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Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:48 pm
by Sojourner
Saw this on the news the other night and think it has massive ramifications for industry in Australia - the workers are asking for 3.6% payrise, which will simply level peg them with inflation and continue their wages at the same rate indexed to inflation.

Anyone who recieves less than 3.6% will actually go backwards in their wage. Yet to complicate matters the cost of living going up is happening in a time of considerably reduced consumer spending due to the "two speed economy".

Time for the ALP who claim to represent manufacturing workers to step up to the plate and tell us what they are going to do to ensure that no one sees their weekly wage drop back to less than the inflationary increase.

Door maker slammed over worker lock out
Posted September 08, 2011 08:53:39

A multinational door manufacturer has locked out 200 Australian workers in four states over a wages dispute.

The three-day lockout by United States-based company Jeld-Wen began at midnight after negotiations soured.

Jeld-Wen makes doors at six sites in New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia under trade names including Airlite, Regency and Stegbar.

The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union says negotiations are deadlocked because the enterprise agreement on offer would cut wages in real terms.

Union spokesman Phil Davies says the lockout is an attempt to starve workers into submission.

He says the tactic is reminiscent of the 1998 waterfront dispute, and makes industrial action more not less likely.

"It could well do. We haven't seen a lockout in our industry and it's the first lockout since I was at Port Botany some years ago under the Howard regime, so it could escalate," Mr Davies said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-08/d ... ut/2876202

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:59 pm
by Sky Pilot
I think everyone would agree that workers should be paid appropriate wages but happens now if Stegbar says stuff it and slips over to China to make the windows? Are all those employess better off earning what ever it is they are getting right now or being forced onto to the dole queue when and if the company pulls the pin in Australia?

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:25 pm
by Gozu
Sky Pilot wrote:I think everyone would agree that workers should be paid appropriate wages but happens now if Stegbar says stuff it and slips over to China to make the windows? Are all those employess better off earning what ever it is they are getting right now or being forced onto to the dole queue when and if the company pulls the pin in Australia?


i.e. the minimum wage is evil. You sound like something that's crawled out of the IPA or HR Nicholls Society, SP.

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:27 pm
by straight talker
Gozu wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:I think everyone would agree that workers should be paid appropriate wages but happens now if Stegbar says stuff it and slips over to China to make the windows? Are all those employess better off earning what ever it is they are getting right now or being forced onto to the dole queue when and if the company pulls the pin in Australia?


i.e. the minimum wage is evil. You sound like something that's crawled out of the IPA or HR Nicholls Society, SP.

have no fear gillard and her kronies will fix it all. workers have never had it so good under labor!!??? :lol: :lol: Fair work australia is bloody great they will get in there too.. bring back work choices.. oh airport staff also on strike... wow things are going great. :roll:

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:35 pm
by Gozu
straight talker wrote:have no fear gillard and her kronies will fix it all. workers have never had it so good under labor!!??? :lol: :lol: Fair work australia is bloody great they will get in there too.. bring back work choices.. oh airport staff also on strike... wow things are going great. :roll:


I try to refrain from responding to your rubbish but you might be interested to know that productivity went down under WorkChoices.

Guess what champ Wayne Swan looks set to be named the Euromoney Finance Minister of the year.

http://www.thepowerindex.com.au/rising- ... 0110918420

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:44 pm
by straight talker
well well lets have a party! goes to show how bad the rest of the people are that a bloke that is in charge of a country that is 90 odd billion in debt and borrowing millions and millions every day gets an award! :lol: :lol:

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:50 pm
by straight talker
Gozu wrote:
straight talker wrote:have no fear gillard and her kronies will fix it all. workers have never had it so good under labor!!??? :lol: :lol: Fair work australia is bloody great they will get in there too.. bring back work choices.. oh airport staff also on strike... wow things are going great. :roll:


I try to refrain from responding to your rubbish but you might be interested to know that productivity went down under WorkChoices.

Guess what champ Wayne Swan looks set to be named the Euromoney Finance Minister of the year.

http://www.thepowerindex.com.au/rising- ... 0110918420

how about peoples wages and rights??

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:54 pm
by Sojourner
Sky Pilot wrote:I think everyone would agree that workers should be paid appropriate wages but happens now if Stegbar says stuff it and slips over to China to make the windows? Are all those employess better off earning what ever it is they are getting right now or being forced onto to the dole queue when and if the company pulls the pin in Australia?


What happens when that happens to peoples wages year in and year out and we all get to work for $8 an hour? At what point to people say no?

Here comes the socialist in me, but one other option which I feel should have been taken with Pacific Brands - King Gee / Yakka is to nationalise the company and run it for the benefit of the workers not for some capatalist pig. ;)

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:00 pm
by Mad Mat
I try to refrain from responding to your rubbish but you might be interested to know that productivity went down under WorkChoices.

Guess what champ Wayne Swan looks set to be named the Euromoney Finance Minister of the year.
http://www.thepowerindex.com.au/rising- ... 0110918420[/quote]

I wonder if his hand will be shaking when he receives the prize? He's had a 'Steven Bradbury'. :lol: The thing I find ironic in all the politcial debate is when the Coalition were in power the ALP was constantly reminding us that the only reason the economy was strong was due to the mining boom and that the Coalition should be doing more with the proceeds etc etc. And with the ALP in power it was the mining boom which cushioned the blow from the GFC and continues to prop up the economy. What is going to happen when the mining boom ends? I shudder to think.

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:19 am
by Gozu
Mad Mat wrote:I wonder if his hand will be shaking when he receives the prize? He's had a 'Steven Bradbury'. :lol: The thing I find ironic in all the politcial debate is when the Coalition were in power the ALP was constantly reminding us that the only reason the economy was strong was due to the mining boom and that the Coalition should be doing more with the proceeds etc etc. And with the ALP in power it was the mining boom which cushioned the blow from the GFC and continues to prop up the economy. What is going to happen when the mining boom ends? I shudder to think.


Exactly. Although that is probably 50-100 years away that is a good advertisement for the mining tax.

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:10 pm
by straight talker
lets just hope JULIAR and her kronies get something correct very soon or the liberals wont be able to pull our country out of this hole there digging for us as it will be way too deep. :roll:

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:14 pm
by Sky Pilot
straight talker wrote:lets just hope JULIAR and her kronies get something correct very soon or the liberals wont be able to pull our country out of this hole there digging for us as it will be way too deep. :roll:

Mate, mate, mate we have Bob Brown to pull us out of the moral and financial abyss we find ourselves in. Keep the faith - Julia and Swanny, the turdish Albanese and of course Midnight Oil have learned the Green genuflect precisely. We'll be right cobber

Re: Stegbar Workers Locked Out

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:07 pm
by straight talker
dont forget the happy little vegemite prime minister ooooppppsss i meant foreign minister. :lol: :lol: