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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Magellan » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:58 pm

"Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there...and finding it." - Oscar Wilde
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby DOC » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:27 pm

I won't speak ill of the dead.

Just hope that country finds stability and prospers.
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby stan » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:58 am

DOC wrote:I won't speak ill of the dead.

Just hope that country finds stability and prospers.
That's doubtful
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:06 pm

Labor's existential nightmare
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/nation ... 52obi?btis

To understand the dimensions of the Australian Labor Party’s post-election slump, there would have been no better place to be an observer than at a quiet family gathering held in Brisbane last month.

Far from ICAC revelations of Tammany Hall-style corruption at the NSW ALP, the gathering was held to mourn the passing of Graham Freudenberg, speech writer to ALP figures like former Labor prime ministers Gough Whitlam and Bob Hawke, former federal ALP leader Arthur Calwell, and former NSW Labor premiers Neville Wran and Bob Carr.

Freudenberg was an unusual figure. A late riser, his day began and ended in a cloud of smoke, and late-in-the-evening, liquid reinforcement. But Freudenberg was also incredibly well-read, had an almost unparalleled mastery of Australian, European and American politics; was a brilliant writer and author of three books; generous and considerate to a fault; and had a rare thespian turn of phrase.

According to Don Watson, a one-time speechwriter for former Labor prime minister Paul Keating, Graham Freudenberg was the ALP’s "great articulator, its poet", and belonged to "the national pantheon". He wrote Gough Whitlam’s iconic ‘It’s Time’ speech at the start of the 1972 campaign and Arthur Calwell’s withering 1965 parliamentary denunciation of Australia’s military participation in the Vietnam War.

Indeed, Freudenberg’s "belief in Labor was unbreakable", Watson wrote in the Monthly magazine. But it was sorely tested. In 1989 he was nominated as a Labor candidate for the NSW upper house, but the geniuses at NSW Labor head office in Sydney’s Sussex Street replaced him - believe it or not - with Eddie Obeid, now serving a five-year jail term for misconduct in office.


Graham Freudenberg helped write Gough Whitlam's famous 'It's Time' speech. Fairfax Media
Not to be outdone in the annals of political bastardry, last year the NSW ALP held a testimonial for Freudenberg. Writing in the Pearls and Irritations Blog, Eric Walsh, who was Gough Whitlam’s press secretary for three years in the `70s and a close friend and colleague of Freudenberg, reported it was a “high-ticket item” and most attending "believed they were contributing to Freudenberg’s retirement".

Pocketing the proceeds

However, Sussex Street pocketed the bulk of the proceeds, Freudenberg told Walsh later, “with little thought being given to Freudy’s wellbeing in retirement". Labor’s “pantheon” died in penury in July, and members of his family later held a quiet memorial function in Brisbane.

AFR Weekend asked NSW Labor where the money was directed but did not receive a response.


Anthony Albanese's Labor is adopting a “small target” profile over the next two years. AAP
The most recent chapter in the Sussex Street saga has been unveiled in extraordinary testimony over the past couple of weeks at ICAC (Independent Commission Against Corruption) hearings in Sydney. The nub of the matter is that political donations by property developers are banned in NSW.

It nevertheless emerged at the ICAC hearing that billionaire property developer Huang Xiangmo in 2015 handed a plastic Aldi shopping bag containing $100,000 in cash to the then general secretary of the NSW ALP, Jamie Clements. According to sworn testimony, Labor officials then covered up the source of the funds. They confabulated a yarn that the money inside the Aldi bag consisted of a range of small donations from people in Sydney’s Chinese community, many of whom worked in restaurants close to the ALP headquarters in Sussex Street.

One of these "donors", Leo Liao, who - the NSW ALP yarn went - had "contributed" $5000 to ALP coffers, was severely depressed by the ignominy he had brought down on his family’s honour through this lie. He committed suicide just prior to a scheduled appearance before an earlier ICAC hearing into the matter. According to a suicide note, Leo Liao decided to “leave this world” because he could not face the ignominy of family members being linked to a "criminal".

Three years later, Huang Xiangmo was revealed as an agent of influence of the Chinese Communist government in Beijing and banned from re-entering Australia. One of those Labor figures Huang Xiangmo "helped" along the way with personal donations, Labor Senator Sam Dastiyari, was forced to resign from his parliamentary position in disgrace.

Dastiyari was also – you guessed it – a former general secretary of the NSW ALP.

As these squalid details emerged in a dramatic ICAC testimony, blood was finally spilled at Sussex Street.

Kaila Murnain, NSW Labor’s general secretary, was suspended for her part in the scandal. As the first day of spring – traditionally a time of promise and renewal – arrived, Labor was in a world of pain. Its federal leader, Anthony Albanese, himself a one-time assistant secretary of the NSW ALP, acknowledged the whole mess was "diabolical".

Spivs and time servers

Coming after the shock federal election loss in May, this “diabolical” story suggests Australia’s oldest political party has been coarsened by a group of spivs, time servers and mendacious mediocrities. Their political playbook seems to be inspired by the immortal words of that 19th century New York Democratic Party machine - or "Tammany Hall" - figure, George Washington Plunkitt, who said "I seen my opportunities and I took them".

To be fair, it’s not all beer and skittles working out the role for a social democratic party in an era of Trump, Brexit, widespread populism, digital disruption, rising anti-immigrant sentiment, and the US-China trade war. Looking abroad, the ALP observes not so much a road map to the future as a cluster of confusing tracks full of political pot-holes and policy no-go areas.

In the past, the ALP has had a close relationship with its UK sister Labour Party. This reached its height in the `80s and `90s when the Hawke-Keating Labor governments effectively pioneered what UK Labour prime minister Tony Blair later rebadged "New Labour". Prime Minister Bob Hawke opened up the Australian economy by floating the Australian dollar and cutting tariffs, but he also ensured workers’ wages and conditions were protected in a period of rapid disruption through what was called the "social wage".

It was one year after the end of the 13-year Hawke-Keating era that UK Labour leader Tony Blair was elected on his moderate, partly Australian inspired, “New Labor” platform. As it transpired, Blair Labour was in office in Britain for a similar period to the 13-year tenure of its Australian counterpart. All the while Tony Blair maintained close contact with Australian Labor figures including former Oxford University chums like one-time federal Labor leader Kim Beazley, and former WA Labor premier Geoff Gallop.

But amid last week’s unprecedented scenes of chaos in the UK Parliament over the Brexit imbroglio, the British Labour Party has taken an extraordinary, radical, turn. Shedding its moderate, late 20th century New Labour clothing, it has developed a policy program under hard left leader Jeremy Corbyn that entails nothing less than the wholesale transformation of the British economy, and a massive redistribution of power and wealth.

The Corbynistas’ policy manifesto mandates that a future UK Labour government will seize 10 per cent of major companies’ shares from their owners and allocate them to the company’s workers; nationalise the railways, water supply system, the UK Mail and electricity distribution companies; impose much higher taxes on the wealthy; launch a massive government borrowing program to fund ambitious new public investments; and implement sweeping reform of tenants’ rights, including a vaguely defined "right" to buy out the property.

Four-day week

According to recent UK press reports, the Corbynistas are also developing plans to introduce a universal basic income, switch to a four-day working week, impose pay limits on senior company executives, notably those in the finance industry; mandate an end to City of London bonuses; and impose new property taxes on wealthy landlords and estate owners.

Indeed, as the new, but already beleaguered, UK Tory Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, plays his high stakes political poker game, his tactics seem to be partly predicated on a view that, in the final analysis, UK voters will decide the Corbyn plan is just too radical. Johnson hopes that instead a majority, or at least a plurality, of voters, will settle for the politically unedifying spectacle of a split, strife-torn UK Conservative Party which, like the ALP in Australia, is Britain’s oldest political party.

Elsewhere in Europe, the future of ALP-style social democracy is also in jeopardy. The French Socialist Party, which can trace its origins back to the 1789 French Revolution, suffered a terrible drubbing in the May, 2017, French presidential election, and has been relegated to near irrelevance in an era of French President Emmanuel Macron’s centrism, and the recent rioting on Paris’ streets by members of the so-called "gilets jaunes".

In Germany, the Social Democratic Party, or SPD, may be a member of centrist Chancellor Angela Merkel’s "Grand Coalition", but electorally it has been relegated to third or fourth position behind the Christian Democrats and the nativist, far right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party in recent state polls. Some commentators claim the AfD displays recidivist, neo-Nazi tendencies.

According to Stewart Jackson, a lecturer in Australian politics at Sydney University, Albanese's Labor is adopting a “small target” profile over the next two years. Maybe the ALP is hoping, like Charles Dickens’ Mr Micawber, that "something will turn up".

But Labor "has to stand for something", Jackson avers. Albanese knows this and a riding-high Liberal Prime Minister Scott Morrison knows political fortunes can turn on a proverbial five cent piece.

On the surface nothing has changed since Labor’s shock, albeit narrow, election loss - except that in the wake of the ICAC revelations about the ALP’s black hole in NSW, Morrison is now master of all he surveys. This is despite operating on a narrow parliamentary majority.

If "Freudy" was still around, he might be tempted to declare – holding a glass in one hand and a cigarette in another – that his beloved ALP has descended into an "existential nightmare".
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:10 pm

I met Dastyari once. Most unimpressive effwit I’ve ever met. Makes his doppelgänger Mr Bean look like a Nobel Prize winner.
His next address should be 1300 Anzac Parade, Malabar NSW 2036
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby DOC » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:03 pm

I read this article yesterday and I have just re read it twice. I can not work out the Brisbane family gathering reference and apart from a general bashing it is devoid of what makes a good article.

I would guess he wrote this three sheets to the wind. And, as if he has access to what was written in a suicide note by Leo Liao.

What editor would let this go to print?

His father would turn in his grave.
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby DOC » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:13 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:I met Dastyari once. Most unimpressive effwit I’ve ever met. Makes his doppelgänger Mr Bean look like a Nobel Prize winner.
His next address should be 1300 Anzac Parade, Malabar NSW 2036


I saw him last week turning up at the ICAC hearing on a bike. It looked like Bean. Then he spoke. Sounded like Bean.
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:23 pm

DOC wrote:I read this article yesterday and I have just re read it twice. I can not work out the Brisbane family gathering reference and apart from a general bashing it is devoid of what makes a good article.

I would guess he wrote this three sheets to the wind. And, as if he has access to what was written in a suicide note by Leo Liao.

What editor would let this go to print?

His father would turn in his grave.


The piece is about how corrupt NSW Labor is.
The reference to the Brisbane family gathering is the wake for Graham Freudenberg who faithfully served Labor. NSW Labor held a fundraiser for him because, basically, he was broke. They kept the money.
Leo Liao’s suicide notes were made public in an ICAC hearing.
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Magellan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:04 pm

World oil prices about to skyrocket courtesy of the Yemeni/irani (depending on whether you believe those claiming responsibility or Mike Pompeo) bombing of Saudi oil reserves?
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:53 pm

Magellan wrote:World oil prices about to skyrocket courtesy of the Yemeni/irani (depending on whether you believe those claiming responsibility or Mike Pompeo) bombing of Saudi oil reserves?


Lucky I filled up last week 8)
Will last me until the end of the year

Ziggy Stardust may have to seriously consider getting rid of her Nissan Pathfinder now although she says she cant afford an electric vehicle on her $207k base salary

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/zali-steggall-i-still-cant-afford-an-electric-car/news-story/0f42727361c8fa755dcc7ca235f4657d
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:54 am

Good to see we make such a difference to climate change

https://www.ft.com/content/1902158a-d99 ... 216ebe1f17
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Re: (Miscellaneous debris)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:34 pm

Richo on PMO tonight: “Tony Abbott is a much better bloke than most of his detractors”
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Postby Q. » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:25 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:Richo on PMO tonight: “Tony Abbott is a much better bloke than most of his detractors”


Was this said before or after he was visiting his good friend and convicted pedophile George Pell in jail?
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