by Bat Pad » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:33 pm
by Ronnie » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:02 pm
by mick » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:16 pm
by Gozu » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:01 pm
by Gozu » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:04 pm
by Sojourner » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:04 am
by Leaping Lindner » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:29 am
Sojourner wrote:Its a fair question to ask why you never hear any criticism from the Greens on the human rights abuses that occur in China from their left leaning communist party, ......
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by dedja » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:49 am
Bat Pad wrote:... And just a thought, imagine the reaction if you replaced Israel with Lebanon, Jews with Muslims and The Greens with the Coalition.
by Ronnie » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:49 am
Gozu wrote:The Greens are now examining possible legal action against writers who have potentially defamed members as anti-Semitic .(News Limited’s Andrew Bolt is one of the worst offenders.)
Jamie Parker revealed to New Matilda the extent of the hatred directed at him during the campaign due to the Greens BDS policy. He had countless letters sent to him calling him a Nazi and Jew hater. His car was vandalised and campaign signs spray-painted with swastikas. He received death threats and some abusers said they knew where he lived. "One letter said I wanted to turn Balmain power station into a gas chamber and the light rail would take people there", Parker tells me. "Lefty Jews told me that you can’t be surprised if extreme people do extreme things but they wouldn’t come out in public and condemn it." He was appalled.
http://newmatilda.com/2011/03/30/are-gr ... -hard-ball
by Magpiespower » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:09 am
Sojourner wrote:What is interesting is that a number of commentators believe that this issue cost the Greens their chance of winning a seat in their own right in NSW and possibly a second seat on preferences. Its likely that outcome has set the Greens back a long way in achieving that goal, all for something that their leadership claim is not actually their policy anyway, still as Bob Brown pointed out, the four others that voted for it were ALP members and they appear to have escaped any blame or scrutiny as opposed to the blowtorch that has been applied to the Greens over it.
by fish » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:52 pm
by Psyber » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:16 pm
True, but the difference does tend to blur as people get emotional about issues and both sides have been irrational and violent rather than just defensive.fish wrote:There is a big difference between being anti-Israel and being anti-semitic.
by Leaping Lindner » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:35 pm
Psyber wrote:True, but the difference does tend to blur as people get emotional about issues and both sides have been irrational and violent rather than just defensive.fish wrote:There is a big difference between being anti-Israel and being anti-semitic.
I do think encouraging European Jews to return to Israel post WWII was a mistake. The support for it seemed to have arisen out of western guilt about resisting taking them in the 1930s when Hitler offered the west the chance to do so.The Arab and Islamic peoples now occupying the region may be relatively new to the area compared to the original Jews, but having held the land a long time they see it as theirs.
That could have been predicted, as could the problem of "Christian" western forces occupying Afghanistan or Iraq, regardless of the debate about whether their actions we well intended or not.
by Magpiespower » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:43 am
by Sojourner » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:23 pm
Magpiespower wrote:Two Greens councillors voted against it...
by Magpiespower » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:51 pm
Sojourner wrote:Likely they are keen to be pre-selected for State / Federal seats and are happy to tow the party line accordingly. Everyone has their price for a yes or no vote, even members of the Greens.
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