Lib Senator guilty and not guilty

[redandblack]

LIberal Senator Mary-Jo Fisher has been found not guilty of shoplifting, but guilty of assault.

[Sojourner]

Will be interesting to read the transcripts yet on the surface it appears that the court have given people the green light to steal a trolley load of groceries providing that your intention is to return to the store and pay for them later?

[Psyber]

Will be interesting to read the transcripts yet on the surface it appears that the court have given people the green light to steal a trolley load of groceries providing that your intention is to return to the store and pay for them later?

Or, more likely, that she was mildly hypomanic and distracted at the time so an intent to steal was not there, but not so much so she was not aware assault was wrong at law, and that action did require her having formed an intent..
As you say the transcript will be interesting.

[OnSong]

Wouldn't it be on the net?

[Psyber]

Wouldn't it be on the net?

Eventually...
In the state equivalent of this SA one: http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/index.html

[OnSong]

Wouldn't it be on the net?

Eventually...
In the state equivalent of this SA one: http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/sent_remarks/index.html

I've read a few transcripts on there I wish I didn't, particularly in regards to child abuse. A little graphic but a reality check all the same.

[Psyber]

Here is a summary on Yahoo7: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/lat ... f-assault/

[Sojourner]

No conviction recorded meaning that she simply gets away with the assualt and continues to be a politician...

Still I dont think the ALP will mind, its proven over and over that policial parties whose members commit crimes and then get away with it dont usually get elected or are thrown out of office as the ALP were in Perth. Will be interesting to see how Isobel Redman reacts and if she attempts to put some type of positve spin on it. I would suggest that people may decide that they dont much like the ALP but dont want to vote for someone who can get away with an assualt possibly being percieved to be because of postion and monetry access to the best legal people and so on.

[Gozu]

It stinks she can get away with stealing nearly $100 of food and assualting the security guard a number of times but was expected.

Any regular Joe Blow tries that on and they'd get the book thrown at them.

[scoob]

It stinks she can get away with stealing nearly $100 of food and assualting the security guard a number of times but was expected.

Any regular Joe Blow tries that on and they'd get the book thrown at them.

It does stink... A complete different set of rules for all of them... misuse $100K on prostitutes and you don't get the sack - that would obviously be the case for Joe Blow

[Jimmy_041]

No conviction recorded meaning that she simply gets away with the assualt and continues to be a politician...

Still I dont think the ALP will mind, its proven over and over that policial parties whose members commit crimes and then get away with it dont usually get elected or are thrown out of office as the ALP were in Perth. Will be interesting to see how Isobel Redman reacts and if she attempts to put some type of positve spin on it. I would suggest that people may decide that they dont much like the ALP but dont want to vote for someone who can get away with an assualt possibly being percieved to be because of postion and monetry access to the best legal people and so on.

LOL She's a Federal senator - nothing to do with Isobel Redman

If she was a local ALP member, the 2500 Govt media minders would probably say she was taking the food to under privileged people and was assaulted by a liberal party stooge dressed up as a security guard

[Gozu]

It stinks she can get away with stealing nearly $100 of food and assualting the security guard a number of times but was expected.

Any regular Joe Blow tries that on and they'd get the book thrown at them.

It does stink... A complete different set of rules for all of them... misuse $100K on prostitutes and you don't get the sack - that would obviously be the case for Joe Blow

What illegalities did Craig Thomson commit again?

[dedja]

What a waste of time for $90 odd ... why didn't the bitch just pay it back and save a few squillion on a court case.

The legal eagles win again.

[woodublieve12]

guilty...

[best on hill]

i might try pinching $100 dollars worth of grocery's tomorrow at the local IGA, then go apeshit a who ever tries to stop me and see if i get the same out come

i think not, mind you i wouldnt get the same publicity as this case.

[scoob]

It stinks she can get away with stealing nearly $100 of food and assualting the security guard a number of times but was expected.

Any regular Joe Blow tries that on and they'd get the book thrown at them.

It does stink... A complete different set of rules for all of them... misuse $100K on prostitutes and you don't get the sack - that would obviously be the case for Joe Blow

What illegalities did Craig Thomson commit again?

who knows? I was just commenting on how there is one rule for 'us' and one rule for 'them'.... How many joe blows receive assistance when they get caught misusing funds?

[Jimmy_041]

It stinks she can get away with stealing nearly $100 of food and assualting the security guard a number of times but was expected.

Any regular Joe Blow tries that on and they'd get the book thrown at them.

It does stink... A complete different set of rules for all of them... misuse $100K on prostitutes and you don't get the sack - that would obviously be the case for Joe Blow

What illegalities did Craig Thomson commit again?

Got caught

[Psyber]

Re the "no conviction recorded".
When a lawyer makes an application for this Courts usually take into account all the operating factors; mental state at the time, past record and behaviour, likelihood of re-offending.
It doesn't just apply to high profile people.

[once_were_warriors]

Re the "no conviction recorded".
When a lawyer makes an application for this Courts usually take into account all the operating factors; mental state at the time, past record and behaviour, likelihood of re-offending.
It doesn't just apply to high profile people.

Don't be sensible , it ruins the topic.

[Gozu]

Paul Howes on Mary Jo Fisher in September:

For years, I've known South Australian senator Mary Jo Fisher was capable of engaging in some unusual behaviour.

Indeed, several years ago I personally watched in utter amazement as the honourable Liberal party senator stuffed a plate of cheese and a collection of fruit into her handbag at an airport lounge.

I knew it was her, because I had had a conversation with her only moments before.

I've never tested it, but I believe you're allowed to take as much cheese and fruit as you want - if you really want to. Nor am I suggesting that Fisher's conduct that day in any way implies she is guilty of the charges she is now facing.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/o ... 6128839531