of socialism in the way in which the country operates. A purely capitalist country would:

- not have any public schools, only private ones
- not have any public hospitals, only private ones
- not have a Medicare system
- not have any public libraries, art galleries or museums
- not have any public parks
- not have any public roads (all roads would be toll roads, and access could be denied to certain individuals or groups)
- not have any public access to beaches (all beach frontal areas would be privately owned, and owners could charge people for access, or even deny access to certain individuals or groups)
- (controversial, but is strictly true in a 'purely' capitalist society) not have any public police or defence force. In Australia's early days, all armies were private. For instance, Sir Rupert Clarke (owner of 'Rupertswood', where the Ashes began), had his own private Army.
These are just a few examples.

There has never been a successful purely capitalist society in the history of the world.
Cheers

Q. wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:Germany was national socialism.
Everyone was expected to work towards the good of the state.

The only thing socialist about the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was that it had socialist in the title.

Your theory has been thoroughly debunked, over and over and over and over.

We could say the same of the Liberal Party today - the only thing 'liberal' is its name. It is a conservative party, not a liberal one.
Cheers

cracka wrote:

bulldogproud wrote:

Magellan wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Sanders is cooked by the looks of it.
Biden v Trump it is then

Yep, looks like someone else will have to take up Bernie's revolution, I suspect he'll be past it four years from now.

If that person is AOC, I will be more than happy... the sooner the better!

Would like to see her & Candace Owens go head to head for 1st female president.

Would certainly be an interesting and emotional contest. Not sure how many Americans would support the lady who, according to his records, was the inspiration for the Christchurch mosque killer.

bulldogproud wrote:

Q. wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:Germany was national socialism.
Everyone was expected to work towards the good of the state.

The only thing socialist about the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was that it had socialist in the title.

Your theory has been thoroughly debunked, over and over and over and over.

We could say the same of the Liberal Party today - the only thing 'liberal' is its name. It is a conservative party, not a liberal one.
Cheers

Not sure I'd agree. It's 'liberal' in the sense that it espouses (at least if you pay any heed to its founder's guiding principles) the notions of classical liberalism - small government, low taxes, a laissez-faire free market economy, individual liberties, protection of private property etc.

I'd say it the Liberal Party contains elements towards the right end of the continuum that embrace a conservative ideology (which, at its core, is having faith in tradition and experience over reason), along with the classical liberal proponents whom are referred to as 'moderates'.

Conservatives and classical liberals tend to flock together, I think, because they both advocate limited government, the former due to skepticism (their experience means they don't trust enlarged government and perceived interferences), and the latter from a utopian or rational point of view.

Magellan wrote:

bulldogproud wrote:

Q. wrote:

Jimmy_041 wrote:Germany was national socialism.
Everyone was expected to work towards the good of the state.

The only thing socialist about the National Socialist German Workers’ Party was that it had socialist in the title.

Your theory has been thoroughly debunked, over and over and over and over.

We could say the same of the Liberal Party today - the only thing 'liberal' is its name. It is a conservative party, not a liberal one.
Cheers

Not sure I'd agree. It's 'liberal' in the sense that it espouses (at least if you pay any heed to its founder's guiding principles) the notions of classical liberalism - small government, low taxes, a laissez-faire free market economy, individual liberties, protection of private property etc.

I'd say it the Liberal Party contains elements towards the right end of the continuum that embrace a conservative ideology (which, at its core, is having faith in tradition and experience over reason), along with the classical liberal proponents whom are referred to as 'moderates'.

Conservatives and classical liberals tend to flock together, I think, because they both advocate limited government, the former due to skepticism (their experience means they don't trust enlarged government and perceived interferences), and the latter from a utopian or rational point of view.

Point taken

Given the US healthcare system is completely ******, it is projected up to 1 million US citizens could die from COVID-19

bulldogproud wrote: We could say the same of the Liberal Party today - the only thing 'liberal' is its name. It is a conservative party, not a liberal one.
Cheers

I've always taken pride in defining myself to our leaders as "the left wing of the Liberal Party" but I have some support. I know personally several people in the LP in Mayo who joined me in backing Rebekha Sharkey over the younger Downer recently, and who regularly oppose the extreme conservatives.

Psyber wrote:

bulldogproud wrote: We could say the same of the Liberal Party today - the only thing 'liberal' is its name. It is a conservative party, not a liberal one.
Cheers

I've always taken pride in defining myself to our leaders as "the left wing of the Liberal Party" but I have some support. I know personally several people in the LP in Mayo who joined me in backing Rebekha Sharkey over the younger Downer recently, and who regularly oppose the extreme conservatives.

Rebekha Sharkey is a waste of space.

is not

DOC wrote:is not

is too

I'm happy with Rebecca. I had a chat with her at a local function and she is fairly on the ball.

I'm pleased with Michelle Lensink, too, for another reason - i was seated next to her at a local party function when the raffle was due for drawing and she handed me her tickets saying, "You may a s well have these as I'll have to give it back if I win." I scored a bottle of Port and a Champagne on her tickets while mine won nothing!

A medico friend from Vancouver called me via Zoom the other day. They are getting worried there about he state of the US and the inconsistent line Trump is taking with the COVID-19 saga so close to the border...

That’s nice!

I wouldn’t be voting for her if I still lived in the Mayo electorate. That said Jamie was a dickhead and threw his political career away.

Corona Man wrote:That’s nice!

I wouldn’t be voting for her if I still lived in the Mayo electorate. That said Jamie was a dickhead and threw his political career away.

Absolutely! Jamie Briggs (like the Greens SHY) tended to talk over anyone who disagreed with the line he espoused.
By contrast, I had several quite civil discussions with Corey Bernardi in which I presented the case for supporting gay marriage - at least one of them at Jamie's house!

Like several other local party members I know, i took exception to to attempt to insert the Downer daughter as local member, and particularly over that cheque handover bullshit.