SAAFL Div 4 & 4R (2009)

[Jimmy_041]

[every boys dream]

Any reason why anyboyd would want to play with PAOC. Have thought about it and still can find a reason to play with the reds. Have nothing going for them. The amazing clubrooms and oval maybe and great facilities - ha ha

[teaoby]

not sure if it confirmed he's playing though, would hold up on ur info there jimmy

[Marngrook]

heard salisbury west are struggling a bit with quite a few players either leaving or seriously thinking about leaving......anyone else heard anything??



also heard that derek newchurch and chris caylun trained out there tonight[

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Not sure about Chris Calyun training but do know for sure that Derek & Kristian have been training at Salisbury West... I also heard that Shannon Goldsmith is training their this week! With Shannon, Derek & Kristian those three themselves are very good ins for Salisbury West.

[ray borner]

Got our ruckman

Which ex-SANFL quality ruckmen just started work with one of PAOC's major sponsors?

A Div 1 club is not happy

not sure if it confirmed he's playing though, would hold up on ur info there jimmy

Wakelin from goodwood perhaps

[Footy Chick]

nope..wayyyyy off...

[every boys dream]

Wakelin and King from South Adelaide will be rucking for Goodwood. Kendrick Tyrell returning from Norwood as well and will play at CHF or CHB. Why would Wakelin playing for a Amateur Club worry a Divvy 1 club, North discarded him anyway and went back to Goodwood. Makes no sense

[Footy Follower]

Massive Story!

Have just been speaking to a Division 1 umpire and he told me that the SAAFL is bringing in a new policy similiar too the SANFL. Basically all Amatuer league umpires who umpire Divison 1 and 2 will have to sign contracts and train twice a week to get the gig. If they don't than they will umpire as high as Division 3 and 4. This has apparently been put in place because of the excess umpires that will now be available because of the merge of the 17's and 19's in the SANFL.
Sounded good at first to me however, this umpire I have spoken too like alot of other Div 1 and 2 umpires can't commit to training twice a week because of other work commitments..........
He also said that him and about 10-20 other Umpires would refuse to drop from umpiring Div 1 and 2 down to div 4 etc, so therefore they will not umpire in the SAAFL, but rather go country or retire from umpiring.

He also said that you will get a lot of umpires who aren't really that good at Umpiring who will commit to the regulations and would then get the Div 1 games.

Not sure how this will play out, but should be interesting the standard of umpiring we will have next year!

[teaoby]

umpires............ no comment

[Footy Chick]

Massive Story!

Have just been speaking to a Division 1 umpire and he told me that the SAAFL is bringing in a new policy similiar too the SANFL. Basically all Amatuer league umpires who umpire Divison 1 and 2 will have to sign contracts and train twice a week to get the gig. If they don't than they will umpire as high as Division 3 and 4. This has apparently been put in place because of the excess umpires that will now be available because of the merge of the 17's and 19's in the SANFL.
Sounded good at first to me however, this umpire I have spoken too like alot of other Div 1 and 2 umpires can't commit to training twice a week because of other work commitments..........
He also said that him and about 10-20 other Umpires would refuse to drop from umpiring Div 1 and 2 down to div 4 etc, so therefore they will not umpire in the SAAFL, but rather go country or retire from umpiring.

He also said that you will get a lot of umpires who aren't really that good at Umpiring who will commit to the regulations and would then get the Div 1 games.

Not sure how this will play out, but should be interesting the standard of umpiring we will have next year!

Not quite footy follower

without having the details in front of me, I'll try and explain:

They took a survey of umps and the main thing that stopped them from coming to training was work, family, study etc... they found they had a small group that could commit to training twice a week and undertake all the training programmes etc. They decided that these guys would be the ones that had the qualifications to umpire at the higher levels, ie: div 3 upwards.

Then there were the blokes who could only make it saturdays or couldn't commit to a training schedule or keep up their qualifications would be put into a group called "recreational" umps.

They also have plans for all club umps to partake in a basic umpiring course. The league does recognise that potential/actual bias does happen and are looking at curtailing this by club nominated umpires being assigned "non club" matches. ( I think this is a great idea)

Probably not the best explanation but hopefully you get the drift.

[Jimmy_041]

umpires............ no comment

Isn't that how you got into trouble at the end of the year....

[Jimmy_041]

They also have plans for all club umps to partake in a basic umpiring course. The league does recognise that potential/actual bias does happen and are looking at curtailing this by club nominated umpires being assigned "non club" matches. ( I think this is a great idea)

Probably not the best explanation but hopefully you get the drift.

About time - the only way around the club bias, whether real or percepted, is to have them umpire at neutral games. There is always the argument that they want to watch their team, but the League cannot operate without umpires, and the clubs have only themselves to blame for letting the abuse get so bad, a few years ago, to the point that nobody wants to umpire.

[Choccies]

They also have plans for all club umps to partake in a basic umpiring course. The league does recognise that potential/actual bias does happen and are looking at curtailing this by club nominated umpires being assigned "non club" matches. ( I think this is a great idea)

Probably not the best explanation but hopefully you get the drift.

About time - the only way around the club bias, whether real or percepted, is to have them umpire at neutral games. There is always the argument that they want to watch their team, but the League cannot operate without umpires, and the clubs have only themselves to blame for letting the abuse get so bad, a few years ago, to the point that nobody wants to umpire.

I knid of think umpiring non-club games is good in theory too.... but we have another post on this forum where the issue of North/South travel appears and I'm sure umpires would agree that a Golden Grove or Houghton umpire will not want to go umpire a Kenilworth/Flinders Uni/CLG game ? I could see that being a negative factor maybe ?

[Footy Chick]

I think to accommodate they would look at keeping a north/south/est/west thing.... you would think

[teaoby]

umpires............ no comment

Isn't that how you got into trouble at the end of the year....

your way off the mark there jimmy but nice try. i dont think Mr moller bothers himself with this dribble

[Choccies]

I think to accommodate they would look at keeping a north/south/est/west thing.... you would think

Well you'd hope so... Idea has merits though... Then again some stupid people still drive from North to work at Richmond and Edwardstown every day.........

[Footy Chick]

I think to accommodate they would look at keeping a north/south/est/west thing.... you would think

Well you'd hope so... Idea has merits though... Then again some stupid people still drive from North to work at Richmond and Edwardstown every day.........

HA! You're stupider, you drive further

[Choccies]

I think to accommodate they would look at keeping a north/south/est/west thing.... you would think

Well you'd hope so... Idea has merits though... Then again some stupid people still drive from North to work at Richmond and Edwardstown every day.........

HA! You're stupider, you drive further

yeah yeah........ At least I have no problems travelling when the season starts !!

[Bluedemon]

With the umpiring system they are looking at bringing in the young umpires that also do Independent will come in and help from the Division 3 level and then work there way up. The umpiring system has been worked with the help of the SANFL umpires director Shane Harris.

[hill]

Adam Pearce to Fitzroy(capt.at Uni last couple of years)maybe B.White from NAFC to join Josh Coulter would be 2 very good pick ups.