SAAFL Division 8 & D8R (2012)

[Footy Chick]

you've been told by the club, or the league?

[Boosh]

you've been told by the club, or the league?

League

[Executive Member]

Just a reminder that today is the last day to withdraw teams without financial penalty

[mickey]

D8/8R

•Broadview
•Gepps Cross
•PAOC
•Flinders Park
•SMOSH
•Mitcham
•Salisbury
•Hope Valley (new)
•Golden Grove
•Unley (new)
•Seaton (new)

What is the likelyhood of all these teams getting 4 sides? As it stands our club need one of these to not have four sides in order for us to have a D Grade

You will find seaton has scratched a d grade for 2012

[Yank Man]

D8/8R

•Broadview
•Gepps Cross
•PAOC
•Flinders Park
•SMOSH
•Mitcham
•Salisbury
•Hope Valley (new)
•Golden Grove
•Unley (new)
•Seaton (new)

What is the likelyhood of all these teams getting 4 sides? As it stands our club need one of these to not have four sides in order for us to have a D Grade

You will find seaton has scratched a d grade for 2012

Pretty sure Flinders Pk are in Div 7 ???

[New Era]

Get the impression that players in these C1-C4 are regarded as retards or somethin

That probably says more about you than it does the the players in C1-C4

[marbles]

Get the impression that players in these C1-C4 are regarded as retards or somethin

That probably says more about you than it does the the players in C1-C4

sure does mate. No player is hopeless and with the right training and belief any footballer can grow to something bigger than the poorly regarded scraps of the club in which it seems wot they are percieved to be in these divisions

[New Era]

Get the impression that players in these C1-C4 are regarded as retards or somethin

That probably says more about you than it does the the players in C1-C4

sure does mate. No player is hopeless and with the right training and belief any footballer can grow to something bigger than the poorly regarded scraps of the club in which it seems wot they are percieved to be in these divisions

You're the only one that has used C1-C4 & retards in the same sentence. I thought I must have missed something that would've had you suggest this but there isn't a post in this thread that denegrades an individual/team playing in this comp. Get over yourself

[marbles]

Get the impression that players in these C1-C4 are regarded as retards or somethin

That probably says more about you than it does the the players in C1-C4

sure does mate. No player is hopeless and with the right training and belief any footballer can grow to something bigger than the poorly regarded scraps of the club in which it seems wot they are percieved to be in these divisions

You're the only one that has used C1-C4 & retards in the same sentence. I thought I must have missed something that would've had you suggest this but there isn't a post in this thread that denegrades an individual/team playing in this comp. Get over yourself

look closer wise one. And then... Talk, to the hand.

[S Demon]

D8/8R

•Broadview
•Gepps Cross
•PAOC
•Flinders Park
•SMOSH
•Mitcham
•Salisbury
•Hope Valley (new)
•Golden Grove
•Unley (new)
•Seaton (new)

What is the likelyhood of all these teams getting 4 sides? As it stands our club need one of these to not have four sides in order for us to have a D Grade

You will find seaton has scratched a d grade for 2012

Hope Valley will not have a D grade this year

[woodublieve12]

There is no reason this proposed c grade division should go ahead.... If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

[finn]

There is no reason this proposed c grade division should go ahead.... If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

As someone who has played, coached and umpired in both versions (promotion/relegation and reflective gradings over too many years and from c6-c1) the system is broke and does need fixing if only to get those sides with c and d grades together rather than having them in a programming nightmare - eg last year with princes c2 and c6, uni in c1, c2, c4, mitcham c3 and c6, golden grove c4 (or c3) and c6. It needs fixing when you have sides like flinders park (c3, c6) winning 2010 c2 and heading down to c3 and with winning margins blowing out ridiculously.

It's worth a try to get clubs with three teams and, often, sides of similar abilities together as it is getting c and d grades playing together both home and away and making it easier to organise trainers, managers, umpires etc.

People complain that they may be outclassed but they may also discover that the average standard doesn't differ dramatically from c5 to c1 with only the outliers proving different. A good c5 team would have pummelled the bottom c1 sides from this year.

Let's give it a go - I'd expect div 8 to be an open grade at this stage with Princes, Broadview, SMOSH and Flinders Park in it at the moment.

[woodublieve12]

There is no reason this proposed c grade division should go ahead.... If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

As someone who has played, coached and umpired in both versions (promotion/relegation and reflective gradings over too many years and from c6-c1) the system is broke and does need fixing if only to get those sides with c and d grades together rather than having them in a programming nightmare - eg last year with princes c2 and c6, uni in c1, c2, c4, mitcham c3 and c6, golden grove c4 (or c3) and c6. It needs fixing when you have sides like flinders park (c3, c6) winning 2010 c2 and heading down to c3 and with winning margins blowing out ridiculously.

It's worth a try to get clubs with three teams and, often, sides of similar abilities together as it is getting c and d grades playing together both home and away and making it easier to organise trainers, managers, umpires etc.

People complain that they may be outclassed but they may also discover that the average standard doesn't differ dramatically from c5 to c1 with only the outliers proving different. A good c5 team would have pummelled the bottom c1 sides from this year.

Let's give it a go - I'd expect div 8 to be an open grade at this stage with Princes, Broadview, SMOSH and Flinders Park in it at the moment.

i still dont understand why ytou wouldnt want to keep div 3, 4, 5 clubs with c grade sides together??? which makes perfect sense... i have no interest of giving the new proposed format a go... because it doesnt really benefit anyone.

[TEX07]

There is no reason this proposed c grade division should go ahead.... If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

As someone who has played, coached and umpired in both versions (promotion/relegation and reflective gradings over too many years and from c6-c1) the system is broke and does need fixing if only to get those sides with c and d grades together rather than having them in a programming nightmare - eg last year with princes c2 and c6, uni in c1, c2, c4, mitcham c3 and c6, golden grove c4 (or c3) and c6. It needs fixing when you have sides like flinders park (c3, c6) winning 2010 c2 and heading down to c3 and with winning margins blowing out ridiculously.

It's worth a try to get clubs with three teams and, often, sides of similar abilities together as it is getting c and d grades playing together both home and away and making it easier to organise trainers, managers, umpires etc.

People complain that they may be outclassed but they may also discover that the average standard doesn't differ dramatically from c5 to c1 with only the outliers proving different. A good c5 team would have pummelled the bottom c1 sides from this year.

Let's give it a go - I'd expect div 8 to be an open grade at this stage with Princes, Broadview, SMOSH and Flinders Park in it at the moment.

I agree, Div 8 will be a tough competition, especialy for the lower sides like us. But I do like the concept, we will have both C and D grade at the same ground each week, easier on support staff and less chance of the forfiets that occur in some of the C grade comps each season. I am pretty sure we would prefer to be in this grade than the C grade comps. Will this grade work on the same 25 players as the C grade comps?

[FOURTH ESTATE]

There is no reason this proposed c grade division should go ahead.... If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

As someone who has played, coached and umpired in both versions (promotion/relegation and reflective gradings over too many years and from c6-c1) the system is broke and does need fixing if only to get those sides with c and d grades together rather than having them in a programming nightmare - eg last year with princes c2 and c6, uni in c1, c2, c4, mitcham c3 and c6, golden grove c4 (or c3) and c6. It needs fixing when you have sides like flinders park (c3, c6) winning 2010 c2 and heading down to c3 and with winning margins blowing out ridiculously.

It's worth a try to get clubs with three teams and, often, sides of similar abilities together as it is getting c and d grades playing together both home and away and making it easier to organise trainers, managers, umpires etc.

People complain that they may be outclassed but they may also discover that the average standard doesn't differ dramatically from c5 to c1 with only the outliers proving different. A good c5 team would have pummelled the bottom c1 sides from this year.

Let's give it a go - I'd expect div 8 to be an open grade at this stage with Princes, Broadview, SMOSH and Flinders Park in it at the moment.

i still dont understand why ytou wouldnt want to keep div 3, 4, 5 clubs with c grade sides together??? which makes perfect sense... i have no interest of giving the new proposed format a go... because it doesnt really benefit anyone.

Having played in both I would rather have both sides together. Look at the Big Picture and not your own back yard.

As stated you can still have triple headers!!!! Just work with the other team involved.

By having D8 & D8R it gives sides a chance to get into D7 and vice versa.

[Pag]

We'll again have a C & D Grade and will play in Div 8 if it goes ahead.

That would make us, PAOC, Broadview, SMOSH West Lakes, Golden Grove, Mitcham as the only confirmed clubs. Is this right?

[finn]

Given that Unley are looking for a d grade coach I'd expect them to fill another position making
Broadview
PAOC
Flinders Park
SMOSH
Mitcham
Salisbury
Golden Grove
Unley
in div 8

with Gepps Cross unconfirmed and

Seaton and Hope Valley as no.
So a possible 8-10 team competition that would suggest div 8 is a goer.

Of course, the above is based on the tentative gradings handed out by the league in December. It also looks like there would be a good level of competition. I'm also assuming that clubs would need to provide central umpires.

[S Demon]

Given that Unley are looking for a d grade coach I'd expect them to fill another position making
Broadview
PAOC
Flinders Park
SMOSH
Mitcham
Salisbury
Golden Grove
Unley
in div 8

with Gepps Cross unconfirmed and

Seaton and Hope Valley as no.
So a possible 8-10 team competition that would suggest div 8 is a goer.

Of course, the above is based on the tentative gradings handed out by the league in December. It also looks like there would be a good level of competition. I'm also assuming that clubs would need to provide central umpires.

You can probably add North Haven to the list now that a couple of spots have opened up

[marbles]

Boys flinders park are div 7, see league match fixture draft

[S Demon]

Possible Div 8

Broadview
PAOC
SMOSH
Mitcham
Salisbury
Golden Grove
Unley
North Haven

Gepps Cross unconfirmed
Seaton and Hope Valley are out