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Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:53 am
by Sojourner
Sums up my thoughts on it pretty well, someone buy the car clubs of Oz some Carbon Credits quick! 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6P8CYOP93E

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:35 pm
by auto
You lost me at "Ford"

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:05 pm
by Bully
auto wrote:You lost me at "Ford"

:lol:

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:22 pm
by Sojourner
auto wrote:You lost me at "Ford"


First On Race Day?

Have HSV come up with anything to rival the FPV TVC or are they still working on it? 8)

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:13 pm
by Bully
yep, the Holden cruze rivals this car you talk about. Seen as Ford performance and the ford motor company will be out of business in the near future Holden doesnt need to produce anything better.

The HSV and commodore range is so far out of the FPV and falcon range the holden cruze is its equal ;)

any more questions ??

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:48 pm
by fish
This thread should be moved to "Other Sports"...

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:29 pm
by Ian
Bully wrote:
The HSV and commodore range is so far out of the FPV and falcon range the holden cruze is its equal ;)

any more questions ??


Yeh I've got one, WTF do you mean by that, it makes no sense 8-[

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:37 am
by auto
Sojourner wrote:
auto wrote:You lost me at "Ford"


First On Race Day?

Have HSV come up with anything to rival the FPV TVC or are they still working on it? 8)


Ford is so far behind Holden its not funny (but kinda is)...and whats this about a crabon tax?

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:39 am
by Sojourner
Is it still true that the Commodore is over 50% imported parts?

Any truth to the rumour that GM are building a rear wheel drive plant in China to build the Statesman? Guess the media here wont be reporting on that any time soon, its GMH we are talking about, not Mitsubishi I suppose!

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:26 am
by mick
Ford will be gone from Australia in 5 years, no export market and building precisely the wrong sort of car in a time of spiralling fuel prices and carbon taxes. Building toys(FPV TVC) for those challenged in the penis department won't save them :lol: GMH may survive a bit longer, building the Daewoo Cruze here will delay their demise for a bit.

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am
by Bully
Ian wrote:
Bully wrote:
The HSV and commodore range is so far out of the FPV and falcon range the holden cruze is its equal ;)

any more questions ??


Yeh I've got one, WTF do you mean by that, it makes no sense 8-[


??? makes no sense???

ok....the question was asked by another poster, FPV made some fantastic car and what was holdens match to it. I said the holden cruze was this so called fantastic FPV car match because ford would have to produce something like the bugatti veyron to match a HSV or a Commodore. The FPV range and the falcon ars soooo far behind HSV and commodore, Holden has the cruze to match Fords top of the range models.


Does that make sense now??

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am
by Ian
Sojourner wrote:Is it still true that the Commodore is over 50% imported parts?
not sure on the % but a lot of Commodore components are made in China

Sojourner wrote:Any truth to the rumour that GM are building a rear wheel drive plant in China to build the Statesman? Guess the media here wont be reporting on that any time soon, its GMH we are talking about, not Mitsubishi I suppose!
I heard that pre VE, haven't heard it since.

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:35 am
by Ian
Bully wrote:
Ian wrote:
Bully wrote:
The HSV and commodore range is so far out of the FPV and falcon range the holden cruze is its equal ;)

any more questions ??


Yeh I've got one, WTF do you mean by that, it makes no sense 8-[


??? makes no sense???

ok....the question was asked by another poster, FPV made some fantastic car and what was holdens match to it. I said the holden cruze was this so called fantastic FPV car match because ford would have to produce something like the bugatti veyron to match a HSV or a Commodore. The FPV range and the falcon ars soooo far behind HSV and commodore, Holden has the cruze to match Fords top of the range models.


Does that make sense now??


Needs punctuation and a balanced/educated view, wasn't so bad when I read it at a faster speed!

FWIW, I've driven the VE, Cruze and Captiva, as well as the VG Falcon, in order I'd pick the Falcon on space, comfort, power and towing capability, then the Cruze & Captiva equal depending on the application you want to use it for (both in Diesel are awesome on fuel), as for the Commodore, if the VE didn't have a Holden badge on it no one would buy it, I'd rather drive a VZ

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:38 am
by Bully
im just stirring there Ian. I hate both models but more so ford. ;)

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:38 am
by Ian
mick wrote:Ford will be gone from Australia in 5 years, no export market and building precisely the wrong sort of car in a time of spiralling fuel prices and carbon taxes. Building toys(FPV TVC) for those challenged in the penis department won't save them :lol: GMH may survive a bit longer, building the Daewoo Cruze here will delay their demise for a bit.


edited for accuracy
mick wrote:Manufacturing will be gone from Australia in 15 years.

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 8:09 am
by mick
Ian wrote:
mick wrote:Ford will be gone from Australia in 5 years, no export market and building precisely the wrong sort of car in a time of spiralling fuel prices and carbon taxes. Building toys(FPV TVC) for those challenged in the penis department won't save them :lol: GMH may survive a bit longer, building the Daewoo Cruze here will delay their demise for a bit.


edited for accuracy
mick wrote:Manufacturing will be gone from Australia in 15 years.



Agreed :lol:

Re: Ford and the Carbon Tax

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:30 am
by Interceptor
Large Ford dealership in Brisbane "collapses"

The company, which had a turnover of more than $100 million a year, was Ford Australia’s highest-selling retail dealer from 2004 to 2006.

Could be for a variety of reasons, but probably not a great sign for Ford in the long term.