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Was just having a look at the Centrebet odds for the federal election and was stunned to see that they have opened a market for "Gillard PM before the next election".

The current odds are:

YES $5.25
NO $1.11

Of course for her to be PM before the next election means she would need to take the leadership from Kevin Rudd. The odds for this are quite long but there must be some chance of it happening otherwise they wouldn't open a market for it and expose themselves to bets on Rudd remaining PM.

Being a prominent member of the Socialist Left faction of the ALP I serioulsy doubt the party would ever vote for her as leader........these days

At least she's some chance, unlike Julie Bishop

At least you'd give Julia Bishop half a chance and she doesn't speak like a robot

I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

Leaping Lindner wrote:Being a prominent member of the Socialist Left faction of the ALP I serioulsy doubt the party would ever vote for her as leader........these days

Exactly despite the fact she would me a better PM than Rudd the ALP would never let it happen.

Jimmy_041 wrote:At least you'd give Julia Bishop half a chance and she doesn't speak like a robot

but looks like one

Speaking of interesting odds, i heard today that an Irish bookie has dropped the odds of the Pope being forced to step aside, in the wake of some kiddy sex revelations relating to the church, from $11 to $3.

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

Leaping Lindner wrote:Being a prominent member of the Socialist Left faction of the ALP I serioulsy doubt the party would ever vote for her as leader........these days

He promised he wouldn't before he won the election, because there was public fear of Gillard becoming a left wing PM back then, and the ALP thought it might lose them support.

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

She is extremely unpopular due to the my schools fiasco. She will never lead, in fact she may be gone by the end of the year

Turbo wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

She is extremely unpopular due to the my schools fiasco. She will never lead, in fact she may be gone by the end of the year

Are you a teacher? Most people and particularly parents that i know, support the my schools

JohnnyG wrote:

Turbo wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

She is extremely unpopular due to the my schools fiasco. She will never lead, in fact she may be gone by the end of the year

Are you a teacher? Most people and particularly parents that i know, support the my schools

It creates league tables based on one test. It tells parents nothing. Even less when all teachers I hear in the media yesterday are going to boycott it nationally

Turbo wrote:

JohnnyG wrote:

Turbo wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think Julia Gillard is terrific. I can't see K-Rudd giving up the leadership though.

She is extremely unpopular due to the my schools fiasco. She will never lead, in fact she may be gone by the end of the year

Are you a teacher? Most people and particularly parents that i know, support the my schools

It creates league tables based on one test. It tells parents nothing. Even less when all teachers I hear in the media yesterday are going to boycott it nationally

If you are a teacher, then provide the my schools site with useful information INCLUDING the test so that it tells parents something. It's called accountability and I'm sure the entire education system could benefit from some.

So 1 test determines which school is successful and which isn't. Great. All its done is make schools play around with the results by, and this is true, giving students answers, exempting all NEP students, and I even know of one incident where a principal rubbed out answers and corrected them.
Accountability doesn't even come into it

Turbo wrote:So 1 test determines which school is successful and which isn't. Great. All its done is make schools play around with the results by, and this is true, giving students answers, exempting all NEP students, and I even know of one incident where a principal rubbed out answers and corrected them.
Accountability doesn't even come into it

I hope you are not an english teacher - I even used capitals for the key word.

Gillard was very impressive (speaks english, easy to understand AND answers questions in a straightforward way) on the 7.00PM project last night, Rudd is lucky she is perceived as left wing. I totally agree with Gillard's position on teachers, why do they fear this key performance indicator so much? Almost all other workers have their performance measured to some extent. Yeah to protect the students.......right

smac wrote:

Turbo wrote:So 1 test determines which school is successful and which isn't. Great. All its done is make schools play around with the results by, and this is true, giving students answers, exempting all NEP students, and I even know of one incident where a principal rubbed out answers and corrected them.
Accountability doesn't even come into it

I hope you are not an english teacher - I even used capitals for the key word.

Yep start with the picking on insignificant punctuation. I was having a decent argument of why Gillard and her main claim to fame are no good. Obviously you are not. If I wanted to be picky I would tell you that English needs a capital, but why bother.

mick wrote:Gillard was very impressive (speaks english, easy to understand AND answers questions in a straightforward way) on the 7.00PM project last night, Rudd is lucky she is perceived as left wing. I totally agree with Gillard's position on teachers, why do they fear this key performance indicator so much? Almost all other workers have their performance measured to some extent. Yeah to protect the students.......right

The My School website won't indicate anything other than how schools can mask the real results. Teachers are already subjected to extensive performance development a number of times per year, plus being under constant scrutiny from parents who all have their own agendas and expectations. The NAPLAN tests will not go ahead in most schools unless the government comes to an agreement as to the usage of results. It was in the news last night as the deadline expires today or tomorrow, then you will see the AEU's directive to its members.

mick wrote:Gillard was very impressive (speaks english, easy to understand AND answers questions in a straightforward way) on the 7.00PM project last night, Rudd is lucky she is perceived as left wing. I totally agree with Gillard's position on teachers, why do they fear this key performance indicator so much? Almost all other workers have their performance measured to some extent. Yeah to protect the students.......right

I've always been intrigued that her accent seems to get more broad Australian when she is speaking in public to a large audience than when she is in a small group situation like a TV interview.
It hints at a certain dishonesty - however, I agree she doesn't avoid directly answering questions as automatically as some.

I think teaching would be a less dysfunctional career if teachers were not forced to spent half their potential teaching time filling out forms for the education clerical bureaucracy, but on the other hand I am a supporter of externally administrated state wide examinations to independently assess both students knowledge and school performance, rather than internally manipulable "continuous assessment - especially at tertiary level.

Turbo wrote:

smac wrote:

Turbo wrote:So 1 test determines which school is successful and which isn't. Great. All its done is make schools play around with the results by, and this is true, giving students answers, exempting all NEP students, and I even know of one incident where a principal rubbed out answers and corrected them.
Accountability doesn't even come into it

I hope you are not an english teacher - I even used capitals for the key word.

Yep start with the picking on insignificant punctuation. I was having a decent argument of why Gillard and her main claim to fame are no good. Obviously you are not. If I wanted to be picky I would tell you that English needs a capital, but why bother.

No, I was commenting on your comprehension of my post not your grammar or punctuation. You are still dodging - the website needs this information to complement other information to provide parents with objective assesments of schools.