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I watched the C2 coverage last night and various mentions were made in relation to the seat of Hartley with Joe Scalzi contesting the seat after having lost it last time around to Gracie Portelsi, driving through the area and seeing his signs up I was a little surprised that they would put him up again as their candidate having been rejected already by the voters in the local area. The point Rob Lucas made was about his investment into the local area and the result of the margin having been reduced in his favour.

In one sense I see where he is coming from, yet if the local electorate have already rejected a particular candidate, is it really wise to continue to offer the same person as the candidate for the electorate the next time around?

Pat Trainor was the candidate for Florey, yet I am fairly certain he previously lost the area when he was with Family First. If people wanted him as the candidate then would they not have voted him in then?

Yet on the other hand, if Chloe Fox did lose her seat of Bright, I think that she might do well for the Labor party, yet perhaps in another seat?

Thoughts?

As I stated before election day, the preselection of Draper and Scalzi were extremely dumb decisions by the Liberals.

As it turns out, if the Libs won those 2 seats then we would have a hung parliament and anything could have happened.

It all depends on which candidates we are talkling about and there may be some situations where a 'recycled' candidate makes sense, but certaintly not a low achiever such as Scalzi or a tainted candidate like Draper.

watching the interview with scalzi after his loss... think he might be abit of a sore loser ...

The Draper move was beyond belief.Although I have not spoken to Matt Donovan for a couple of years ;having played cricket with him I imagine his appeal or desire to connect to some of the urban areas of his seat would have been non-existant.Joe Scalzi well

redden whites wrote:The Draper move was beyond belief.Although I have not spoken to Matt Donovan for a couple of years ;having played cricket with him I imagine his appeal or desire to connect to some of the urban areas of his seat would have been non-existant.Joe Scalzi well

how could anyone vote for Trish Draper?

dinglinga wrote:watching the interview with scalzi after his loss... think he might be abit of a sore loser ...

Disgraceful in his interview.. Cant stand the bloke

duncs wrote:

dinglinga wrote:watching the interview with scalzi after his loss... think he might be abit of a sore loser ...

Disgraceful in his interview.. Cant stand the bloke

It seems the good people of Hartley agree.

duncs wrote:

dinglinga wrote:watching the interview with scalzi after his loss... think he might be abit of a sore loser ...

Disgraceful in his interview.. Cant stand the bloke

Notice the ABC quickly ended the interview when he started rambling

Brucetiki wrote:

duncs wrote:

dinglinga wrote:watching the interview with scalzi after his loss... think he might be abit of a sore loser ...

Disgraceful in his interview.. Cant stand the bloke

Notice the ABC quickly ended the interview when he started rambling

I did hahaha. Very unsportsmanlike.

Sojourner wrote:Pat Trainor was the candidate for Florey, yet I am fairly certain he previously lost the area when he was with Family First. If people wanted him as the candidate then would they not have voted him in then?

Yet on the other hand, if Chloe Fox did lose her seat of Bright, I think that she might do well for the Labor party, yet perhaps in another seat?

He was the Liberal candidate in 2006, and got smashed. Very surprised he went up again, maybe the Libs thought they stood no chance in Florey and decided to just put him up again for the sake of it.

Chloe Fox was somewhat of a sucessful recycled candidate - failing to win the federal seat of Boothby in 2004 before winning Bright in 2006.

The best are the ones that fail in one seat, so try their luck elsewhere. I mentioned elsewhere Brenton Chomel was the Liberal candidate for Little Para in 2002 and 2006 before moving to Napier for 2010. Also, Mark Osterstock was the Liberal candidate in Wright in 2002. Failing that, he tried his luck in Newland in 2006 (and copped a hammering).

Labor are guilty of this as well - Gail Gago was the federal Labor candidate for Adelaide in 1996, then Makin in 1998 before hitting the state Legislative Council in 2002 (ousted candidates seem to end up in upper houses - Liberal Simon Birmingham failed to get the federal seat of Hindmarsh in 2004 then got into the senate in 2007).

IMO I'm very wary of recycled candidates, particlarly ones that lose their seats of cop a swing against them - there's often an ulterior motive as to why they try their luck elsewhere.

The only time recycled candidates are succesful is if they win a swing to them at the previous election, as it's something they can work on to try and improve again and be successful next time - Steve Georganis missed out as Labor candidate in Hindmarsh in 1998 and 2001 before getting in in 2004. Same for Tony Zappia in Makin - he nearly knocked out Trish Draper in 2004 before flogging Bob Day in 2007