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Election rort?

Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:28 pm
by Rushby Hinds
NO I WONT DO IT But...
whats to stop me going to every booth in my electorate
"have u voted before today" "No"
"whats your name and address" Give them one of my mates (or a neigbour, doesn't matter) names and addresses.
At the end of the day my mate would be down as voting XX times
He could sign a stat dec to say that he had only signed once
They couldn't not count the votes as no one knows who the votes went to!
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:32 pm
by Dogwatcher
Hmmmmmm.....interesting.
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:09 pm
by Strawb
HMMMMM no bigger Rort than watching the Liberials ads I need a laugh after a hard day at work and then I watch their ads
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Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:45 pm
by BIG SEXY
strawb thats dumb. they are no worse than the ALP adds being run....or the greens or family first etc.
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Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:20 pm
by redden whites
crushinator wrote:strawb thats dumb. they are no worse than the ALP adds being run....or the greens or family first etc.
Like hell what about todays if you vote green flyer in the letterbox.Death taxes,higher capital gains,more expensive private health insurance,company tax rise,legalised heroin,New taxes(no details given),higher taxes(no details given) all will be instantly let through by a Rudd government if the greens hold the balance apparently as easy as that.Lets not forget the public brawls and riots caused by the union movement if labor win will happen as well apparently.

Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:52 pm
by Hondo
RH do you know how many times you would have to do that before it made one squillionth of a difference to the overall result?
Also the waste of time and cost of petrol $$
That's probably the answer to your hypothetical ....
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:26 pm
by Rushby Hinds
hondo71 wrote:RH do you know how many times you would have to do that before it made one squillionth of a difference to the overall result?
Also the waste of time and cost of petrol $$
That's probably the answer to your hypothetical ....
2004 Kingston vote
Richardson LIB 42,327 50.1 +1.4
Cox ALP 42,208 49.9 -1.4
119 votes...
716 polling booths on SA
Would have taken a Tarago with 6 people in it only 20 different booths last time.........
There are 10 booths in my and the surrounding suburbs!
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:44 am
by BIG SEXY
redden whites wrote:crushinator wrote:strawb thats dumb. they are no worse than the ALP adds being run....or the greens or family first etc.
Like hell what about todays if you vote green flyer in the letterbox.
Death taxes,higher capital gains,more expensive private health insurance,
company tax rise,legalised heroin,New taxes(no details given),higher taxes(no details given) all will be instantly let through by a Rudd government if the greens hold the balance apparently as easy as that.Lets not forget the public brawls and riots caused by the union movement if labor win will happen as well apparently.

the ones in bold i have heard it fromt he greens lips, thats what they want to do, and after seeing the unions throw so much money at this election to get labor in i wouldnt put it past labor to allow alot of these things through so they have power.
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:47 am
by Dogwatcher
Now, now Crushy, if your rationale is that because Unions are throwing money at the election on behalf of Labor they'll control a Rudd Government, what do you think about Big Business and Conservative farming organisations throwing money at getting Howard re-elected? Does that mean they'll be controlled by Big Business and Farmers?
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:13 am
by BIG SEXY
it does yes DW. i know who id prefer the country to be controlled by though. and i can tell you unions have spent alot more on this election than business, farmer groups and the coalition because they have alot more to lose.
my original point being however that its not just the coalition adds that reek of propoganda, its the entire political spectrum
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:14 am
by Dogwatcher
Your last statement's right.
Do the Unions really have a lot more to lose than Liberal? Not sure about that.
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:30 am
by BIG SEXY
in my opinion its a no brainer, unions have been pushed aside and they feel threatened as the most powerful group in australia. this has been going on for 11 odd years and they want back to easy access to the workforce.
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:32 am
by Dogwatcher
Unlike Big Business which has giggled with delight at the workplace changes through Howard's reign and are now scared that things are going to be wound back.
So, again, do the Unions have more to lose?
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:34 am
by Leaping Lindner
Bloody unions. What have they ever done for workers?
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:47 am
by BIG SEXY
yep, big business survived without AWA before last election, im sure they can again (albeit with less workers) can unions stay as strong for another 36 mths with a coalition govt?
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:48 am
by Dogwatcher
They've survived this long mate

They'll always have a place. They might be a bit more marginalised, but they'll always have a place.
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Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:00 pm
by BIG SEXY
100% agree they have a place, there are some very greedy people in this world who would sell their own grandma to get that extra $50...on both sides though, business and unions.
they have a place, just where that place is and how dominant it will be i guess is we will have to wait and see.
my argument about unions revolves alot around small business and how badly the unions can cripple them howard is a friend of small business and therefore has my support
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:08 pm
by Dogwatcher
Fair enough.
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:09 pm
by Hondo
Rushby Hinds wrote:hondo71 wrote:RH do you know how many times you would have to do that before it made one squillionth of a difference to the overall result?
Also the waste of time and cost of petrol $$
That's probably the answer to your hypothetical ....
2004 Kingston vote
Richardson LIB 42,327 50.1 +1.4
Cox ALP 42,208 49.9 -1.4
119 votes...
716 polling booths on SA
Would have taken a Tarago with 6 people in it only 20 different booths last time.........
There are 10 booths in my and the surrounding suburbs!
OK so we've established it would take a fair bit of time & effort from at least 6 people in this case but what about for less marginal seats you would need a lot more than 120 votes
I would assume if the number of votes counted exceeds the number of voters on the roll by a fair bit in a close race there would be a challenge by the loser, then a re-count and possibly (worst case scenario) - a by-election to do it again
Re: Election rort?

Posted:
Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:15 pm
by McAlmanac
hondo71 wrote:I would assume if the number of votes counted exceeds the number of voters on the roll by a fair bit in a close race there would be a challenge by the loser, then a re-count and possibly (worst case scenario) - a by-election to do it again
I'd say that's exactly what would happen.