Newspoll: Rudd hits a new low

[Jimmy_041]

Dennis Shanahan,
Political editor From: The Australian February 16, 2010 12:00AM

Kevin Rudd's personal voter appeal is at its lowest since he became Labor leader more than three years ago as support for Labor's emissions trading scheme slumps and the ALP's primary support sits at its lowest since Kim Beazley was opposition leader.

Labor's primary vote has dropped below 40 per cent for the first time since 2006 and the Coalition has managed to hold its primary vote at 40 per cent for a month for the first time since the 2007 election loss.

On the weekend after the Rudd government reintroduced its plan to cut greenhouse gas emissions by putting a market price on carbon, public support for the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme dropped to a new low after the fiasco of the UN's Copenhagen climate conference in December and Coalition opposition to an ETS.

In September last year, support for the CPRS was at 67 per cent but last weekend dropped to 57 per cent and those against the CPRS rose from 22 per cent in September 2009 to 34 per cent.

According to the latest Newspoll survey, conducted last weekend exclusively for The Australian, Labor's primary vote was 39 per cent -- the first time it has been below 40 per cent since Mr Rudd became ALP leader in 2006 -- and the Coalition's primary vote was 40 per cent.

Based on preference flows at the last election, Labor still holds an election-winning lead on Greens preferences of 53 per cent to the Coalition's 47 per cent -- almost exactly the position of the ALP and Coalition in November 2007 when John Howard lost the election and his seat.

While there was little real change in the relative position of the ALP and Coalition since the beginning of parliament -- with a three-point margin of error -- the breaking of new barriers of support is causing concern among some Labor MPs.

Despite a rise in dissatisfaction with Mr Rudd's performance, he is still clearly preferred as prime minister over Mr Abbott, 55 per cent to 27 per cent, and also outpolled his increasingly popular deputy, Julia Gillard.

When asked who was the better Labor leader, Mr Rudd or Ms Gillard, 57 per cent said Mr Rudd and 32 per cent said the Deputy Prime Minister.

But Ms Gillard, who appears on Friday-morning television with the Leader of the Opposition, outpolled Mr Abbott on the question of who would make the better prime minister by 49 per cent to 38 per cent.

When Mr Beazley was the Labor leader of the opposition in 2006, Mr Rudd and Ms Gillard jockeyed in the polling for top spot with Mr Beazley as the three split the public vote.

The crucial decision in mid-2006 for Mr Rudd and Ms Gillard to team up against Mr Beazley ensured their success as the Labor leadership team by Christmas that year.

In the past two weeks, the Rudd government has suffered blow after blow in parliament over mistakes in the national broadband network and the roofing insulation scheme. Dissatisfaction with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister has now risen 16 percentage points since September last year to 40 per cent and satisfaction has fallen 17 percentage points to 50 per cent.

After a sharp rise in dissatisfaction two weeks ago, Mr Abbott's personal support has improved with a rise in satisfaction from 41 per cent to 44 per cent, a new high for him as leader, and a fall in dissatisfaction from 39 per cent to 37 per cent.

Mr Abbott has been criticised for attacking Environment Minister Peter Garrett in the last week of parliament over the deaths of four workers installing roofing insulation under the Rudd government's program.

Mr Abbott told parliament a lack of regulation and safety supervision in the "rushed program" had contributed to the deaths.

Mr Rudd has continued to campaign for climate change action and accused Mr Abbott of "going too far" in his criticism of Mr Garrett, who faces opposition demands to resign.

The Prime Minister has also pushed the CPRS as central to Labor's re-election strategy and introduced the new ETS bill into parliament.

But the Newspoll survey has shown opposition is growing to the ETS, although Australians overwhelmingly want action on climate change.

Gee, the worm is turning................

[Jimmy_041]

The trends begin to run against Labor
Dennis Shanahan
The Australian February 16, 2010 12:00AM

THE latest Newspoll figures, so eagerly awaited around Parliament House and the Twitter world, have some interesting technical thresholds that will disturb some Labor MPs and encourage the new Abbott-led Coalition.

For instance: Labor's drop below the magic 40 per cent in primary vote and Kevin Rudd's worst personal performance since he became Labor leader.

But the real worry for the Labor Party -- remembering at all times that the ALP is hot favourite to win the next election and still in the same position on two-party preferred terms as it was at the last election -- is in the trends.

They are running against the Prime Minister, Labor and the government's emissions trading scheme. What's more, these are not just a consequence of "Abbott's honeymoon" as a new leader; they began a long time ago and were masked by Malcolm Turnbull's leadership and Coalition divisions.

Abbott has helped accelerate the problems for the government but it's not all his work.

The Prime Minister's satisfaction rating is at its lowest since he became Labor leader by a couple of points, and within the margin of error. However, the real problem is that since September his satisfaction rating has fallen from 67 per cent to 50 per cent and dissatisfaction has risen from 24 per cent to 40 per cent. They are real and dangerous trends.

They started independently of Abbott's Liberal leadership, although the small shift in Labor's primary vote is linked to Abbott's lifting of the Liberal Party's primary vote. The disenchantment with Rudd clearly began before Abbott's honeymoon, coinciding with public impatience with the ETS and the fiasco of the UN's climate change management.

Now that there is an opposition providing a contrast and a contest, the trends have set in and Labor needs to hold its nerve in the face of its first real political pressure.

[Jimmy_041]

[redandblack]

The worm is turning?

It says Labor increased its lead over the coalition

You should be used to Shanahan by now, Jimmy.

[Jimmy_041]

Well r&b, I think it is fair to use 1st December as a watershed date with Abbott's rise to lead the Liberal Party

I read the Poll that Labor had the greatest margin between the 2 parties on a two party preferred basis at 14 in late November.

Abbott then took over as Leader of the Opposition on 1st December (and he was derided by you and your ilk) - the lead now is 6

Satisfaction level for Abbott is 44 whilst Turnbull's final score was 36 - I will admit he is currently in a honeymoon period;

BUT

Whilst all of this was going on, Rudd's satisfaction level has dropped from 56 to 50 in the same period - those 6 moving to dissatisfaction. I do not think this has anything to do with Abbott's rise to the leadership, but more to the perception that the shine is beginning to come off Rudd

And the CPRS - well, support for that appears to be waning as well..................

[redandblack]

Jimmy, I think you should take off the rose-coloured glasses.

Firstly, in the history of opinion polls, a lead of 53-47 is a huge win. It's extremely rare to see results of 58 -42, etc, so I'm very happy with 53-47. That would give Rudd an increased majority at an election.

Secondly, Abbott has been in for 5 minutes. Latham was doing better at the same time.

Wait and see and don't get excited about opinion polls that show you being wiped out.

Any election these days can go any way.

[shoe boy]

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Jimmy,
Turning??? it would require a back flip! Your far right red neck mates will be seen for what they are!!

[Jimmy_041]

Jimmy, I think you should take off the rose-coloured glasses.

Firstly, in the history of opinion polls, a lead of 53-47 is a huge win. It's extremely rare to see results of 58 -42, etc, so I'm very happy with 53-47. That would give Rudd an increased majority at an election.

Secondly, Abbott has been in for 5 minutes. Latham was doing better at the same time.

Wait and see and don't get excited about opinion polls that show you being wiped out.

Any election these days can go any way.

Far from excited, but there were plenty on here who said the Liberals would be wiped out with Abbott at the helm

I am well aware how elections can be played out

There were people on here saying that Labor would romp it in in both SA and a Federal election and that the Liberal Party was screwed for a long time.

Maybe.........not so

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Anyone see Rudd on 7:30 Report tonight?

Kerry didn't hold back...

As usual, the robot that is our Prime Minister did his best to avoid answering the questions.

[southee]

Anyone see Rudd on 7:30 Report tonight?

Kerry didn't hold back...

As usual, the robot that is our Prime Minister did his best to avoid answering the questions.

A woeful acting performance by the PM...yet again!!!

[Jimmy_041]

Coalition draws level with Labor: poll
11:52 AEST Sun Feb 28 2010

Kevin Rudd says Labor is taking a whacking in the polls over insulation and that they deserve it.

A new poll shows the Rudd government's bungled home insulation program is costing it crucial support among NSW voters, who are turning to Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

The Sun-Herald/Taverner poll shows Labor is now level-pegging with the Coalition.

On a two-party preferred basis, both sides have 50 per cent of the vote - a drop of almost three percentage points on Labor's election-winning 52.7 per cent in 2007.

The poll of 609 NSW voters, conducted on Wednesday and Thursday nights, shows Mr Abbott has succeeded where his predecessors failed.

Mr Abbott has shored up his own voter base while convincing swinging, and some Labor, voters to listen to his message.

But Prime Minister Kevin Rudd remains the preferred choice for prime minister - 53 per cent say he is the better man for the top job while 40 per cent favour Mr Abbott.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has welcomed the poll.

"My understanding is we've got a long way to go and I'm not making too much of this poll," Mr Abbott told Network Ten on Sunday.

"I think that what it does indicate ... is that people are starting to figure out that the prime minister is all talk and no action and I think people are very disappointed with all the broken promises."

The poll comes after a disastrous run for the government, which has been under pressure over the bungled home insulation scheme.

But the opposition leader has also been forced to defend his own record in government.

Mr Abbott was a senior member of the coalition when Work Choices was introduced and health minister before the 2004 election when voters were told the Medicare safety net would not be changed but then was.

"I was overruled by my cabinet colleagues on the Medicare safety net. Sometimes ministers are overruled and that was my fate," he said.

Mr Abbott said he believed there were occasions when it was justifiable to "adjust" policy.

"I'm not saying that you can never, if circumstances change radically, adjust your policy.

"Of course we have to be realistic about this and I think that voters are intelligent enough to work out those sorts of circumstances."

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd concedes the government needs to improve on a number of policy fronts after a poll showed the coalition making up ground on Labor.

"We are taking a whacking in the polls now," Mr Rudd told ABC Television on Sunday.

"I'm sure we'll take an even bigger whacking in the period ahead and the bottom line is, I think we deserve it, both not just in terms of recent events but more broadly."

Mr Rudd said the government must get on with delivering on critical policy fronts such as health, education and action on climate change.

"We're proud of what we've done on the economy. We've stepped up to the plate, we've kept the wheels of the economy going.

"Where we have to improve and lift our game, where I need to lift my game, is in delivering in the key outstanding areas of reform in health and hospitals, in education and in getting on with the business of action on climate change as well," Mr Rudd said.

Now.....where did I put that Liberal Party is irrelevent comment from last year?

[dedja]

Don't get too excited yet Jimmy, Latham had similar results before imploding.

[Jimmy_041]

Not excited - just enjoy stupid remarks being proven just that

As I said at the time: Hardly irelevent when you have more seats in the Senate

I was prepared to give Rudd some time to do some good but he's beginning to look a lot like Rann - all talk and very little action.

I think he lost me when he did that fairy hand clap in front of Prince William - just what an English rugby player wants to see from an Australian leader

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiAiAQcrfeA

[dedja]

Rudd's a tosser, pure and simple. Consider him as the Labor trojan horse that got them into power.

His downfall will come from within ... I don't expect him to be the Prime Minister for the life of this Labour government.

The same fate awaits Abbott by the way. If Costello had a spine he would be making mince meat of Kevin'07 now.

[redandblack]

Jimmy, where do I start?

A poll proves nothing, especially one showing you level in NSW only, where the State Government is hopeless and on the nose, for goodness sake.

Rudd lost you when he joined the Labor Party, not when he was with Prince William, so don't pretend otherwise.

[cripple]

As soon as abbott says something really stupid, which he ultimately will, then watch the Coalition implode. Might not have to be Abbott making the dumb comments, sure Barnaby will feel free to join in.

[southee]

As soon as abbott says something really stupid, which he ultimately will, then watch the Coalition implode. Might not have to be Abbott making the dumb comments, sure Barnaby will feel free to join in.

Im sure comments with be nothing compared to the actions of the Labour party of late (ie. insultation stuff up etc..).

They are well on the nose......and coming down hard!!!

[redandblack]

The title of the thread says it all, southee.

"Rudd hits a new low"

His new low is still much higher than Abbott's new high.

Polls at this stage of the cycle mean nothing much.

[am Bays]

The title of the thread says it all, southee.

"Rudd hits a new low"

His new low is still much higher than Abbott's new high.

Polls at this stage of the cycle mean nothing much.

well to newspaper moguls and internet forums they mean a lot as it makes for good copy but yeah in a political outcomes sense they mean two fifths of bugger all....

[Jimmy_041]

Jimmy, where do I start?

A poll proves nothing, especially one showing you level in NSW only, where the State Government is hopeless and on the nose, for goodness sake.

Rudd lost you when he joined the Labor Party, not when he was with Prince William, so don't pretend otherwise.

Oh sorry r&b, I forgot that we know each other so well. All those times in the pub together getting to know each other.

You actually know f......all mate