Copenhagen Climate Change Conference = The League of Nations

[Jimmy_041]

we'll have to wait for divine revelation...

...wherupon the deniers will be cast for all eternity to burn in the flames of hell

And, Yeah, the righteous Believers will take their place in The Promised Land content in the knowledge that they were, indeed, Righteous!

Yeah, but The Promised Land will be all scorched and brown with storm and tempest everyday thanks to the deniers

[Psyber]

What's the PC party, Psyber?

Where it doesn't mean "Personal Computer", PC usually stands for "Politically Correct", which is Labor's primary policy directive in my view.

For someone who rails against posters who label you and don't just stick to facts, the term people in glasshouses comes to mind

If you feel personally attacked by any criticism of the Labor Party and its policies just tell me and I'll be more gentle in future.
Otherwise I think political parties are fair game, as its not personal like abusing, or labelling with abusive terminology, an individual...

[dedja]

I'm just heading down to the cellar boys, red or white?

[redandblack]

What's the PC party, Psyber?

Where it doesn't mean "Personal Computer", PC usually stands for "Politically Correct", which is Labor's primary policy directive in my view.

For someone who rails against posters who label you and don't just stick to facts, the term people in glasshouses comes to mind

If you feel personally attacked by any criticism of the Labor Party and its policies just tell me and I'll be more gentle in future.
Otherwise I think political parties are fair game, as its not personal like abusing, or labelling with abusive terminology, an individual...

Psyber, I don't, of course. I just contrast your lectures to others about sticking to facts, with your propensity to often use simplistic, generic put-down labels when it suits you.

However, I take your point. I won't call you a flat-earther as others have done, I'll just put you in the flat-earther's camp

[redandblack]

I'm just heading down to the cellar boys, red or white?

Do you need to ask me, mate.

Red please, same as my politics

[dedja]

I'm just heading down to the cellar boys, red or white?

Do you need to ask me, mate.

Red please, same as my politics

Da Товарищ ...

Yes Comrade

[redandblack]

Spasiba,

Note to Psyber: I learnt a bit of Russian and learnt their alphabet when I sailed around the world on 2 Russian ships many years ago. The ships were the Shota Rustaveli and the Leonid Sobinov. Were you on them

[fish]

we'll have to wait for divine revelation...

...wherupon the deniers will be cast for all eternity to burn in the flames of hell

And, Yeah, the righteous Believers will take their place in The Promised Land content in the knowledge that they were, indeed, Righteous!

Yeah, but The Promised Land will be all scorched and brown with storm and tempest everyday thanks to the deniers

I'm sure Roy will have that all worked out Jimmy.

[mick]

Hmm, it seems the Mad Monk's climate change policy is favouably viewed in a poll;

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/time-to-scrap-rudd-climate-plan-academics/story-e6frfku0-1225827690090

[Psyber]

And with the public, even if it is a small sample: http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizresults.php

Today's Poll 3392 votes since Feb 7 2010
Do you support Kevin Rudd's ETS proposal?
Yes 20% 684 votes
No 80% 2708 votes

Edit: emboldened as it appears to have been not seen...

[redandblack]

C'mon Psyber, you've got to be kidding putting up polls like that.

[mick]

C'mon Psyber, you've got to be kidding putting up polls like that.

Agreed with regard to on-line polls, but would you care to comment on the Nielsen poll in the link I posted above? I'll make a prediction the Rudd ETS in its current form will be dropped or substantially modified before the next federal election.

[Psyber]

Spasiba,
Note to Psyber: I learnt a bit of Russian and learnt their alphabet when I sailed around the world on 2 Russian ships many years ago. The ships were the Shota Rustaveli and the Leonid Sobinov. Were you on them

No..
I knocked around with a lot of Ukrainian immigrants in my University days, and there were only a few politically acceptable Russians in the mix.
The only Russian and Ukrainian I picked up, apart from the standard politenesses, were words of abuse for Russians which I didn't actually use as I wasn't taking sides...
I've forgotten nearly all of it now, but I do remember a few Russian girls - two Ludmillas, and a Rima, in particular.

[Gozu]

"Turnbull takes aim at Abbott's climate plan and doesn't miss":

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/thestump/201 ... esnt-miss/

[dedja]

Nominations are now open for preselection for the seat of Wentworth ...

[mick]

Nominations are now open for preselection for the seat of Wentworth ...

If it were the ALP you would be right. Turnbull should be in the ALP, he's rich enough to afford to be a socialist.

[Psyber]

C'mon Psyber, you've got to be kidding putting up polls like that.

I did preface it by commenting on its small sample size, but I didn't think that excluded its being considered, given the level of the differential in the voting even at that early stage.
I have edited it to make it more clear to the reading challenged - I wouldn't want to mislead..

[shoe boy]

You have to love watching the day to day workings of the Liberal/National red necks. At least it is entertaining material espesh from Tony I was born under a rock Abbot now telling all you mums that ironing will cost u more You have to love it!!!! And babys are born in the cabbage patch and coloured people eat children and homosexuals are the devils children and and and and and.

Now who the **** voted this bloke in OHHHHHHHHHH thats right

[redandblack]

That misses the point, mate.

3392 is not a small sample, it's very large for a poll.

It's not valid because of the sampling method. ie: there is none except as a vehicle for people pushing an agenda.

To confirm that, a result of a political poll that is 80/20 has no integrity at all and I'm surprided you weren't aware of that.

Therefore your edit adds nothing.

[Psyber]

I swear I hadn't voted 2708 times..

But I saw the total number, while not small for that kind of poll I agree, as very small as a sample of the overall population - hence my reservation as stated.
However, I also thought it was unusual for a poll of this type to be so far from evenly divided once it had been up for a while and there had been more than a few hundred votes, as usually one side pushes the agenda first and then the opposing crowd notice and even it up.

I think all polls are basically push-polls, so much depends on how they are phrased.
My edit, of course, was a comment on your repeatedly displayed pattern of selective reading and emphasis as a method of diversion of focus.