2nd call

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Postby Blue Boy » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:28 pm

This just In :

Delegates Meeting
The next Delegates meeting will be held on Monday 3 rd July at 7.00pm. This
note is confirmation that the meeting will go ahead. The Executive Committee is
meeting on Monday 26 th June and the agenda for the Delegates meeting will be
circulated on Tuesday. The Executive Committee will be considering a number of
documents at its meeting next Monday. Without preempting
the decision of the
Executive Committee, I would like to inform clubs of the items likely to be
discussed at the Delegates meeting: Division 1 grand final, loss of premiership
points /scores, tribunal and investigations mid year review / feedback, under age
competition. It is hoped a discussion paper on umpiring will be put together and
discussed at the August Delegates meeting.
It is what it is !!!
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Postby sprinter » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:16 am

Im associated with one of the clubs in Div 2. I can deal with the points taken away from Modbury but I cant deal with Gepps Cross recieving the two points.

Realistically its an amatuer sport run by voluteers who cares if the money was late. Lets leave administration and football teams seperate as the kids pay their subs and they win the games its the old Mum and dad that volunteer their services that make the mistakes.
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Postby Pag » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:52 am

Anyone read the Northern Messenger yesterday? There was an article in there about this and they had an interview with Pooraka's president saying "It was a stupid mistake on our behalf, we didn't check the email".

At least he's honest.
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Postby blublurag » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:56 am

Pag wrote:Anyone read the Northern Messenger yesterday? There was an article in there about this and they had an interview with Pooraka's president saying "It was a stupid mistake on our behalf, we didn't check the email".

At least he's honest.


Surely SAAFL CEO Mark Shadiac (or one of his staff) could have made a phone call before causing all this mayhem.

Also, an email was sent by Modbury last night to all clubs with some info but I didn't get the attachment. Have requested for the attachment and will let you know what it says when I get it.
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Postby sprinter » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:33 am

I totally agree with the phone call. It seems it could have been handled alot easier
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Postby Barbara » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:14 pm

BM. Have you laid your eyes on the letter from the Modbury President? If so, what's your opinion?
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Postby blublurag » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:32 pm

blublurag wrote:Also, an email was sent by Modbury last night to all clubs with some info but I didn't get the attachment. Have requested for the attachment and will let you know what it says when I get it.


Dear SAAFL Club,

As you are aware the due date for the 2nd club call was May 31st. As you may also be aware 4 clubs, including Modbury Football Club, were late with this payment.

The penalties imposed on the four clubs included;
· Stripped of all premiership points earned until the outstanding clubs’ calls were paid. For Modbury Football Club this resulted in a loss of all premiership points earned during Round 9 (June 3rd, 2006).
· The clubs’ scores for all rounds where club calls were outstanding were removed and re-recorded as 0 goals and 0 points. For Modbury Football Club this resulted in a loss of scores for all games played during Round 9 (June 3rd, 2006). In addition to the teams which Modbury had defeated in round 9 were awarded with 2 premiership points.
· The SAAFL imposing an additional levy onto the cost of the outstanding call fees.

Several non-financial reasons contributed to our late payment, including an administrative error on our part and a communication breakdown between us and the SAAFL. On 8th June the 2nd call fees to SAAFL were paid. The payment of the additional levy has since been paid. The process to pay the 3rd call fee to SAAFL has been actioned and will be received by SAAFL before the end of this week.

We believe that stripping all clubs premiership points and re-recording our score as 0 goals, 0 points for the late payment of call fees is unfair and makes for an inequitable competition.
The failure of the SAAFL to provide any detail regarding the loss of points and score in the 2006 official handbook or current constitution makes the decision to do this unwarranted and unjust. At the next delegates meeting to be held on 3rd July 2006, all 69 clubs will be asked to vote on the issue of the removal of premiership points and scores. We ask for you to consider in your decision, that all 4 clubs concerned have their points and scores reinstated with the aim to ensure that all SAAFL competitions remain fair and a true reflection of the on field performance of each club. We acknowledge that the late payment of calls should not go unpunished and we believe that financial repercussions are satisfactory in this case. We urge you all to seriously consider the implications for the future of all clubs in the SAAFL competitions, if the current penalties are to remain.

We appeal for your support regarding the unjust decision and ask you to vote for our premiership points and scores to be reinstated for all clubs concerned.

If you would like discuss this matter in more detail or would like to pledge your support for the Modbury Football Club and the other 3 clubs involved please contact myself, Dennis French on 041 884 8945 or mailto:modburyhawks@sa.chariot.net.au

We are looking forward to your support in maintaining a fair and equitable football competition.

Yours Sincerely

Dennis French
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Postby Pag » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:53 pm

They'll get the points back. It doesn't concern anyone in A1, A4, A5 or A6 so I don't see why those 39 clubs wouldn't vote with Modbury, Pooraka, North Pines and Wingfield.
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Postby Barbara » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:16 pm

The league should stick to what they said they would do, not what they have done. If a team is unfinancial and wins they lose their premiership points but keep their score; if they lose they lose their score; and in both cases they cop a late payment fee. In the case where a team who is unfinancial wins, the oppostion should not gain premiership points.
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Postby blublurag » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:45 pm

Barbara wrote:.........if they lose they lose their score;


And the team they played (the winning team), their 'against' should stay as if they played the game. This is so their percentage isn't unfairly increased compared to the rest of the comp.
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Postby sprinttospace » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:11 pm

sprinter wrote:Im associated with one of the clubs in Div 2. I can deal with the points taken away from Modbury but I cant deal with Gepps Cross recieving the two points.

Realistically its an amatuer sport run by voluteers who cares if the money was late. Lets leave administration and football teams seperate as the kids pay their subs and they win the games its the old Mum and dad that volunteer their services that make the mistakes.


hey sprinter, you say you are associated with a club, i's be interested to know in what capacity given your comments above about who makes the mistakes?

i agree with the comments later about a phone call from saafl to the four defaulting clubs the day after the calls are due just to make sure that they have not been overlooked.
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Postby Blue Boy » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:45 pm

Looks like this as of tonight !!!

Clubs that were not paid up will not keep the win if they won and their score will be zero - if they lost they their score will be zero !!!

The teams they played will keep their score but if they lost they do not get the win yet keep their score !!!

Not sure if any one will challenge that !!!
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Postby Barbara » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:43 am

Common sense has prevailed. The unfinancial clubs that won did not get their points back and the teams they played that lost the game receive no points. In theory the games should not have taken place, but the league took into consideration the loss of trade for the home teams. Not sure if there were any unfinancial clubs after the third call?
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Postby Barbara » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:30 pm

BM. What's the feel like down at Ramland given the League's decision to strip your boys of your points from the Modbury game?
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Postby BM » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:36 pm

Under the circumstances the feeling is that the right decision was made. Although the game should never of been played and a forfeit should of been the result IMO if the league was going to go down the path of penalising clubs for non payment. Makes this week game very important.
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Postby Barbara » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:08 am

I understand the main reason the league allowed the games to continue was due to not financially disadvantaging the home team. However, there could have been some serious ramifications if something bad happened as the unfinancial side would also be deemed to be uninsured. Interesting to see what the league will do in the future if confronted with similar circumstances. I agree it now makes this weeks game massive for both PHOS Camden and Gepps X. Should be a cracker!
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