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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby GWW » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:14 pm

Going off on a slight tangent here, but does anyone remember country television stations covering country footy?

The Mt Gambier station in the 1990's, 5SE I think it was, used to show a replay of the Western Border, and Kowree Naracoorte Grand Final a day or 2 after the game, not sure if they did the MSE too.

Whilst living on the Eyre Peninsula as a kid in the early 80's, I can remember GTS BKN covering the Spencer Gulf Football League, showing highlights I think on Saturday evenings. Not sure if it was just the Grand Final, may have been for minor round games as well.

I'm assuming there's no similar coverage these days, although I'm guessing most of the local tv stations throughout the state, would show some tv highlights during the week on the local tv News.

..re radio - there seems to be a bit of "live" coverage, during country grand finals, but I'm thinking there's not much commentary these days for minor round games. A GSFL game, though I think, is still broadcast on a local Victor Harbor radio station each week.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby AD » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:58 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:My pet hate in country newspapers is the level of slackness most if not all editors take into tidying up the sports columns. Getting those awful reports written by a network of club/sport officials for free is an absolute bonus. The least the editors could do would be to correct the dreadful grammar eg "the players that teed off first..." or "Congratulations must go to Beeswax Bailey for winning..." who but the 32 members of that club would know who old Beeswax is?
Another classic "the 15 year old teenager has a great future ahead of her..." Duhhh. Two tautologies in one sentence.
One regular correspondent makes up words that slide by the editor. Proudness instead of pride is an example. The same guy also writes classy lines like "they all done a great job..."


While I do acknowledge that it is their job to get it right, these editors are rocking up to work on a monday morning with 40-odd reports to sub. I should know, I'm one of them. It's bloody hard work. Then again the things you cite are obvious and I'd be horrified if something like that slipped through.


GWW wrote:..re radio - there seems to be a bit of "live" coverage, during country grand finals, but I'm thinking there's not much commentary these days for minor round games. A GSFL game, though I think, is still broadcast on a local Victor Harbor radio station each week.


KNTFL airs a game a week during the season on 5TCB. All finals are broadcast live, too.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:45 am

Sky Pilot wrote:My pet hate in country newspapers is the level of slackness most if not all editors take into tidying up the sports columns. Getting those awful reports written by a network of club/sport officials for free is an absolute bonus. The least the editors could do would be to correct the dreadful grammar eg "the players that teed off first..." or "Congratulations must go to Beeswax Bailey for winning..." who but the 32 members of that club would know who old Beeswax is?
Another classic "the 15 year old teenager has a great future ahead of her..." Duhhh. Two tautologies in one sentence.
One regular correspondent makes up words that slide by the editor. Proudness instead of pride is an example. The same guy also writes classy lines like "they all done a great job..."
The bowls writer for the same publication called himself a journo within weeks of submitting his first report despite the fact he is a spare parts salesman. He also raves on about how people stop him in the street or at bowls clubs to tell him how much they enjoy reading his column. Carp if you ask me.


That doesn't sound like anything I run. So that's a sigh of relief from here ;)
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:43 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:My pet hate in country newspapers is the level of slackness most if not all editors take into tidying up the sports columns. Getting those awful reports written by a network of club/sport officials for free is an absolute bonus. The least the editors could do would be to correct the dreadful grammar eg "the players that teed off first..." or "Congratulations must go to Beeswax Bailey for winning..." who but the 32 members of that club would know who old Beeswax is?
Another classic "the 15 year old teenager has a great future ahead of her..." Duhhh. Two tautologies in one sentence.
One regular correspondent makes up words that slide by the editor. Proudness instead of pride is an example. The same guy also writes classy lines like "they all done a great job..."
The bowls writer for the same publication called himself a journo within weeks of submitting his first report despite the fact he is a spare parts salesman. He also raves on about how people stop him in the street or at bowls clubs to tell him how much they enjoy reading his column. Carp if you ask me.


That doesn't sound like anything I run. So that's a sigh of relief from here ;)

Quality editing huh?
Don't envy that job at all... ^:)^
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:03 am

I think, like all newspaper staff, we try our best.
Not to say we don't have problems.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:38 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:I think, like all newspaper staff, we try our best.
Not to say we don't have problems.

Like the executive car park is not under cover and there's only instant coffee in the lunchroom :evil:
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby OnSong » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:40 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:I think, like all newspaper staff, we try our best.
Not to say we don't have problems.

Like the executive car park is not under cover and there's only instant coffee in the lunchroom :evil:

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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:42 pm

OnSong wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:I think, like all newspaper staff, we try our best.
Not to say we don't have problems.

Like the executive car park is not under cover and there's only instant coffee in the lunchroom :evil:

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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby PPLions » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:11 pm

One of the Best: Naracoorte Herald: Concise, accurate, informative.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:13 pm

Which is the better of the two Barossa papers when it comes to sports coverage? I think one is free and one costs a $1.50 or something?
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby MOHAMMAD » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:33 am

Sky Pilot wrote:Which is the better of the two Barossa papers when it comes to sports coverage? I think one is free and one costs a $1.50 or something?

The Herald is average at best and the coverage can be read on the back of a postage stamp. (free)
The Leader is a good community paper but the footy coverage is a little sterile and doesn't throw heaps at the local football. ($1.50)
The Bunyip has by far the most extensive coverage and a little rumour and gossip. ($1.50)
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby cheetah » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:35 am

Sky Pilot wrote:
Brad wrote:I'm a Northern Argus fan, great sports coverage.

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Is that paper still going i thought it went bust! serious, you learn something everyday.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:44 am

cheetah wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:
Brad wrote:I'm a Northern Argus fan, great sports coverage.

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Is that paper still going i thought it went bust! serious, you learn something everyday.

I guess you are a comedy writer cheetah
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Squids » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:49 am

The Recorder Port Pirie is excellent. Very informative and not a hint of bias.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby cheetah » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:19 am

Recorder down 2 one edition per week. Overdue IMHO. Still coming out on thursday, I think. Thought wednesday edition would be better? Does this mean paper is struggling?
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:57 am

most papers struggle once they have been taken over by Rural Press/Fairfax and run by accountants in Adelaide. If you want to work out how well a country paper is doing, look and see how many pages it is. 16 is the bare minimum, 24 is barely acceptable, 28 is okay and anything better than that is a bonus. Last weeks Barossa Leader is 72 and the Bunyip is 44 plus the real estate lift out. Neither is in the grip of Rural Press. The Recorder and Flinders News in Pirie struggles because it has to run on unsustainable percentages like sometimes as high as 27% editorial and pictures to 73% ads and advertorials. Privately run papers vary from 50/50 to 45/55 and 40/60 so there is always much more news and this is why people buy them, not to read stupid faaarking ads.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby OnSong » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:30 am

Sky Pilot wrote:most papers struggle once they have been taken over by Rural Press/Fairfax and run by accountants in Adelaide. If you want to work out how well a country paper is doing, look and see how many pages it is. 16 is the bare minimum, 24 is barely acceptable, 28 is okay and anything better than that is a bonus. Last weeks Barossa Leader is 72 and the Bunyip is 44 plus the real estate lift out. Neither is in the grip of Rural Press. The Recorder and Flinders News in Pirie struggles because it has to run on unsustainable percentages like sometimes as high as 27% editorial and pictures to 73% ads and advertorials. Privately run papers vary from 50/50 to 45/55 and 40/60 so there is always much more news and this is why people buy them, not to read stupid faaarking ads.

I would say the Leader has a thumping ad percentage SP
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:36 am

OnSong wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:most papers struggle once they have been taken over by Rural Press/Fairfax and run by accountants in Adelaide. If you want to work out how well a country paper is doing, look and see how many pages it is. 16 is the bare minimum, 24 is barely acceptable, 28 is okay and anything better than that is a bonus. Last weeks Barossa Leader is 72 and the Bunyip is 44 plus the real estate lift out. Neither is in the grip of Rural Press. The Recorder and Flinders News in Pirie struggles because it has to run on unsustainable percentages like sometimes as high as 27% editorial and pictures to 73% ads and advertorials. Privately run papers vary from 50/50 to 45/55 and 40/60 so there is always much more news and this is why people buy them, not to read stupid faaarking ads.

I would say the Leader has a thumping ad percentage SP

you could be right OS but I haven't time to go thru it page for page at the minute. In 72 pages I guess there is still a lot of news and sport though.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby OnSong » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:38 am

Sky Pilot wrote:
OnSong wrote:
Sky Pilot wrote:most papers struggle once they have been taken over by Rural Press/Fairfax and run by accountants in Adelaide. If you want to work out how well a country paper is doing, look and see how many pages it is. 16 is the bare minimum, 24 is barely acceptable, 28 is okay and anything better than that is a bonus. Last weeks Barossa Leader is 72 and the Bunyip is 44 plus the real estate lift out. Neither is in the grip of Rural Press. The Recorder and Flinders News in Pirie struggles because it has to run on unsustainable percentages like sometimes as high as 27% editorial and pictures to 73% ads and advertorials. Privately run papers vary from 50/50 to 45/55 and 40/60 so there is always much more news and this is why people buy them, not to read stupid faaarking ads.

I would say the Leader has a thumping ad percentage SP

you could be right OS but I haven't time to go thru it page for page at the minute. In 72 pages I guess there is still a lot of news and sport though.

Disagree. It's a gold mine that thing.
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Re: Regional/country newspapers sports coverage

Postby Sky Pilot » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:23 pm

well a gold mine it might be but I just counted 16 pages of sport! No wonder it sees off its competitor the lightweight Barossa Herald, which is so poor that it is given away free like the Flinders News. They can't sell them and both used to be paid papers I think - before Rural Press took them over.
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