She's baaaaack!!!

[Rushby Hinds]

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[mal]

WHITE AUSTRALIAN POLICY works
He scored 126 of 100 balls today batting for Victoria.

[Dutchy]

Coorong - I regularly go to the Box Hill shopiing Centre as we stay with our friends that live a 5 min walk from there.

Yes I know what you mean, it does feel like your in the middle of Bejing BUT I dont have an issue with it, many of them are working their butts off in the food stalls etc and the asian restuarants around there are out of this world, becuase its is genuine...

Australia is a Multicultural society, live with it or leave...

great post Mal and (I cant believe Im sayin this) Power1

[am Bays]

This is what Coorong doesn't get. For 179 years (1788 to 1967) there was legal psychological MURDER going on. Generation after generation was being driven into the ground, and that is bound to get into the psych of families over those generations. And despite the constitution being changed almost 40 years ago - it's going to take a lot longer than that to repair the damage that has been done. We PUSHED the Aborigines into the dirt - and now Coorong expects them to pick themselves up? Hey, sunshine - they don't know how because we drummed it into them for 179 years that they weren't worth it! It has to take it's toll AND you can't just sweep it aside just like that. Recognise the damage, and do something about that first. And I don't mean chucking money at it either.

A treaty would be a good start - as well as the government having the guts to say "I'm sorry", on behalf of the ignorant governments that Australians voted for from 1901 to 1967 - particularly those at the time of the Stolen Generation and the White Australia Policy.

Been reading Green Left weekly again Phil???

I susppose a treaty is going appease your conscience as an anglo-saxon Autralian so you suddenly fell better about the past but in the meanwhile more kids keep sniffing, $32 000 will get wagered on a modified game of Snap each Thursday night at Ali Curung 80 K SE of Tennant Creek, Truency rates increase, women getting bashed for grog money, beer getting sold for $100 a can....

As a member of the stolen generation once told me you can't change history only shape it looking backwards ain't gonna solve nothing and no piece of paper to make the black arm-band proponates of Australain history feel better so they can sip their latte up Brunswick St with a feeling satisfied meanwhile the same problems that have seen with my own eyes since 1979 continue. if you want to do something constructive go and work up there christ those communities need all teh help they can get to encourage their young members to adopt their cultural way of life.....Anything that can be done to promote and encourage traditional Aboriginal lifestyle will go a long way to solving the problems I mentioned above.

My point is this a lot of Aboriginals in the remote part of the NT don't care about treaties and apologies they are more concerned about preserving their culture and health of their youth......

My personal view is a treaty and sorry mean two fifths of bugger all unless we take heed of the words of the Yothi Yindu song Mainstream (IMHO their best song) Balanda, Yongu; Yongu, balanda; This is Australia!!

[therisingblues]

I read what I could stomach of Coorong's racism and lack of understanding...etc.
This is what Coorong doesn't get. For 179 years (1788 to 1967) there was legal psychological MURDER going on. Generation after generation was being driven into the ground, and that is bound to get into the psych of families over those generations...etc.

Fair go Phil. He made a few comments, but I don't think what you are saying is really related to them. Coorong began by saying that he has spent 20 years of his life amongst the Aboriginal population, and it reads to me like he had close friendships with members of the communities. He also mentioned that the time period you are talking about was a sad era.
His comments were made in ignorance, and I don't think he deserves the reputation you are laying on him.
I am writing this because you are muddying the waters of this debate. This is an important issue, and needs to be addressed fairly. blindly berating people for what they "seemed" to have said doesn't advance a solution.

P.S. Mal and Tassie, nice work.

[RustyCage]

She has less than basic kingergarten school yard grasp on these things, i can't remember the quote so i wont post it, but a few years back she made some suggestion on how to fix the Australian economy, which was so completely wrong and unworkable that i was laughing for weeks.

Printing more money.

Anyone who says she is a racist obviously hasn't read any of her actual speeches, only what was "quoted" in the media. Hunt down her opening speech to parliament when she first got in how ever many years ago it was, and the first page or two, taken on face value sounds pretty bad, but as you read on, it actually makes sense, and doesn't go against any race or country as is widely thought.

Her trouble is that she's a terrible public speaker, and her speeches need work, not in content, but how they are worded as to avoid confusion.

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

Stand-up comedians & political cartoonists are rubbing their hands together now she's back in the spotlight!

[Coorong]

Borat...the answer is NO

[PhilG]

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[CENTURION]

On the other hand, where are the majority of deaths from AIDS? Where did it originate?

[Dutchy]

As a member of the stolen generation once told me you can't change history only shape it looking backwards ain't gonna solve nothing and no piece of paper to make the black arm-band proponates of Australain history feel better so they can sip their latte up Brunswick St with a feeling satisfied meanwhile

FFS whats wrong with sipping Latte's?????

[redandblack]

Yes, I suppose taking children away from their parents isn't such a big crime.

After all, we know better.

Ye gods....... are you serious.

It all depends on the circumstances though R&B.

Today, children are taken away from their parents if their parents are drug addicts, for example.
In the past, Aborigines were unfortunately viewed in a not much better light than this, so it made sense given the ignorance that prevailed throughout white society then, to take away the children.

So it seems to be just an unfortunate "crime" that seems to be mainly based on ignorance on what was best for these children.

btw, I found the wiki page on this quite illuminating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generation

Aren't you just agreeing with me then?

It may have 'made sense' out of ignorance then, but that makes it no less a crime now.

As that report says, it is regarded as a violation of human rights and so it is.

I agree with PhilG, but he's certainly enticed a few out of the woodwork, hasn't he.

[power01]

never a winner in this sort of debate.......it tends just to bring out the very best and very worst in people....and in many ways unless its constructive discussion seems to cause greater division.....sad but true.............

[therisingblues]

Phil, thanks for explaining that, I get where you are coming from. The history you are bringing up is relevant to the current situation, but I don't believe the answer to this is as easy as A or B. If ever we, as a country get around to finding a solution it is going to be a mix of A or B, or black and white ( no pun intended ). If I am right then the view of "get over it" may be part of whatever solves this, not the whole picture by a long stretch, but possibly part of it. Coorong was a bit rough in presenting his views, but in considering the problem as a whole, parts of what he has said has a place IMO. I think people like himself, Tassie and Wedgie who provide first hand, intimate experience are valuable.

[Jimmy]

After staying out four 4 pages of posts on this topic,
its easy to see why we have wars and vilification around the planet.
White[good cricketer] red, brown or black we are all human beings,
and should treat others and we would treat ourselves.

Any person whether of colour or creed should be liked if likeable
Any person whether of colour or creed should be disliked if dislikeable.

Pauline has views, but whether correct or incorrect she will incite racial
tensions and upset any equlibruim this country has forged over many generations.
History shows that some politicians with racist views have created destruction.

My views, I dont care what race or colour, if they upset me I react, if they
appease me I will acknowledge thier prescence with dignity and friendship.

Some races obviously raise my ire more than others.

I have been to over 60 countries around the planet, the thing Ive noticed is
what a country Australia is, the saying the 'lucky country' truer words have never been spoken.

Even tho i currently live overseas, i agree wholeheartedly. Australia and being Australian rocks!!!!!!!

[TroyGFC]

Bring back footy season!!!! :wink:

[PhilG]

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[Coorong]

Hold on a minute guys. Why dont you go back and read exactly what i wrote, rather than interperet it

Attitude to issues I have! Opinions I have, right the wrongs of past generation? not possible. neither party[b] in power will offer an apology as the doors of compensation open.

Read again what I have said that is racist to the Aboriginal population. And it aint there.

Racist about the migrants that come here...... yeah, just a bit.

But my opinions are based on the experience of living in 4 states of our country, aswell as travelling extensively[b] through what many would call the outback for years.

And no matter what any of you think, I have friends from all walks of life that i would rather call friends than many white people.

But I will not justify my attitude any further!

[topsywaldron]

Racist about the migrants that come here...... yeah, just a bit. But I will not justify my attitude any further!

You can't be a 'bit racist' Marion, it's like being a 'bit pregnant'.

I really, really hope our paths never cross.

You repulse me.

[Coorong]

Well if our paths do ever cross, I will be the one walking away.