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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:37 pm

What Jones said was his opinion, as distasteful as it was it was nothing more than an opinion. Again its been blown out of proportion.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:02 pm

I don't think it was even his opinion, just a throw away one-liner at a private function. I agree the media and Labor and every bloke and his dog has jumped on this as a priceless opportunity to belt Jones and the Liberal party up. Go back to 1986 when the space shuttle blew up. A big joke at the time was "Where do astronauts go for their holidays? Answer: "All over Florida." I don't recall any backlash over that.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:58 pm

Psyber wrote:
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southee wrote:Hypothetical - if jones had said this comment about another person or a political party .... Would we have the same uproar ?
Just putting it out there ...
I don't agree with what he said but I think as we lead to believe ... She is tough enough to ride it though .
Just labour keep going on about it like getting hit with a stone in a school yard !!!
I think so. Politicians are fair game and most would accept that as part of the job, but to bring someone's recently passed father into the discussion is beyond the pale.
Personally IDGAFF about Jones. He is in Sydney for a start, and I wouldn't listen to him even if I could. Besides if Jones said the sun was going to rise tomorrow I'd seek a second opinion.
I agree with you on this one LL.


My own dad passed in April and if someone had made a similiar crack I'd have been very offended. Say what you like about me but keep family out of it. It like a few years back when that silly old drunk Bob Ellis made a comment about Abbott and Costello's wives in "Goodbye Jerusalem". Irrelevant and offensive.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:35 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:I don't think it was even his opinion, just a throw away one-liner at a private function. I agree the media and Labor and every bloke and his dog has jumped on this as a priceless opportunity to belt Jones and the Liberal party up. Go back to 1986 when the space shuttle blew up. A big joke at the time was "Where do astronauts go for their holidays? Answer: "All over Florida." I don't recall any backlash over that.


Has nothing to do with the Liberal party, loads to do with poor taste. Oh, hang on.....


As for the shuttle "gags", I dont think the "gag" would have been directed at any of the departeds immediate family.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:45 pm

Booney wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:I don't think it was even his opinion, just a throw away one-liner at a private function. I agree the media and Labor and every bloke and his dog has jumped on this as a priceless opportunity to belt Jones and the Liberal party up. Go back to 1986 when the space shuttle blew up. A big joke at the time was "Where do astronauts go for their holidays? Answer: "All over Florida." I don't recall any backlash over that.


Has nothing to do with the Liberal party, loads to do with poor taste. Oh, hang on.....


As for the shuttle "gags", I dont think the "gag" would have been directed at any of the departeds immediate family.


Yeah, they would have seen the humour in the joke
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:58 pm

Ok any doubt that Gillard should go is being clearly demonstrated right now on SkyNews which is taking the Federal Labor Cabinet meeting live from Launceston. A year 12 female student just asked her a very simple question about the 2500 US troops being staged in Darwin which seems to wrankle the Chinese. Gillard, a lawyer by trade, filibustered for six or seven minutes without answering the question and just talked down to the girl. Faaarking pathetic. She hasn't got a genuine bone in her body.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby westozfalcon » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:47 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:I don't think it was even his opinion, just a throw away one-liner at a private function. I agree the media and Labor and every bloke and his dog has jumped on this as a priceless opportunity to belt Jones and the Liberal party up. Go back to 1986 when the space shuttle blew up. A big joke at the time was "Where do astronauts go for their holidays? Answer: "All over Florida." I don't recall any backlash over that.


Probably because noone actually knows who made the joke up.
If it was known, any backlash against the individual would be fully justified just as it is in the case of Jones's reprehensible comment.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Psyber » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:37 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
Psyber wrote: I agree with you on this one LL.
My own dad passed in April and if someone had made a similiar crack I'd have been very offended. Say what you like about me but keep family out of it. It like a few years back when that silly old drunk Bob Ellis made a comment about Abbott and Costello's wives in "Goodbye Jerusalem". Irrelevant and offensive.
Yes, I lost my sister, my mother, and my wife, in an 18 month period in 2007-8.
I'd have definitely been touchy about any "off" comments back then.
Julia is justified in having nothing more to do with him.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:46 pm

I bet Cory's got a smile back on his face this week..............
Just show's how shallow the media are.
Lurching from one sensation, milking it for us much as they can, to the next.

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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:00 pm

Steady on JimBob there are a lot of good people employed in the media. Some gooder than others but they all work hard to present news to the great unwashed. Milking a story is no different from your plumber being called in to replace a washer and ends installing a new tap. Or your vet ready to vaccinate your cat and up sells to a flea collar and a vitamin supplement. How about when you take your car to be serviced and the mechanic spruiks on about the need for new tyres, new plugs, new clutch blah blah? We would be stuffed without journalists/camera men and the media outfits who give them the space to publish their stuff.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:46 am

We need Rucci as the head of political desk to keep us really informed of what's going on
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Gozu » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:47 am

ALL advertising on the Alan Jones Breakfast Show has been suspended, following the fallout from Mr Jones's allegation that the Prime Minister's father "died of shame".

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/alan-jone ... 6489835280
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Psyber » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:19 am

Sky Pilot wrote:... Milking a story is no different from your plumber being called in to replace a washer and ends installing a new tap.
Or your vet ready to vaccinate your cat and up sells to a flea collar and a vitamin supplement.
How about when you take your car to be serviced and the mechanic spruiks on about the need for new tyres, new plugs, new clutch blah blah? ...
All behaviours I would like to see stamped out.
They are all about conning and ripping off the uninformed and trusting public, and morally reprehensible.
In some ways more so than a stupid, off the cuff, remark, because it is more deliberate and systematic.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:32 am

Psyber wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:... Milking a story is no different from your plumber being called in to replace a washer and ends installing a new tap.
Or your vet ready to vaccinate your cat and up sells to a flea collar and a vitamin supplement.
How about when you take your car to be serviced and the mechanic spruiks on about the need for new tyres, new plugs, new clutch blah blah? ...
All behaviours I would like to see stamped out.
They are all about conning and ripping off the uninformed and trusting public, and morally reprehensible.
In some ways more so than a stupid, off the cuff, remark, because it is more deliberate and systematic.

Perhaps we should have a dedicated thread to rip off's and how to avoid them, or great rip off's I have been caught by!
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Gozu » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:44 am

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard was today attacked by foul-mouthed critics who hijacked an online question and answer session to post abusive rants, including an offensive message about her recently deceased father.

The offensive comments arose during a live education discussion held this afternoon on the PM's official Facebook page.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/live-onli ... 6490891092
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby am Bays » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:53 pm

So it's Ok to quote Adelaidenow, now Gozu? You don't want to quote The Age article about Gillard's chair of Caucus resigning today arguably for one of two reasons: 1. Frustration at the lack of consideration of views out-side cabinet that are held by the Caucus a la Rudd, or 2. To concentrate on his marginal Sydney seat.

I wonder what the true reason is?

Also an interesting argument by Michelle Gratton on the Slipper Affair...
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Sky Pilot » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:29 pm

am Bays wrote:So it's Ok to quote Adelaidenow, now Gozu? You don't want to quote The Age article about Gillard's chair of Caucus resigning today arguably for one of two reasons: 1. Frustration at the lack of consideration of views out-side cabinet that are held by the Caucus a la Rudd, or 2. To concentrate on his marginal Sydney seat.

I wonder what the true reason is?

Also an interesting argument by Michelle Gratton on the Slipper Affair...

Not bad Bays...Melham is a half decent bloke who is completely disillusioned with the rabble that is known as the Caucus. He wants out and the real reasons will never be known.
Labor is on a "Slippery" slope and as the election draws closer we will see more of their members in marginal seats start to sweat under the stare of the blowtorch. Unfortunately Gillard's seat is a safe socialist enclave.
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Gozu » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:53 pm

am Bays wrote:So it's Ok to quote Adelaidenow, now Gozu? You don't want to quote The Age article about Gillard's chair of Caucus resigning today


Um, I posted this last night that guy resigned today?? Apologies for not being able to predict the future!
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:05 pm

Tony Abbott must agree with Alan Jones' original comments, judging by this altercation in parliament today:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/854 ... ame-abbott

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has referenced shock jock Alan Jones' controversial remarks about Julia Gillard's late father, saying the government "should already have died of shame".

Mr Abbott told parliament this afternoon that Ms Gillard should be ashamed of herself and her judgment for appointing Peter Slipper as Speaker.

"Should she rise in this place now to try and defend the Speaker, to try and say that she retains confidence in this Speaker, she will shame this parliament again," he said.

"And every day the prime minister stands in this parliament to defend this Speaker will be another day of shame for this parliament, another day of shame for a government which should already have died of shame."

The comments reference a speech Jones gave to a Sydney University Liberal function two weeks ago in which he said Ms Gillard's recently deceased father had "died of shame".

The prime minister appeared to fight back emotion as she offered a fierce response to Mr Abbott's comments.

"Can I indicate to the leader of the Opposition the government is not dying of shame.

"My father did not die of shame.

"What the leader of the opposition should be ashamed of is his performance in this parliament and the sexism he brings with it."
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Re: Gillard should go!

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:38 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Tony Abbott must agree with Alan Jones' original comments, judging by this altercation in parliament today:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/854 ... ame-abbott

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has referenced shock jock Alan Jones' controversial remarks about Julia Gillard's late father, saying the government "should already have died of shame".

Mr Abbott told parliament this afternoon that Ms Gillard should be ashamed of herself and her judgment for appointing Peter Slipper as Speaker.

"Should she rise in this place now to try and defend the Speaker, to try and say that she retains confidence in this Speaker, she will shame this parliament again," he said.

"And every day the prime minister stands in this parliament to defend this Speaker will be another day of shame for this parliament, another day of shame for a government which should already have died of shame."

The comments reference a speech Jones gave to a Sydney University Liberal function two weeks ago in which he said Ms Gillard's recently deceased father had "died of shame".

The prime minister appeared to fight back emotion as she offered a fierce response to Mr Abbott's comments.

"Can I indicate to the leader of the Opposition the government is not dying of shame.

"My father did not die of shame.

"What the leader of the opposition should be ashamed of is his performance in this parliament and the sexism he brings with it."


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