Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:20 pm

HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:Much of Western Sydney were no votes from what I saw, so yes, perhaps the communities of immigrants in that region were against the notion.


So how do we feel about them now?

Bigots?
Persecuted minority?


Both?
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:41 pm

Labor MP Jason Clare is reported to be voting Yes on the same sex marriage bill despite his electorate of Blaxland recording the highest NO vote in the country at 73.9 per cent.


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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:07 pm

Interesting article on why Western Sydney voted no in general.

SSM: Why NSW had the largest opposition to same-sex marriage
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/n ... ey/9152542
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:26 pm

bennymacca wrote:Interesting article on why Western Sydney voted no in general.

SSM: Why NSW had the largest opposition to same-sex marriage
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/n ... ey/9152542


Interesting. Gives rise to the Trump like silent majority when communities within our own country seemingly hold differing beliefs to those you would traditionally associate with Australia.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby bennymacca » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:46 pm

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bennymacca wrote:Interesting article on why Western Sydney voted no in general.

SSM: Why NSW had the largest opposition to same-sex marriage
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/n ... ey/9152542


Interesting. Gives rise to the Trump like silent majority when communities within our own country seemingly hold differing beliefs to those you would traditionally associate with Australia.


It’s not surprising. I don’t really expect people who have been here a short time to automatically flick a switch and subscribe to all our values - and that would be the same through every wave of migration.

It’s our job to show them how awesome australia is and why we value what we do - and add the best bits of their cultures into ours too.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:35 pm

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I see you hiding there @gossipgirl ;))
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Q. » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:27 pm

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:There would be less Labor voters then Wedgie

[quote]0:15 / 9:058:50 Antony Green
"There's 12 seats in Sydney which voted no, 9 of them Labor seats, three of them Liberal seats," Antony Green on the surprises in voting patterns

Woulda lot of those no votes in Sydney come from seats highly populated my those from Muslim backgrounds?


Seems to be working class and immigrant communities along with rural residents that most strongly voted no.


Much of Western Sydney were no votes from what I saw, so yes, perhaps the communities of immigrants in that region were against the notion.[/quote]The NSW bible belt
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jim05 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Q. wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Jim05 wrote:[quote="Jimmy_041"]There would be less Labor voters then Wedgie

[quote]0:15 / 9:058:50 Antony Green
"There's 12 seats in Sydney which voted no, 9 of them Labor seats, three of them Liberal seats," Antony Green on the surprises in voting patterns

Woulda lot of those no votes in Sydney come from seats highly populated my those from Muslim backgrounds?


Seems to be working class and immigrant communities along with rural residents that most strongly voted no.


Much of Western Sydney were no votes from what I saw, so yes, perhaps the communities of immigrants in that region were against the notion.[/quote]The NSW bible belt[/quote]
So you don’t think the Asian or Middle Eastern communities that make up a huge percentage of Sydney’s West made a difference?
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Q. » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:10 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Seems to be working class and immigrant communities along with rural residents that most strongly voted no.


Much of Western Sydney were no votes from what I saw, so yes, perhaps the communities of immigrants in that region were against the notion.
The NSW bible belt

So you don’t think the Asian or Middle Eastern communities that make up a huge percentage of Sydney’s West made a difference?
And what percentage is that?

It's an overly simplistic view. The result there is a combination of an ageing, low socio economic, predominantly religious population.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jim05 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:21 pm

Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:
Booney wrote:[quote="bennymacca"][quote="Jim05"][quote="Jimmy_041"]There would be less Labor voters then Wedgie

[quote]0:15 / 9:058:50 Antony Green
"There's 12 seats in Sydney which voted no, 9 of them Labor seats, three of them Liberal seats," Antony Green on the surprises in voting patterns

Woulda lot of those no votes in Sydney come from seats highly populated my those from Muslim backgrounds?


Seems to be working class and immigrant communities along with rural residents that most strongly voted no.


Much of Western Sydney were no votes from what I saw, so yes, perhaps the communities of immigrants in that region were against the notion.[/quote]The NSW bible belt[/quote]
So you don’t think the Asian or Middle Eastern communities that make up a huge percentage of Sydney’s West made a difference?[/quote]And what percentage is that?

It's an overly simplistic view. The result there is a combination of an ageing, low socio economic, predominantly religious population.[/quote]
Hard to tell depending on different suburbs but my wife’s works has several sites in Western Sydney that deal with immigrants and in suburbs like Parramatta and Cabramatta the percentage is very high. Several suburbs have a very high level of Lebanese population aswell. I haven’t sat down and looked at how the individual seats voted
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Q. » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:34 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:And what percentage is that?

It's an overly simplistic view. The result there is a combination of an ageing, low socio economic, predominantly religious population.

Hard to tell depending on different suburbs but my wife’s works has several sites in Western Sydney that deal with immigrants and in suburbs like Parramatta and Cabramatta the percentage is very high. Several suburbs have a very high level of Lebanese population aswell. I haven’t sat down and looked at how the individual seats voted


38.7% of Greater Western Sydney residents were born overseas.

The area is a religious hotbed.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Corona Man » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:10 am

Pardon my question here but I'm in NZ this week. What were the voting percentages? I'm hearing 68% yes, is that correct? What was the informal or "abstinence" vote. For the record, I did not record a vote. What consenting adults do is none of my business.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Magellan » Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:48 am

Corona Man wrote:Pardon my question here but I'm in NZ this week. What were the voting percentages? I'm hearing 68% yes, is that correct? What was the informal or "abstinence" vote. For the record, I did not record a vote. What consenting adults do is none of my business.

Yes 61.6%
No 38.4%
Unclear 0.2%
Participation rate 79.5%.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:21 am

Magellan wrote:
Corona Man wrote:Pardon my question here but I'm in NZ this week. What were the voting percentages? I'm hearing 68% yes, is that correct? What was the informal or "abstinence" vote. For the record, I did not record a vote. What consenting adults do is none of my business.

Yes 61.6%
No 38.4%
Pseudo supporters 0.2%
Participation rate 79.5%.

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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby tipper » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:45 am

well now that it is over with, and we have an overwhelming result, ill look forward to Dogger_2 coming for me, or whatever the threat was he made pages ago. ill be waiting :)

now i want another $122 million dollar survey on whether the churches should keep their tax exemption. it seems after this exercise that there are a lot of them that are more like a political lobby organisation than a church...
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Corona Man » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:49 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Magellan wrote:
Corona Man wrote:Pardon my question here but I'm in NZ this week. What were the voting percentages? I'm hearing 68% yes, is that correct? What was the informal or "abstinence" vote. For the record, I did not record a vote. What consenting adults do is none of my business.

Yes 61.6%
No 38.4%
Pseudo supporters 0.2%
Participation rate 79.5%.

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So 21.5% did not participate in the survey. Interesting.
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby tipper » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:54 am

Corona Man wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
Magellan wrote:
Corona Man wrote:Pardon my question here but I'm in NZ this week. What were the voting percentages? I'm hearing 68% yes, is that correct? What was the informal or "abstinence" vote. For the record, I did not record a vote. What consenting adults do is none of my business.

Yes 61.6%
No 38.4%
Pseudo supporters 0.2%
Participation rate 79.5%.

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So 21.5% did not participate in the survey. Interesting.


or was it 10% didnt participate and aust post lost 11.5%? ;) :lol:
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:23 am

tipper wrote: or was it 10% didnt participate and aust post lost 11.5%? ;) :lol:


:lol: or still on the way because they didn't pay the $20 express post (that means within a month)
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby stan » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:39 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:
tipper wrote: or was it 10% didnt participate and aust post lost 11.5%? ;) [emoji38]


[emoji38] or still on the way because they didn't pay the $20 express post (that means within a month)
I think in true aussie style 21.5% just couldnt be stuffed!
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Now it's going to be a postal vote that won't count.

Postby bennymacca » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:27 am

80% participation is higher than they thought it would be
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