Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

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Does Andrew Bolt have credibility as a journalist?

1. yes
34
32%
2. no
55
52%
3. unsure
7
7%
4. don't care
10
9%
 
Total votes : 106

Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby straight talker » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:52 pm

only she could tell you that ! Could you believe what she said tho is more to the point?? :roll:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby dedja » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:37 pm

see, you can't do it ... yes or no?
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby straight talker » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:04 pm

dedja wrote:see, you can't do it ... yes or no?


Dont NO? do you? :roll:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby dedja » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 pm

cool, so that means you'll shut up about it since you have NFI what happened ...
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby straight talker » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:22 pm

dedja wrote:cool, so that means you'll shut up about it since you have NFI what happened ...


Have as much of an idea as you do thats for sure!
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby dedja » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:30 pm

undoubtedly ... :lol:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:15 am

Word just in. Bolt found GUILTY of breaching the racial discrimination act. More details as they become available.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby best on hill » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:23 pm

Andrew Bolt - is he a racist? yes he is no wonder the right didn't want to apologize!

shame on him their is no room in this day and age or any age for racism we dont tolerate it in sport, in the work place and in every day life so why did he think he could get away with it in the media?
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Gozu » Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:24 pm

"Bolt Guilty":

From the judgement:

7. Section 18D exempts from being unlawful, conduct which has been done reasonably and in good faith for particular specified purposes, including the making of a fair comment in a newspaper. It is a provision which, broadly speaking, seeks to balance the objectives of section 18C with the need to protect justifiable freedom of expression.

23. I have not been satisfied that the offensive conduct that I have found occurred, is exempted from unlawfulness by section 18D. The reasons for that conclusion have to do with the manner in which the articles were written, including that they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language.


http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... lt-guilty/
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby dedja » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:04 pm

deport the racist bastard back to Holland ... :lol:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby fish » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:23 pm

Thread over.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby straight talker » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:24 pm

dedja wrote:deport the racist bastard back to Holland ... :lol:


and take the lying gillard back to england the same time.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby straight talker » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 pm

Gozu wrote:"Bolt Guilty":

From the judgement:

7. Section 18D exempts from being unlawful, conduct which has been done reasonably and in good faith for particular specified purposes, including the making of a fair comment in a newspaper. It is a provision which, broadly speaking, seeks to balance the objectives of section 18C with the need to protect justifiable freedom of expression.

23. I have not been satisfied that the offensive conduct that I have found occurred, is exempted from unlawfulness by section 18D. The reasons for that conclusion have to do with the manner in which the articles were written, including that they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language.


http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2 ... lt-guilty/
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/ruling-against-andrew-bolt-will-harm-healthy-debate-say-libertarians/story-fn7x8me2-1226149096809 some other opinions that make sense i beleive.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:09 am

Bolt's case was not about free speech. It was about misuse of journalism to vilify and defame by trashing the truth
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:11 am

straight talker wrote:
dedja wrote:deport the racist bastard back to Holland ... :lol:


and take the lying gillard back to england the same time.



You're thinking of Abbott. he was born in England. Gillard is from Wales.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Booney » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:30 pm

dedja wrote:deport the racist bastard back to Holland ... :lol:


"There are two types of people I hate in this world. Racists, and the Dutch" :lol:
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Sojourner » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:32 pm

Were the articles published in a newspaper? If so its the paper that will be paying out not Bolt, hence why they have an Editor who is responsable for what they have printed. More than likely News Ltd are more keen for the publicity and may well not care less about the actual issue, putting Bolts name up in lights and attracting more of the right wing paper buyers is likely more what they are interested in, that has been Murdochs way to run the paper to the right of politics ever since they got into the business and then feed the media from the trough - which even the left leaning ones seem to lap up and publiscise anyway!
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Bat Pad » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:20 am

Leaping Lindner wrote:Bolt's case was not about free speech. It was about misuse of journalism to vilify and defame by trashing the truth
- Julian Burnside QC


So why was he charged with breaching the racial discrimination act as opposed to being sued for defamation?
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:23 am

Sojourner wrote:Were the articles published in a newspaper? If so its the paper that will be paying out not Bolt, hence why they have an Editor who is responsable for what they have printed. More than likely News Ltd are more keen for the publicity and may well not care less about the actual issue, putting Bolts name up in lights and attracting more of the right wing paper buyers is likely more what they are interested in, that has been Murdochs way to run the paper to the right of politics ever since they got into the business and then feed the media from the trough - which even the left leaning ones seem to lap up and publiscise anyway!

I think they were also published on his blog website.
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Re: Andrew Bolt - is he a credible journalist?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:32 am

Bat Pad wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote:Bolt's case was not about free speech. It was about misuse of journalism to vilify and defame by trashing the truth
- Julian Burnside QC


So why was he charged with breaching the racial discrimination act as opposed to being sued for defamation?


Because it was a class action by nine parties, and to sue for defamation would have meant nine seperate cases. Also they weren't seeking damages.
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