HFL Division 2 (Country)

[The Crumber]

Kersbrook had kicked nearly 60 goals by 3/4 time and I think it was inappropriate to let the game continue, unless it was Callington's choice. Overkill in footy isn't funny when a club is in so much trouble.

The idea of a C grade only for Callington this year was raised at one of their emergency meetings pre-season, along with some other very valid ideas to keep the club afloat. But only a small minority of members were willing to entertain the idea. At the next meeting, a huge committee was elected which was bigger than their genuine Senior list at the time, but unfortunately the players required to fulfill the plan didn't eventuate.

A 3 Div Comp in HFL is long overdue. One only has to look at some of the demolitions in Div 2 in recent years to see that this MUST happen. Avoiding relegation is great motivation for clubs on the 'borderline' in situations like this and can only be a good thing for the comp.

Re the media infiltrating Callington, I think this should be discussed very, very carefully by all stakeholders at the club before making that decision. I had some good mates playing at Milang when they took up a similar offer years ago and the eventual outcome wasn't pretty. It was motivational for a fortnight, but a few weeks later the club fell into an even bigger hole when the hype wore off. The decision to involve the media at the Panthers was made by a handful of members and regretted soon after. I don't think Cally should get carried away by the offer.

[The Gimp]

Great post Gimp. No wonder you come from an underachieving club. After having a bye in the first 3 rounds, would you have liked Brett to tell his chargers at half time "That will do boys" or "Let's stop trying lads". Spose Tony Symonds should have told Victor Harbour the same when Ross Gibbs kicked plenty in their demolishing of Port Elliot some years back. It's not a record the KFC are jumping up and down about, and don't go blaming Kersbrook or any other Country Division team that gives Callington a hiding this season. Fingers should be pointed at Callington first of all, for suggesting they could put 2 sides on the park to be competitive after losing the majority of their players from last year. The HFL should/could have known about the train wreck that was going to happen this season too. Don't blame the other clubs.

As expected, a typical moronic response coming from you Cougar. You couldn't even answer my question, so what did Kersbrook gain in that 2nd half that they didn't gain in the first half? If your club needed more match time, why didn't they organise more trial matches or get your A grade to play against your senior colts because they would've probably put up more than a fight than what Callington were able to. And I never said Callington or the HFL shouldn't shoulder any of the blame - what I did say was that I thought it was an ordinary act and if I were in Brett's shoes I would've done it differently.
You call our club underachieving? So do you call what Kersbrook did to Callington overachieving???
I would rather be involved in a club that is underachieving and sportsmanlike than be involved with a club like Kersbrook that is more than willing to sink the boot right in to a club that is on it's knees.

[Toronto]

when are maccy playing cally, bet the terminator is looking for this day!!

[bazzw]

I think that if anyone should have stopped the game, it should have been the umpires. I think thats a terrible call to have a go at Brett James and Kersbrook, what was he ment to do?? You can only play against what is on the park against you. Its not Kersbrook's fault that Callington cant put a competetive side on the park and nor should it be their responsibility to stop the match.

Were Kersbrook supposed to just kick the ball around and play "keepies off" and not score in the second half? Or let Callington score by all laying on the deck? I think this would have been more deflating in Callington's perspective.

[The Gimp]

Bazz,
If I were Brett, at half time or even 3 qtr time, I would've spoken to the Kerbrook captains and said "look, we're not getting anything out of this, there's a chance we could get a easy injury, I think we should approach the Cally coach and umpires and see if they want to continue the game". If the captains wanted to continue and felt they were getting something out of the game, then continue. If they agreed with the coach, approach the umpires, the opposition coaches and captains and maybe even the presidents and discuss about calling the game off. If Cally so "no, we want to continue, then so be it".

My opinion is that losing by 40gl is bad enough but to get beaten by 80 goal is just humiliating and demoralising, and if they had trouble getting players to Cally, they are going to have even more trouble now. I just don't think it helps anyone by getting beaten by that much.

[Westsider]

I wonder if the cougar is the same cougar who managed to get himself banned from a certain pub poker company because he is a complete douche.

[bazzw]

Fair enough Gimp. I see what you're tryin to say but its A Grade football. I notice that ths B's was 35 goals to none as well, are Callington actually fielding two full teams? Or are there players doubling up and playing both grades?

[Bat Pad]

It's Senior A grade football, if Callington are that poor, it's not Kersbrooks problem. If they had stopped the game at half time, it would have just been another 50 goal loss, and the same thing would keep happening every week. Maybe now Callington, after this 80 goal loss will now give up and fold, which is certainly better for the other 8 teams in the comp. Or go down to c grade or whatever, which is also better for the other 8 teams. It is unfortunate, however that doesnt take away from the fact that Callington clearly no longer deserve to be an A grade side in Hills Country. What happened on Saturday is a disgrace, but not on Kersbrooks part.

[MONTE CRISTO]

Gimp - what the hell are you on about? Not that it matters much but have checked the official HFL program and guess what it says:-

May 2 - Round 4 Callington v Kersbrook. And then on another page, Time of Quarters - A - 4 X 22 minutes plus time on. Thats what happened. Don't go on about Captains talking, Presidents talking, coaches talking, umpires stepping in. Callington put their hands up to play at the beginning of the year, the HFL accepted them and so put up with the consequences. And guess what else? On May 16 in Round 6 Callington v Torrens Valley, and unless their is a foreit the same thing will happen.

Get over it!

[Tooting Bec]

Gimp - what the hell are you on about? Not that it matters much but have checked the official HFL program and guess what it says:-

May 2 - Round 4 Callington v Kersbrook. And then on another page, Time of Quarters - A - 4 X 22 minutes plus time on. Thats what happened. Don't go on about Captains talking, Presidents talking, coaches talking, umpires stepping in. Callington put their hands up to play at the beginning of the year, the HFL accepted them and so put up with the consequences. And guess what else? On May 16 in Round 6 Callington v Torrens Valley, and unless their is a foreit the same thing will happen.

Get over it!

Good call and by bat pad as well. It's not Kersbrook's fault at all.The callington powers that be have bitten off a bit more than they can chew this year. All credit to them for trying to salvage the club from folding earlier this year but realistically they were never going to be competitive with 2 senior sides where they?
I've been on the back of a few hidings in my time so I know what it's like but you can only blame callington by putting themselves in this situation in the first place.

[Cougar]

Great post Gimp. No wonder you come from an underachieving club. After having a bye in the first 3 rounds, would you have liked Brett to tell his chargers at half time "That will do boys" or "Let's stop trying lads". Spose Tony Symonds should have told Victor Harbour the same when Ross Gibbs kicked plenty in their demolishing of Port Elliot some years back. It's not a record the KFC are jumping up and down about, and don't go blaming Kersbrook or any other Country Division team that gives Callington a hiding this season. Fingers should be pointed at Callington first of all, for suggesting they could put 2 sides on the park to be competitive after losing the majority of their players from last year. The HFL should/could have known about the train wreck that was going to happen this season too. Don't blame the other clubs.

As expected, a typical moronic response coming from you Cougar. You couldn't even answer my question, so what did Kersbrook gain in that 2nd half that they didn't gain in the first half? If your club needed more match time, why didn't they organise more trial matches or get your A grade to play against your senior colts because they would've probably put up more than a fight than what Callington were able to. And I never said Callington or the HFL shouldn't shoulder any of the blame - what I did say was that I thought it was an ordinary act and if I were in Brett's shoes I would've done it differently.
You call our club underachieving? So do you call what Kersbrook did to Callington overachieving???
I would rather be involved in a club that is underachieving and sportsmanlike than be involved with a club like Kersbrook that is more than willing to sink the boot right in to a club that is on it's knees.

Ah Gimp. Are you still envious that your Club's favourite son won't return to his home ground and would probably rather play at his Best Man's Club

Think you've settled a point pretty convincing why you'll never be chased by a club to coach. What more was Brett suppose to do? Kersbrook have had a bye, an unconvincing win against Maccy, and a slog against TV. Here was a chance to give his forwards some confidence and a good work out. He had Brad Pearce and Paul James changing from a Back Pocket, defenders playing on the ball and the Coach played from the bench. The result could have been much, much bigger. Roger gave a short statement to the Sunday Mail, but both he and Brett have been hounded by the Media/Press but have declined interviews as they don't want the result 'Big Noted'. The game is done and dusted, and whoever plays Callington next week, the results will probably be the same and at worse, similar. Don't blame the other 8 HFL Country Div Clubs for Callington's demise.

[The Gimp]

Gimp - what the hell are you on about? Not that it matters much but have checked the official HFL program and guess what it says:-

May 2 - Round 4 Callington v Kersbrook. And then on another page, Time of Quarters - A - 4 X 22 minutes plus time on. Thats what happened. Don't go on about Captains talking, Presidents talking, coaches talking, umpires stepping in. Callington put their hands up to play at the beginning of the year, the HFL accepted them and so put up with the consequences. And guess what else? On May 16 in Round 6 Callington v Torrens Valley, and unless their is a foreit the same thing will happen.

Get over it!

Fair enough, you think it's fine, I disagree. That's what these forums are for. But I'm sure it's an issue that will be talked about for a while.

[Cougar]

I wonder if the cougar is the same cougar who managed to get himself banned from a certain pub poker company because he is a complete douche.

Not too sure about that Cougar, I'm just the old slow bloke, who runs like Barry Dawson

[Cougar]

Gimp - what the hell are you on about? Not that it matters much but have checked the official HFL program and guess what it says:-

May 2 - Round 4 Callington v Kersbrook. And then on another page, Time of Quarters - A - 4 X 22 minutes plus time on. Thats what happened. Don't go on about Captains talking, Presidents talking, coaches talking, umpires stepping in. Callington put their hands up to play at the beginning of the year, the HFL accepted them and so put up with the consequences. And guess what else? On May 16 in Round 6 Callington v Torrens Valley, and unless their is a foreit the same thing will happen.

Get over it!

So we're gonna hear the Gimp cry all over again in a couple of weeks?

[The Gimp]

Ah Gimp. Are you still envious that your Club's favourite son won't return to his home ground and would probably rather play at his Best Man's Club

I'm not sure who you are talking about here Cougar??? Who is this "club's favourite son"???

And was there a point to be settled about me coaching???? I think you have me for the wrong person. I'm not looking to coach.

[Cougar]

Ah Gimp. Are you still envious that your Club's favourite son won't return to his home ground and would probably rather play at his Best Man's Club

I'm not sure who you are talking about here Cougar??? Who is this "club's favourite son"???

And was there a point to be settled about me coaching???? I think you have me for the wrong person. I'm not looking to coach.

Who from your club has the highest credentials?

I don't think anyone would look to you to coach

[The Gimp]

Ah Gimp. Are you still envious that your Club's favourite son won't return to his home ground and would probably rather play at his Best Man's Club


I'm not sure who you are talking about here Cougar??? Who is this "club's favourite son"???

And was there a point to be settled about me coaching???? I think you have me for the wrong person. I'm not looking to coach.

Who from your club has the highest credentials?

I don't think anyone would look to you to coach [/quote]
Bazz Pfeiffer - what's your point????

[ORDoubleBlues]

I'd doubt Scott Burns would have time to get back during a season

[The Duke]

Not sure if it was in the local Hills papers, but in the local Barossa paper it appears that Torrens Valley are having troubles with the council maintaining Mt Pleasant oval. The President goes onto to say something along the lines that the club is struggling to recruit and retain players.

[KS41]

It's Senior A grade football, if Callington are that poor, it's not Kersbrooks problem. If they had stopped the game at half time, it would have just been another 50 goal loss, and the same thing would keep happening every week. Maybe now Callington, after this 80 goal loss will now give up and fold, which is certainly better for the other 8 teams in the comp. Or go down to c grade or whatever, which is also better for the other 8 teams. It is unfortunate, however that doesnt take away from the fact that Callington clearly no longer deserve to be an A grade side in Hills Country. What happened on Saturday is a disgrace, but not on Kersbrooks part.

Probably not the best call. Its never good to see a club fold, and many great ones have folded before. What ever the reason, be it poor mangenment ect. its not a good situation. Maybe they should think about joining the mid murray, they need more clubs, and callington could find themselves at worst competative. (not singling out this post either bat pad)