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Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:41 pm
by Blacky
just thought i would say bye bye jonnie
about time

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:16 pm
by TroyGFC
:partyman: =D> :partyman: =D> :partyman: :-({|= yes I am happy!!!

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:40 am
by smac
More irony...

People who are unhappy with workplace laws that remove entitlements and job security from employees rejoicing at someone losing their job. :wink:

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:53 am
by Leaping Lindner
I'd say Karma myself.......but then again I don't think Howard will be struggling for a quid in his retirement.

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:15 pm
by GWW
smac wrote:More irony...

People who are unhappy with workplace laws that remove entitlements and job security from employees rejoicing at someone losing their job. :wink:


Not really irony, financially he wont be worse off in his retirement so doesn't compare to the average Joe Blow losing their job and struggling with their mortgage.

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 pm
by Sojourner
Would Kevin Rudd leave his safe Labor seat, for one that had the margin that Bennalong had? Not in a million years.....

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:27 pm
by smac
GWW wrote:
smac wrote:More irony...

People who are unhappy with workplace laws that remove entitlements and job security from employees rejoicing at someone losing their job. :wink:


Not really irony, financially he wont be worse off in his retirement so doesn't compare to the average Joe Blow losing their job and struggling with their mortgage.

Really? The Parliamentary pension is worth more than the top job in the land? :shock:

And you quoted the wink yet didn't understand it? :lol:

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:07 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Sojourner wrote:Would Kevin Rudd leave his safe Labor seat, for one that had the margin that Bennalong had? Not in a million years.....


First time Labor has won the seat since it was proclaimed in 1949.
Howard's margin decreased in the past two elections so he turned it into a marginal seat :wink:

http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal ... e/benn.htm

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:18 pm
by noone
Sojourner wrote:Would Kevin Rudd leave his safe Labor seat, for one that had the margin that Bennalong had? Not in a million years.....


2007 = 62.44
2004 = 58.6
2001 = 55.66%
1998 = 52.43%
1996 = 48.5

Above is the ALP two party preferred for Kevin Rudd's seat, notice that he ran in a marginal, lost (mind you the alp didn't exactly win many marginals in 1996), then ran again and one. Since then he has expanded his margin at every election. (I assume some of the margin was due to redistributions)

so yeah not in a million years, but about 6 years ago it was marginal.

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:40 pm
by am Bays
You'll probably see the inverse in Bennelong as the changing demographics and redistributions have made it less and less safe.

IIRC in 1998 or 2001 Howard first had to go to preferences, since then his margin has become tighter and tighter. it is not surprising to see him lose really once the ALP put a candidate with a bit of a profile.

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:25 pm
by Psyber
Perhaps it is time for both sides to stop bagging each other and start trying to make the change of government work?? :roll:

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:09 pm
by bayman
smac wrote:
GWW wrote:
smac wrote:More irony...

People who are unhappy with workplace laws that remove entitlements and job security from employees rejoicing at someone losing their job. :wink:


Not really irony, financially he wont be worse off in his retirement so doesn't compare to the average Joe Blow losing their job and struggling with their mortgage.

Really? The Parliamentary pension is worth more than the top job in the land? :shock:

And you quoted the wink yet didn't understand it? :lol:


some afl footballers earn more than what the pm is earning
:shock:

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:13 pm
by GWW
smac wrote:
GWW wrote:
smac wrote:More irony...

People who are unhappy with workplace laws that remove entitlements and job security from employees rejoicing at someone losing their job. :wink:


Not really irony, financially he wont be worse off in his retirement so doesn't compare to the average Joe Blow losing their job and struggling with their mortgage.

Really? The Parliamentary pension is worth more than the top job in the land? :shock:

And you quoted the wink yet didn't understand it? :lol:


He might not be getting exactly what he earned as PM, but gee its a little on the silly side to be comparing someone over 65 losing their job at an election, who'll now be getting a parliamentary pension for life plus free flights etc etc, to someone who's lost their job and is now struggling financially. No comparison at all really.

EDIT: yes i can see the wink but just wanted to do some Johnny bashing ;)

Re: Bye Bye Jonnie

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:30 am
by TroyGFC
Psyber wrote:Perhaps it is time for both sides to stop bagging each other and start trying to make the change of government work?? :roll:

That will never happen!!