Russian forces have captured the Chernobyl nuclear power plant after a ‘fierce’ battle on the first day of the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine, as US President Joe Biden condemned Vladimir Putin.
Russians have admitted to accidentally firing at a Turkish warship. NATO might get involved nowstan wrote:From a strategic point of view Putin goal is clear, having a Nato backed Ukraine that close to Moscow for him would be a problem. Almost the Cuban missile crisis if you look at it that way.
Looking back and how they have come at them out of previously Ukraine held land such as the Crimean peninsula, it seems this was setup sometime ago.
NATO had the chance to get Ukraine in as soon as possible after the Crimea was annexed. Then they would be able to take action immediately. However, that's not the case and now they'll all sit back and watch Putin take Ukraine.
Putin is making good about Ukraine Joining NATO, I can't recall when the agreement was made, might have been during the Bush years, that NATO wouldn't pursue former Soviet countries to be part of NATO.
stan wrote:From a strategic point of view Putin goal is clear, having a Nato backed Ukraine that close to Moscow for him would be a problem. Almost the Cuban missile crisis if you look at it that way.
Looking back and how they have come at them out of previously Ukraine held land such as the Crimean peninsula, it seems this was setup sometime ago.
NATO had the chance to get Ukraine in as soon as possible after the Crimea was annexed. Then they would be able to take action immediately. However, that's not the case and now they'll all sit back and watch Putin take Ukraine.
Putin is making good about Ukraine Joining NATO, I can't recall when the agreement was made, might have been during the Bush years, that NATO wouldn't pursue former Soviet countries to be part of NATO.
stan wrote:From a strategic point of view Putin goal is clear, having a Nato backed Ukraine that close to Moscow for him would be a problem. Almost the Cuban missile crisis if you look at it that way.
Looking back and how they have come at them out of previously Ukraine held land such as the Crimean peninsula, it seems this was setup sometime ago.
NATO had the chance to get Ukraine in as soon as possible after the Crimea was annexed. Then they would be able to take action immediately. However, that's not the case and now they'll all sit back and watch Putin take Ukraine.
Putin is making good about Ukraine Joining NATO, I can't recall when the agreement was made, might have been during the Bush years, that NATO wouldn't pursue former Soviet countries to be part of NATO.
Ukraine also offer the agricultural aspect as well.Jimmy_041 wrote:stan wrote:From a strategic point of view Putin goal is clear, having a Nato backed Ukraine that close to Moscow for him would be a problem. Almost the Cuban missile crisis if you look at it that way.
Looking back and how they have come at them out of previously Ukraine held land such as the Crimean peninsula, it seems this was setup sometime ago.
NATO had the chance to get Ukraine in as soon as possible after the Crimea was annexed. Then they would be able to take action immediately. However, that's not the case and now they'll all sit back and watch Putin take Ukraine.
Putin is making good about Ukraine Joining NATO, I can't recall when the agreement was made, might have been during the Bush years, that NATO wouldn't pursue former Soviet countries to be part of NATO.
Cant say I blame them.
By using Belarus to invade Ukraine, he's proving that point
Yep, he hasn’t got the balls.RB wrote:Big difference between invading Ukraine and invading a NATO country though.
It would be a very risky move indeed for Putin to decide to invade Lithuania.
I reckon he does have the balls. If he gets Lithuania, then with Belarus as his ally, he would then have a port in the Baltic sea.Jim05 wrote:Yep, he hasn’t got the balls.RB wrote:Big difference between invading Ukraine and invading a NATO country though.
It would be a very risky move indeed for Putin to decide to invade Lithuania.
He is only taking on Ukraine as he knows no one will seriously come to their aide
He already has Kaliningrad which is the only ice free port in the Baltic.stan wrote:I reckon he does have the balls. If he gets Lithuania, then with Belarus as his ally, he would then have a port in the Baltic sea.Jim05 wrote:Yep, he hasn’t got the balls.RB wrote:Big difference between invading Ukraine and invading a NATO country though.
It would be a very risky move indeed for Putin to decide to invade Lithuania.
He is only taking on Ukraine as he knows no one will seriously come to their aide
EU nations are also now providing fighter jets in Ukranian air space. This is going to get out of control soon and it's going to be on as Belarus are looking to aid Russia in this attack on Ukraine. With he EU coming in it's a matter of time before NATO get involved, one way or the other.Jim05 wrote:He already has Kaliningrad which is the only ice free port in the Baltic.stan wrote:I reckon he does have the balls. If he gets Lithuania, then with Belarus as his ally, he would then have a port in the Baltic sea.Jim05 wrote:Yep, he hasn’t got the balls.RB wrote:Big difference between invading Ukraine and invading a NATO country though.
It would be a very risky move indeed for Putin to decide to invade Lithuania.
He is only taking on Ukraine as he knows no one will seriously come to their aide
He won’t attempt to take a NATO country in Lithuania as the return fire would be swift and decisive from all NATO members.
As it is the Ukrainians are holding him at bay and are even taking back cities like Kharkiv. His army is getting destroyed currently and there has even been soldiers refusing to join the battle or turning around and heading home. Massive failure so far
Jim05 wrote:He already has Kaliningrad which is the only ice free port in the Baltic.stan wrote:I reckon he does have the balls. If he gets Lithuania, then with Belarus as his ally, he would then have a port in the Baltic sea.Jim05 wrote:Yep, he hasn’t got the balls.RB wrote:Big difference between invading Ukraine and invading a NATO country though.
It would be a very risky move indeed for Putin to decide to invade Lithuania.
He is only taking on Ukraine as he knows no one will seriously come to their aide
He won’t attempt to take a NATO country in Lithuania as the return fire would be swift and decisive from all NATO members.
As it is the Ukrainians are holding him at bay and are even taking back cities like Kharkiv. His army is getting destroyed currently and there has even been soldiers refusing to join the battle or turning around and heading home. Massive failure so far