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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:26 pm

Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby heater31 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:35 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?
Don't think you understand that summer/winter tenancy politics that sometimes arises between community groups. Some people within one group sees the other as a stain on their right to use the shared facility even 'out of season' to them there is no out of season.

Might not happen at all facilities but it would be more prevalent than many would realise until they get involved in the inner sanctum and have to communicate to the other group regularly. Hopefully when discussions begin on starting the current in season sport the other is consulted on what us going on other wise things could get nasty for some clubs on both sides of the fence.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:03 pm

heater31 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?
Don't think you understand that summer/winter tenancy politics that sometimes arises between community groups. Some people within one group sees the other as a stain on their right to use the shared facility even 'out of season' to them there is no out of season.

Might not happen at all facilities but it would be more prevalent than many would realise until they get involved in the inner sanctum and have to communicate to the other group regularly. Hopefully when discussions begin on starting the current in season sport the other is consulted on what us going on other wise things could get nasty for some clubs on both sides of the fence.


Nah Ive never been involved :lol:

Would only need the respective cricket associations to agree to leave 2 ovals for footy use until end of October, that would still leave up to 8 ovals for cricket, add in that most cricket associations have grounds that are solely cricket, off the top of my head Port Elliott, Ashbourne, Wistow, Aldgate, Mylor, Basket Range, Heathfield HS, Meadows no. 2 & there are 3 Coromandel Valley ovals.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Keefy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:50 pm

Dutchy wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?
Don't think you understand that summer/winter tenancy politics that sometimes arises between community groups. Some people within one group sees the other as a stain on their right to use the shared facility even 'out of season' to them there is no out of season.

Might not happen at all facilities but it would be more prevalent than many would realise until they get involved in the inner sanctum and have to communicate to the other group regularly. Hopefully when discussions begin on starting the current in season sport the other is consulted on what us going on other wise things could get nasty for some clubs on both sides of the fence.


Nah Ive never been involved [emoji38]

Would only need the respective cricket associations to agree to leave 2 ovals for footy use until end of October, that would still leave up to 8 ovals for cricket, add in that most cricket associations have grounds that are solely cricket, off the top of my head Port Elliott, Ashbourne, Wistow, Aldgate, Mylor, Basket Range, Heathfield HS, Meadows no. 2 & there are 3 Coromandel Valley ovals.
Whats Coro Valley go to do with with Hills.

We (Coro Ramblers) play in ASCA

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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:50 pm

You play in a comp against teams that share grounds with footy clubs don't you?
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Keefy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:54 pm

Dutchy wrote:You play in a comp against teams that share grounds with footy clubs don't you?
A certain number do, but we definitely don't

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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:06 pm

Keefy wrote:
Dutchy wrote:You play in a comp against teams that share grounds with footy clubs don't you?
A certain number do, but we definitely don't

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And thats where you would get more home games early in the season, to potentially free up footy grounds to complete seasons
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby jackpot jim » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:58 am

Unless footy were able to get in 1 complete round and finals (13 Saturdays required) before the end of September, why would they bother starting at all ? If it worked out they needed only a couple of weeks in October to achieve this then maybe cricket could be understanding and delay their season a week or 2 to accommodate them but thats about it. Anyway with all the paranoia about whats going on i wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia recommends that cricket is side lined well into Summer anyway :roll:
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:23 am

jackpot jim wrote:Unless footy were able to get in 1 complete round and finals (13 Saturdays required) before the end of September, why would they bother starting at all ? If it worked out they needed only a couple of weeks in October to achieve this then maybe cricket could be understanding and delay their season a week or 2 to accommodate them but thats about it. Anyway with all the paranoia about whats going on i wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia recommends that cricket is side lined well into Summer anyway :roll:


If there is restrictions on gatherings there is no way country footy is viable without crowds. Cant see any footy played this year.

As for Dutchy's suggestion that a few ovals could be left for footy, thats just not practical. In BLCA there is not enough ovals now with some games being played on Sundays.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby cracka » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:03 pm

jackpot jim wrote:Unless footy were able to get in 1 complete round and finals (13 Saturdays required) before the end of September, why would they bother starting at all ? If it worked out they needed only a couple of weeks in October to achieve this then maybe cricket could be understanding and delay their season a week or 2 to accommodate them but thats about it. Anyway with all the paranoia about whats going on i wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia recommends that cricket is side lined well into Summer anyway :roll:

If that's the case then I think football might need to be a bit flexible with next seasons starting dates
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:02 pm

cracka wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Unless footy were able to get in 1 complete round and finals (13 Saturdays required) before the end of September, why would they bother starting at all ? If it worked out they needed only a couple of weeks in October to achieve this then maybe cricket could be understanding and delay their season a week or 2 to accommodate them but thats about it. Anyway with all the paranoia about whats going on i wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia recommends that cricket is side lined well into Summer anyway :roll:

If that's the case then I think football might need to be a bit flexible with next seasons starting dates


Exactly there is give and take here
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:08 pm

jackpot jim wrote:Unless footy were able to get in 1 complete round and finals (13 Saturdays required) before the end of September, why would they bother starting at all ? If it worked out they needed only a couple of weeks in October to achieve this then maybe cricket could be understanding and delay their season a week or 2 to accommodate them but thats about it. Anyway with all the paranoia about whats going on i wouldn't be surprised if Cricket Australia recommends that cricket is side lined well into Summer anyway :roll:


11 weeks needed, with a top 4 and abbreviated 1v4 / 2v3 finals system, could start as late as 1st August and have GF on 10th October. As footy people why wouldn't we want to try and get a season like this in?
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby tigerpie » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:21 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?

Turf club ovals wouldn't be available I wouldn't think.
Prep begins at the end of September.
You might be able to put it off for a couple of weeks though.
Hard wicket ovals no problem.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:19 pm

Forget about it. We’re not even going to be allowed to attend professional sporting matches even with social distancing until after Xmas - Victoria’s health advisor has already said this during the week. Local footy or cricket In an uncontrolled environment ain’t happening this year unfortunately....
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby scottroo » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:26 pm

Victoria is a different scenario at the moment
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:34 pm

scottroo wrote:Victoria is a different scenario at the moment


Believe me mate I hope I’m wrong wrong wrong and you know that. I just personally can’t see these risks being taken until there is a greater control of this World wide.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Ye Olde Place Kick » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:49 pm

Dutchy wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:And why should cricket assist Dutchy. Do you think football would assist cricket if COVID-19 impacts commenced in September instead of March.


Why wouldn't they? most communities have goodwill between sporting clubs.

Doesn't mean they have to push back their season, just work with footy to leave 3-4 ovals in each league to be used in October, the other ovals can still be used for cricket. Why couldn't it work?
Don't think you understand that summer/winter tenancy politics that sometimes arises between community groups. Some people within one group sees the other as a stain on their right to use the shared facility even 'out of season' to them there is no out of season.

Might not happen at all facilities but it would be more prevalent than many would realise until they get involved in the inner sanctum and have to communicate to the other group regularly. Hopefully when discussions begin on starting the current in season sport the other is consulted on what us going on other wise things could get nasty for some clubs on both sides of the fence.


Nah Ive never been involved :lol:

Would only need the respective cricket associations to agree to leave 2 ovals for footy use until end of October, that would still leave up to 8 ovals for cricket, add in that most cricket associations have grounds that are solely cricket, off the top of my head Port Elliott, Ashbourne, Wistow, Aldgate, Mylor, Basket Range, Heathfield HS, Meadows no. 2 & there are 3 Coromandel Valley ovals.


Other ovals - Ashton, Lenswood, Forest Range, Finniss, Stirling, Palmer, Springton, Eden Valley, Clarendon, Mt Pleasant or Mt Torrens and most likely Milang could be used.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby damian » Thu May 07, 2020 10:46 pm

Another big issue with overlapping footy and cricket as Dutch suggested is that a lot of the guys play both footy & cricket. Sure, anyone would choose to play a footy final over rounds 1-4 of cricket, but that in itself is harsh on the cricket clubs.

I could see the GSCA starting a fortnight later to give the GSFL an extra couple of weekends, but that would be about it. As for relationships between footy & cricket clubs, I reckon most get along alright, but those that don’t, really don’t!

The GSCA has 13 clubs, many of which already require two ovals each weekend. Secondary ovals that are required are;

Tatachilla College
McLaren Flat
Willunga High
Burgess Oval
Victor Hockey Club
Goolwa PS
Victor PS
Huntfield Heights PS

Very hard to then give up two or more ovals for footy use for extra weeks.

Finals at South Adelaide is an option that should definitely be explored, the Clubs that miss out on hosting this year as scheduled can have those rights next year.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby Tiger83 » Fri May 15, 2020 12:43 pm

Taken from a GSFL clubs FB page

As most of you are aware the GSFL held a meeting of all clubs last night regarding the future of the 2020 football season.
It is the leagues intention to commence the season on Saturday the 11th of July from where we will play 9 rounds and a full final series completing the season in early October.
Unfortunately, there are so many variables that a numerous number of things must fall into place to make this possible. The main one is that there are not any major outbreaks in the community of the virus as we go forward into the first stages of less restrictions, so we urge all our players and members to adhere to the rules in place.
So as of next week, training will return to the oval under the mandated protocol B rules as provided by the SANFL and State Government.
The main restrictions are
1. Only 30 players per session at training in groups of 10 players plus one coach per group, limited to 1/3rd of the oval each with no cross over or rotation.
2. No taping/massages or trainers
3. No use of change rooms
4. No spectators
5. No contact and maintain social distancing
6. Coaches and club officials must complete Covid-19 training as a matter of urgency.

There are many other requirements that revolve around hygiene etc that the club needs to get in place. If all goes well this stage will only last until the week of June 8th where we will move to the Stage C, with larger groups and contact etc
. Do not organise informal trainings at the oval, the fines for breaching rules can consist of 12 months jail or $50,000 (individual) $250,000 (club)
Should everything progress as outlined there is still a strong possibility that we will be playing with no crowds, or at best, no bar and limits on supporter access to clubrooms and viewing areas. There was much discussion regarding the financial implications of this and it was made clear that some clubs could not proceed under these circumstances. Therefore, there is much talk of there being a zero-salary cap for the shortened 2020 season. Other leagues have also made it clear that they are considering the same situation. Some local clubs have already broached this matter with their players with a favourable outcome.
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Re: Great Southern Football League

Postby football tragic » Fri May 15, 2020 5:46 pm

In relation to cricket and football over lapping this wont be the case
The cricket season will be put back starting later this year and may go into late march early april next year
This way both can be catered for.
SACA and community cricket would have already been approached about this and will work for what is best for both parties.
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