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Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:45 am
by Dog_ger

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:12 am
by Media Park
only if there is two john winston howards...

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:58 am
by mick
If anyone in the last 40 years of Australian politics deserves a knighthood it's John Winston Howard (ducks) 8) I cetainly got a lot richer during his tenure unlike the previous 13 years where it was a constant stuggle to keep my head above water.

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:16 pm
by Media Park
Actually John Howard from All Saints would be a better option... ;)

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:41 pm
by Q.
*bites tongue*

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:50 pm
by Leaping Lindner
Australia doesn't have knightoods anymore. We stopped awarding them in 80s. Suck **** Howard you can never get the one thing you really want. :twisted:

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:42 pm
by fish
Quichey wrote:*bites tongue*

LOL me too!

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:28 pm
by redden whites
Vile, filthy little man

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:55 pm
by fish
(don't mention the war)

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:30 pm
by dedja
He should be knighted on this effort alone ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o8by05rtMY

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:37 pm
by Q.
dedja wrote:He should be knighted on this effort alone ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o8by05rtMY


:lol:

That one will never get old.

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:22 pm
by Gozu
"The myth of governmental competence"

“Competence” has proven to be a potent tool for conservatives here and elsewhere recently. Republicans have assailed Barack Obama as incompetent, particularly in the oleaginous wake of his handling of the BP oil spill. David Cameron hammered Gordon Brown, whose economic competence was once his principal claim to the Prime Ministership, over it in the lead-up to the UK election. And it was the central theme of Tony Abbott’s campaign against Labor that has him on the cusp of minority government.

The Howard Government is conventionally viewed as a competent government — fiscally lax in its last term, true, and it left us with a structural budget deficit, but it was solidly reformist in at least its first two terms.

But as I pointed out back in March, if the same standards that were applied to the Rudd Government by the Press Gallery in the context of the insulation saga had been applied to the Howard Government, a different perception might have emerged. There was a direct link between IR decisions by Howard Government ministers and the deaths of building workers. There was a direct link between the failure of the Howard Government to remedy the military justice system despite repeated warnings, and the deaths of ADF personnel. These deaths are far greater in number than those attributed to problems in the insulation program for which Peter Garrett was so unfairly pilloried.

But the Howard Government was repeatedly criticised for mismanagement on a much greater scale. The first tranche of the Telstra sale was badly underpriced, and it cost taxpayers $12b in 1997 dollars (the best part of $18b now). And the sale agency, the Office of Asset Sales and IT Outsourcing, didn’t even bother checking the invoices it got from high-priced sale consultants, and simply paid them, adding a huge premium to sale costs.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/03/kea ... ompetence/

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:30 pm
by The Apostle
Howard became Australia's second longest serving Prime Minister and during his term in office achieved nation-wide gun control legislation and significant reforms in industrial relations and taxation.

Only three weeks after Howard took office, a gunman murdered 35 people at Port Arthur, Tasmania. This prompted a controversial government decision to limit individuals' rights to gun ownership and to buy back guns from existing owners. Howard's federal government, however, secured the cooperation of the state and territory governments to pass uniform gun control legislation.

It really shows the lack of intelligence and level of ignorance of plenty of people out there that still parrot this sh!t (including amongst others, Peter Beattie and Rick Sarre)!!! At the time of Johnny getting the arse (2007), I know for a fact that there's was more registered guns in South Australia, in New South Wales and in Western Australia (and almost certainly every other state in this country) than at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre. In South Australia alone there's 63,000 gun owners and 370,000 licenced firearms. Work out the average per owner.

P.S. I wonder how many bikies and gangsters handed in their guns during the buy-back? :?

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:41 pm
by The Apostle
Exactly Gozu! Doesn't matter if it's the Liberals or Labor...they're equally sh!t!!!

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:16 am
by Psyber
No more knighthoods unless I can have an Earldom!
[It appeals to my Viking ancestry - it comes from "Jarl" the title of the leader of a raiding band.]

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:38 pm
by mick
I like Thane from anglo saxon times.

Re: Should there be a "Sir John Winston Howard"?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:05 am
by Psyber
mick wrote:I like Thane from anglo saxon times.
Yes, it has a nice ring, although the Thane, also "Thegn" under the Danelaw, was actually a local administrator appointed by the Jarl, and later by the big Jarls who called themselves Kings.
[At that stage you got to be King if you lead a bigger band of thugs than the other Jarls.]

It was an interesting era.
Angles and Saxons were northern Germanic tribes, closely related to the Gotlanders, and Jutlanders [later Jutes] of future Denmark.
Denmark, Norway and Sweden did not yet exist in Viking times - they were all competing tribes - but generally, those from the future Denmark area occupied Britain from the eastern side, those from future Norway went west to western Scotland, Ireland, and the future Lancashire region, and across to Greenland etc. while the remaining tribes from the future Sweden area raided inland and founded Riussia, and even ruled Antioch in the middle east for about 600 years.