Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

[stan]

Pyne you are a disgrace and I for one await for your press conference Wednesday arvo.

Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?

I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists

1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.

[mighty_tiger_79]

it is Politics afterall

[Look Good In Leather]

Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?

I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists

1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.

After their criticism of the previous government for "selling-out to the Greens", they cannot be seen to be weak by negotiating

[stan]

[quote="stan"]
Whoa man, bit heavy for Monday. Whats the poodle up to now?

I believe that Pyne is saying if he doesn't get his University reforms through the Parliament he is going to take the sledgehammer through the funding of Scientists

1700 Research positions would be axed. He's a ******* ferret, isn't he?

Nah hes a poodle.

Also he has in fact backed away from the comments I believe.

The issue again is that instead of working with be senate they are looking to use bully boy tactics only. They need to start trying to work with the senate.

After their criticism of the previous government for "selling-out to the Greens", they cannot be seen to be weak by negotiating[/quote]
True, but this is different as the previous government were owned by the greens due to the beed for there votes to make government. You need to work with the independent senators to get these items through. This government refuses to do that and looks to the bully tactics straight up. What I'm simply saying is I think they need to consider aanother way.

[GWW]

Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.

Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670

[Jimmy_041]

Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.

Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670

Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?

[bulldogproud2]

Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.

Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670

Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?

Definitely not if you compare it against GDP. Using the bottom graph, the gross debt which was inherited by the Abbott government was actually very low by Australian standards when compared against GDP. As stated in the article:

'The Australia Institute's Mr Richardson agreed. He told Fact Check: "All outgoing governments until about 40 years ago left outstanding government debt much larger as a share of GDP than the present government inherited."

[mighty_tiger_79]

Abbott was in fine form today

the guy is a lunatic
we would be far better with Clive in charge at this stage

[Jimmy_041]

Just highlights that the 'debt and deficit disaster' was always an outrageous lie.

It doesn't mean Labor didn't waste billions, but in GDP terms, Australia has and continues to be in a strong fiscal position relative to other major countries.

Noticed this article on the issue of Govt debt - makes some interesting points - http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-1 ... ce/6162670

Well, if I read it right, and excluded the world wars as extraordinary, it is the 2nd worst position after Keating, isn't it?

Definitely not if you compare it against GDP. Using the bottom graph, the gross debt which was inherited by the Abbott government was actually very low by Australian standards when compared against GDP. As stated in the article:

'The Australia Institute's Mr Richardson agreed. He told Fact Check: "All outgoing governments until about 40 years ago left outstanding government debt much larger as a share of GDP than the present government inherited."

FFS, that was 1975. Even I was still at school

[bulldogproud2]

However, it does mean that Tony Abbott was handed a debt/GDP position which was one of the best in Australia's history. Only Howard and Fraser have left lower Debt/GDP positions than what Abbott was handed.

Cheers

[Jimmy_041]

Not sure we're looking at the same table because I see the second worst in 40 odd years
Only Keating (the self professed economic miracle man) outdid it
Interesting reading Steven Koukoulas who says the debt is not a problem, but then slams the Govt for an increase in debt
I'm not sure what to make of him

[bulldogproud2]

Not sure we're looking at the same table because I see the second worst in 40 odd years
Only Keating (the self professed economic miracle man) outdid it
Interesting reading Steven Koukoulas who says the debt is not a problem, but then slams the Govt for an increase in debt
I'm not sure what to make of him

I am going on the Australian Institute's Mr. Richardson's comment, as well as the final graph. Yes, the second worst in 40 odd years, but better than any prior to that. We have only had four governments in the past forty years, making it the second best ever.

Cheers

[stan]

Looking forward to the next budget now. I think most people are. It will be interesting to see when the uni reforms come back as well.

Im not sure threatening an election is going to help out here.

[stan]

This will be qn interesting budget. The IMF have predicted some tough times ahead for the glonal economy. With China starting to slow and there growth looking at dipping under the 7% mark it seems to be the catalyst now for a drop in iron ore prices. This will hurt our mining sector. This will really hurt.

Basically we nees to reduce the government's expenditure without killing off our own economic growth. Good luck with that!

[GWW]

Didn't Abbott say they were going to stop the "waste" of the previous ALP Govt?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/it-costs-b ... ers-trial/

Why isn't Andrews a back-bencher now, after failing so badly? Hopefully Defence doesn't suffer a similar fate.

[bennymacca]

andrews also couldn't name the leader of IS, the person that the US have just put a 10 million bounty on, and who andrews just sent 300 troops to go and fight

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/k ... te/6392948

[Gozu]

Cracked up laughing watching Mad As Hell last week when Micallef with a pic of Andrews behind him said "Here is a picture of Kevin Andrews taking human form".

[mighty_tiger_79]

Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them

[Q.]

Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them

Sounds like he's been hoodwinked.

[bennymacca]

Dr Karl is backing away from his Intergenerational Report videos.

I just assumed that he voted Libs when I heard them

so did i tbh, which surprised me. sounds like he just had too much trust in the current government...