by shoe boy » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:40 pm
by Bully » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:00 pm
shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
by Grahaml » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:09 pm
shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
by Q. » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:25 pm
by Gozu » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:25 pm
Grahaml wrote:Such a record that I can't think of another PM to have taken office with more prior success.
by Bully » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:46 pm
Gozu wrote:Grahaml wrote:Such a record that I can't think of another PM to have taken office with more prior success.
Please, ever heard of Paul Keating?
by Gozu » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:45 pm
Bully wrote:Gozu wrote:Grahaml wrote:Such a record that I can't think of another PM to have taken office with more prior success.
Please, ever heard of Paul Keating?
go get a job !
by shoe boy » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:40 am
Grahaml wrote:shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
by bennymacca » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:43 am
Grahaml wrote:shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
I find it incredibly sad people like you get to vote. I get you don't like Abbott and don't think he'll make a good PM, but he's not had a chance to either succeed of fail as yet. There was nothing Abbott could have done to prevent the fall out with Indonesia because, as surprising as it might be for you to hear, Indonesia has their own domestic politics to look after. They knew full well we'd be gathering intelligence on them as we know full well they would be doing to us. I bet there are 100 government agencies around the world already tapping into Abbott's phone and anyone else's who might be discussing something important. As for the Sri Lanka situation, you have no idea what he's doing or saying behind closed doors. If you're looking for some hollow words without meaning then I'm sorry that you're so shallow.
What I find amazing is that before he's managed to actually put in place new legislation and policy and have that take effect, people have decided he's a failure. Just like nobody can intelligently say with certainty they know he's going to be good, nobody can say he's going to be bad. What we do know is that in a long parliamentary career he's got an incredible record of success. Such a record that I can't think of another PM to have taken office with more prior success. That gives me some confidence that he should be a good PM, but right now, nobody knows. So please, take your prejudices and put them to the side before making a goose of yourself.
by shoe boy » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:40 am
by woodublieve12 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:16 am
Grahaml wrote:shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
I find it incredibly sad people like you get to vote. I get you don't like Abbott and don't think he'll make a good PM, but he's not had a chance to either succeed of fail as yet. There was nothing Abbott could have done to prevent the fall out with Indonesia because, as surprising as it might be for you to hear, Indonesia has their own domestic politics to look after. They knew full well we'd be gathering intelligence on them as we know full well they would be doing to us. I bet there are 100 government agencies around the world already tapping into Abbott's phone and anyone else's who might be discussing something important. As for the Sri Lanka situation, you have no idea what he's doing or saying behind closed doors. If you're looking for some hollow words without meaning then I'm sorry that you're so shallow.
What I find amazing is that before he's managed to actually put in place new legislation and policy and have that take effect, people have decided he's a failure. Just like nobody can intelligently say with certainty they know he's going to be good, nobody can say he's going to be bad. What we do know is that in a long parliamentary career he's got an incredible record of success. Such a record that I can't think of another PM to have taken office with more prior success. That gives me some confidence that he should be a good PM, but right now, nobody knows. So please, take your prejudices and put them to the side before making a goose of yourself.
by bulldogproud2 » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:23 am
Grahaml wrote:shoe boy wrote:Politics aside our intelligence gathering bureau has always operated independently from Liberal/National , Greens , Independent ,Labour , whoever governs but when you are in Government you must show diligence in dealing with our neighbours and in the past 6 days are so called leader has shown none. Firstly with the Tamils and now with Indonesia how hard is it for this bloke and the circus he leads to apologize, the same mob that couldn't apologize to our own indigenous people.
I find it incredibly sad people like you get to vote. I get you don't like Abbott and don't think he'll make a good PM, but he's not had a chance to either succeed of fail as yet. There was nothing Abbott could have done to prevent the fall out with Indonesia because, as surprising as it might be for you to hear, Indonesia has their own domestic politics to look after. They knew full well we'd be gathering intelligence on them as we know full well they would be doing to us. I bet there are 100 government agencies around the world already tapping into Abbott's phone and anyone else's who might be discussing something important. As for the Sri Lanka situation, you have no idea what he's doing or saying behind closed doors. If you're looking for some hollow words without meaning then I'm sorry that you're so shallow.
by bennymacca » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:33 am
bulldogproud2 wrote:First, he states that he supports Sri Lanka's human rights record, so much so that he provides them with two more naval ships. This is when a number of other world leaders are condemning (rightly) their record.
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:51 pm
by Bully » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:16 am
by Bully » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:19 am
by Gozu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:06 pm
by Squids » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:27 pm
by bennymacca » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:56 pm
Squids wrote:Who cares about some third world country, I certainly don't.
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