by Sojourner » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:42 pm
by Gozu » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:45 pm
by fish » Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:58 pm
by Sky Pilot » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:21 pm
by GWW » Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:18 pm
by Sojourner » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:55 pm
Gozu wrote:I don't know if it constiutes being forced to step down or not but she should.
by southee » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:05 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:Plenty of people don't do tax returns for a variety of reasons. The tax pack is a nightmare and many punters are just too tight-arsed to hire an accountant. If it was simpler more people would file on time. I really don't blame her or think it is a crime - just a bit slack and isn't that what we Aussies are all about anyway? Leave her alone and let her do her job.
by DOC » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:25 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:Plenty of people don't do tax returns for a variety of reasons. The tax pack is a nightmare and many punters are just too tight-arsed to hire an accountant. If it was simpler more people would file on time. I really don't blame her or think it is a crime - just a bit slack and isn't that what we Aussies are all about anyway? Leave her alone and let her do her job.
by dedja » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:58 pm
Sky Pilot wrote:Plenty of people don't do tax returns for a variety of reasons. The tax pack is a nightmare and many punters are just too tight-arsed to hire an accountant. If it was simpler more people would file on time. I really don't blame her or think it is a crime - just a bit slack and isn't that what we Aussies are all about anyway? Leave her alone and let her do her job.
by Gozu » Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:38 am
Sojourner wrote:Gozu wrote:I don't know if it constiutes being forced to step down or not but she should.
Completely agree and think that Fisher should also leave at the same time. It is unacceptable behaviour from any politician and if it were a Liberal MLC I have no doubt the Greens would have no problem in calling for their head for the same reason.
by fish » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:15 am
by smac » Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:35 am
by Sojourner » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:14 pm
fish wrote:What about the Liberal dude who, according to the article in this post, used three taxpayer funded cars (with drivers) to ferry his family to swish restaurants?
by Psyber » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:34 pm
During the time when there was illness in my family and we were shuttling back and forth between Melbourne and Adelaide my record keeping fell apart and I didn't lodge a tax return for two years.dedja wrote:Spot on ... paying tax is voluntary, just do it only if you feel like it ...Sky Pilot wrote:Plenty of people don't do tax returns for a variety of reasons. The tax pack is a nightmare and many punters are just too tight-arsed to hire an accountant. If it was simpler more people would file on time. I really don't blame her or think it is a crime - just a bit slack and isn't that what we Aussies are all about anyway? Leave her alone and let her do her job.
by Sky Pilot » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:22 pm
fish wrote:What about the Liberal dude who, according to the article in this post, used three taxpayer funded cars (with drivers) to ferry his family to swish restaurants?
by Dogwatcher » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:19 pm
by Psyber » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:38 pm
You would have thought one would get over any purely reactive states well enough inside 10 years to get their returns in, especially if, as you say, she could do all the rest.Dogwatcher wrote:This woman claims all a divorce and depression etc for not being able to file a tax return.
But had enough ability to become a prominent player in a political party and run a campaign to get elected.
Get her out.
I've had enough of people like her and Fisher claiming a mental illness such as 'depression' or 'anxiety' for their poor personal decision making (and they're not the only ones who have done it). It does no good for the cause of those who are really suffering.
by Sojourner » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:56 pm
Psyber wrote:You would have thought one would get over any purely reactive states well enough inside 10 years to get their returns in, especially if, as you say, she could do all the rest.Dogwatcher wrote:This woman claims all a divorce and depression etc for not being able to file a tax return.
But had enough ability to become a prominent player in a political party and run a campaign to get elected.
Get her out.
I've had enough of people like her and Fisher claiming a mental illness such as 'depression' or 'anxiety' for their poor personal decision making (and they're not the only ones who have done it). It does no good for the cause of those who are really suffering.
Fisher, I'd reserve judgement on as what I've heard suggests she may have a chronic genetic disorder that wasn't entirely stable, and was further destabilised during a change in medication to try to get better control in the longer term.
That happens in these conditions and impulsive and/or confused behaviour can occur.
We'll find out in time.
by GWW » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:03 pm
by tipper » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:09 pm
Sojourner wrote:Psyber wrote:You would have thought one would get over any purely reactive states well enough inside 10 years to get their returns in, especially if, as you say, she could do all the rest.Dogwatcher wrote:This woman claims all a divorce and depression etc for not being able to file a tax return.
But had enough ability to become a prominent player in a political party and run a campaign to get elected.
Get her out.
I've had enough of people like her and Fisher claiming a mental illness such as 'depression' or 'anxiety' for their poor personal decision making (and they're not the only ones who have done it). It does no good for the cause of those who are really suffering.
Fisher, I'd reserve judgement on as what I've heard suggests she may have a chronic genetic disorder that wasn't entirely stable, and was further destabilised during a change in medication to try to get better control in the longer term.
That happens in these conditions and impulsive and/or confused behaviour can occur.
We'll find out in time.
In both cases its not about the illness or the claimed stress or whatever, its about whether or not they both have the capacity to do the job to the standard required and its no from me on both counts.
I have nothing against anyone that has panic attacks or suffers from Anxiety disorders, maybe Psyber might like to comment on this but I have been told that many Psyciatrists often feel that Part Time work and perhaps a Part Pension is the way to go. Having a job at least gives people a daily routine and if people struggle to cope then by cutting back the workload and pressure has been found to be something that gives people a good outcome and is a step taken on the path to recovery. After listening to the symptoms described and her own testimony I dont believe that she has the capacity for the 60hr week job and all the pressure and stress that goes with it and she would likely be better off on a Disability Pension or similar scenario. Franks on the other hand deliberatley decieved the Government and the People and clearly had the capacity to run for office and keep up with all the various tasks required irrespective of her personal circumstances and chose to do that with the ATO in a case that is clearly premeditated. She should be stood down as a direct result of misconduct IMO.
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