HFL Division 2 (Country)

[youngpace]

Unfortunatley the perfomances of Callington and Sedan Cambai have made Hills football the laughing stock in SA country football circles. This is not acceptable given that there are many excellent well run football clubs in the Hills league. As an outsider looking in, surely the powers that be in the League are aware of the damage that there performances are doing to the image of the Hills league.

In the RMFL I can only recall two 20 goal hauls in the last 20 years and even great full forwards like Clint Giradi and in the past Brad Shiell had to work hard to kick 10 goals against the weaker sides. It is disappointing that the regularity of huge hauls against Callington and SC has undervalued some excellent achievements of other forwards in other leagues.

don't like to use this quote , as many others would suffice, but that's how the cards fall.
i went to the Sedan/Cam vs Cally match just to see what all the fuss was about.
if two teams whose attitude and enthusiasm for the contest and the game were a measure of the league that they represented then the Hills league is in good stead. admiittedly the skills were not there in all the players but the bottom line is , they were out there giving it their best go.
they are not and should not be considered "laughing stock".
wether they should be playing in A grade or C grade is up to the league to decide but for people to cry 'get rid of them" is not on. both clubs fielded two sides, 80+ blokes having a kick on a sadty arvo with their mates, and that is what it should be all about at this level

end of rant

I am realy stuck on this topic (but sick of reading about it ), i am all for have a go style footy and think everyone should be able to play somewhere should they want a kick. BUT from an oponant players point of view play cally (not the same with s/c) is not as you have discribed it. They are un inthused and the attidude is one of damage control. You spend all day trying to get to the ball before it reaches the boundry, as that is were they aspire to get it. 80 bloke enjoying a kick is what it is about, not having one kick each a day.

[Brodlach]

Just had a gander at Sportingpulse and HOLY CRAP that was a one-sided weekend of footy! Is anyone going to challenge Birdwood, Kersbrook & Echunga? re the goal kicking - I totally agree with ORDoubleblues - couldn't you just not include the bags that anyone kicks vs Cally but include the rest? That's basically an even playing field isn't it? The poor aspects of this league have got a lot of time on here, what about the good stuff ie Can the afore mentioned top 3 be stopped?

Gums

match it with them on a day, yes. Stop them, no!

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

[AKA]

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook[/quote]
I think that Kersbrook are in front of Gum at the moment with form, i think Birdwood and kersy are the teams to beat. Be very interesting to see how Gum go against a Birdwood then we will see if there around the mark.

[The Sorce]

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

I think that Kersbrook are in front of Gum at the moment with form, i think Birdwood and kersy are the teams to beat. Be very interesting to see how Gum go against a Birdwood then we will see if there around the mark.[/quote]

Not gonna Put Echunga in that mix???????? Seeing as they have already beaten Kersbrook?

[the big fella]

Brookers looked good satdy but where only up against lids..hart and lees injured to come back??

[the big fella]

make that kids..not lids!!

[FlyingHigh]

Having an interest in Sedan-Cambrai this thread makes interesting reading. I'm heartened by some of the support on here, and take on board the criticism. Yes, given some of the results ACROSS the leagues, there probably is a good case for a 3 tier league. However, in the meantime, our club continues to implement a five year plan. The club is becoming very well organised off the field with many new initiatives. It's working hard to engage the local and wider community. The facilities are good with improvements to come. People join the club because it's a great place to be. And we by no means are unable to pay quality recruits if and when we can attract them. The first game v Maccy we were shakey with numbers largely due to the early start of the season clashing with a late vintage in the Barossa, where a large number of our players come from, but the last two weeks we haven't had anyone play 2 games in a day. This is due to nearly 20 new players to the club with still more to come or return. This hasn't happened for at least 5 years. And this year's coach has a real understanding of where we are at and has the boys working to a long term goal which the players have embraced. The point, give us a go. If we don't continue to improve year on year, well we understand reality and will reassess the options with the club and community's best interests at heart.

One last point re Cally. They are trying to come back from further behind than us. I hope they too have a plan. Judging by the team they had on the park on saturday, they certainly have improved. Their team had a more youthful, leaner look than last year. I'm not sure whether players put their hand up because they were playing us, but if that team continues on together, they will improve too.

Great post OTP. This is exactly why I think some on here calling for S-C to be in C Grade or temprarily suspended don't have a true undestanding of real country footy. The travel too is a huge issue for you blokes, if you had to travel down for juniors on Saturday and then C-Grade on Sunday, it would just about kill the club.
Aplogies for assuming you wouldn't be in a position to pay players if required, though I would still be surprised if you were able to pay in the vicintiy of what Hills Central, BL+G and River Murray leagues can pay.
All the best for the season, I hope you cause a few "upsets".

[On The Pine]

Thanks Flying. Yes, you are right on both points. Among other things, travel would also be an issue with C grade that may just result in killing the club. Travel would have been a major issue also if we had joined the Mallee league as was mooted by the SANFL a few years ago, or if we had joined Indy's. And no, we can't match the dollars annually paid by other clubs so no offence taken. However, payment is available for the right type of quality recruit. For us in this regard, it's about quality, not quantity.

A big boost for our club has been the return of netball following the footy. I wonder if this has been well received by the other 6 Country Div clubs that are participating, and whether there is any chance the 3 non participating clubs may join up in the future?

Again, thanks for your positive comments.

[godoubleblues]

Just had a gander at Sportingpulse and HOLY CRAP that was a one-sided weekend of footy! Is anyone going to challenge Birdwood, Kersbrook & Echunga? re the goal kicking - I totally agree with ORDoubleblues - couldn't you just not include the bags that anyone kicks vs Cally but include the rest? That's basically an even playing field isn't it? The poor aspects of this league have got a lot of time on here, what about the good stuff ie Can the afore mentioned top 3 be stopped?

Gums

match it with them on a day, yes. Stop them, no!

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

jumping on the Gum bandwagon Brodlach
Gum were far too good for Meadows though, they had no answer for Ashby, and Gums ruckman went down in the first 1/4

[The Crumber]

As editor of the site, I thought that might be a good way of making a stand about the situation there in the HFL Country FL
There is no way I am going to include Hills Country this season on the statewide list of 2011. End of story.

Regards
Lawrie Colliver
Editor, countryfooty.com.au

Don't want to get into a slanging match, because I love your website, and don't disagree with making a stand against Cally.
I still think it is insulting to S-C given what they have been through their last two years, and their seeming determination to keep their club running for their community and hopefully one day become more successful
Looking through the scores there this year, they are more than a silly chance to knock off Kangarilla.

Entirely fair and valid comments. S-C have every right to be in Div 2 and deserve full support because they have the numbers required and a plan for success. Good luck to them. It's a very unreasonable deal that they've been coupled with Cally by some posters and I agree that to do so is totally insulting indeed.

It all comes back to the same old, same old question......
Why on earth would a League which purports to be acting in the best interests of football allow (a) a hardworking Club such as S-C to cop the fall-out of Cally's disaster, then (b) sit on its' hands and watch all the other Clubs in Hills Country be penalised by having their inclusion on web-sites cancelled and their goal-kickers scrutinized?

"Best interests of football" my arse. We all know this site is regularly scanned by Mr. President and some of his friends. None of us understand the logic of all this. PLEASE EXPLAIN??

[AKA]

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

I think that Kersbrook are in front of Gum at the moment with form, i think Birdwood and kersy are the teams to beat. Be very interesting to see how Gum go against a Birdwood then we will see if there around the mark.

Not gonna Put Echunga in that mix???????? Seeing as they have already beaten Kersbrook?[/quote]
Echunga are a very good side, but not in the same mix as Birdwood and Kersbrook IMO. Echunga are ahead of Gum though at this stage.

[From The Outer]

What has happened to the mighty Rams. As a club who were reluctant to be dropped from the top league some years ago because they thought they deserved to be playing at that level to a battling Country division club. There is something mighty wrong with that club at the minute. Can anybody explain why??

[R. White]

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

I think that Kersbrook are in front of Gum at the moment with form, i think Birdwood and kersy are the teams to beat. Be very interesting to see how Gum go against a Birdwood then we will see if there around the mark.

Not gonna Put Echunga in that mix???????? Seeing as they have already beaten Kersbrook?

Echunga are a very good side, but not in the same mix as Birdwood and Kersbrook IMO. Echunga are ahead of Gum though at this stage.[/quote]

There is a jokes page under entertainment. You should be posting this rubbish there!!!!!

[the big fella]

quote;What has happened to the mighty Rams. As a club who were reluctant to be dropped from the top league some years ago because they thought they deserved to be playing at that level to a battling Country division club. There is something mighty wrong with that club at the minute. Can anybody explain why??

Fact:Nothing wrong at the rams..just not paying Big $s..working with the juniors..1 colt and five first year players in As saturday. 5 injuries did not help.

Fact:3 of the 4 teams beat brookers on the weekend..the ressies even one!

Fact: As have played 2 sides /gums..brookers who should be top 3/4 and went down to meadows by 2 goals.

[Dogmatic]

Back on to the important stuff.
When will the impact umpire be unleashed on the A's?

[the big fella]

Johhno did a great job at the brook satday

[benchmark]

As editor of the site, I thought that might be a good way of making a stand about the situation there in the HFL Country FL
There is no way I am going to include Hills Country this season on the statewide list of 2011. End of story.

Regards
Lawrie Colliver
Editor, countryfooty.com.au

Fair call mate.

Well said ..the comp has some serious issues besides cally there is a huge gap between top and 8th team,the comp seems very uninteresting bordering on boring ,this is evidenced by noone writing much about games each week only snippets thats because results are known beforehand. Until something is done the comp will continue to be the worst of all regional comps.

[AKA]

Gums will finish in front of Kersbrook

I think that Kersbrook are in front of Gum at the moment with form, i think Birdwood and kersy are the teams to beat. Be very interesting to see how Gum go against a Birdwood then we will see if there around the mark.

Not gonna Put Echunga in that mix???????? Seeing as they have already beaten Kersbrook?

Echunga are a very good side, but not in the same mix as Birdwood and Kersbrook IMO. Echunga are ahead of Gum though at this stage.

There is a jokes page under entertainment. You should be posting this rubbish there!!!!![/quote]
Opinions are like assholes mate everyones got one

[PitBull]

Johhno did a great job at the brook satday

Went to watch my nephew play in the U13's Nairne v Kersbrook. Parents were commenting on the high level and interaction from the central umpire. Looking a little harder it was the Impact Umpire. Mad Mick Taylor needs to cut the umbilical cord and get SJ into the 1's.

[false]

Johhno did a great job at the brook satday

Went to watch my nephew play in the U13's Nairne v Kersbrook. Parents were commenting on the high level and interaction from the central umpire. Looking a little harder it was the Impact Umpire. Mad Mick Taylor needs to cut the umbilical cord and get SJ into the 1's.

Actually I forgot to comment closer to the game but Johno umpired our round 1 17's and b grade and all players were really happy with him. Kept up really well, was quite fair and explained decisions well, even if we could all hear every word from the sideline!