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Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:15 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Look Good In Leather wrote:
No, there is no requirement, but if the club chooses not to make an official statement then whatever speculation occurs is fair game.

There is no need to moderate discussion on it if the club is unwilling to clarify.

What the Brahma Lodge Football Club choose to do really has f*** all to any of, I'm sure they have their reasons to which they'll have to announce to their playing group and members.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:16 pm
by Nichdanmatt
who would want to be a coach,so many things can go wrong even with the best list,good luck wayne.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:17 pm
by Old Dog New Tricks
From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:22 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Nichdanmatt wrote:who would want to be a coach,so many things can go wrong even with the best list,good luck wayne.

I think you answered your own question.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:23 pm
by Mr Beefy
Old Dog New Tricks wrote:From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3

I'm sure @Beef couldn't care less if Schueffele only turned up on Saturdays

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:32 pm
by Q.
Does a sacked coach get paid out their contract?

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:50 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Q. wrote:Does a sacked coach get paid out their contract?

Ha, I've been wondering the same question, surely he does unless he hasn't fulfilled his obligations.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:56 pm
by Half Back Flanker
Old Dog New Tricks wrote:From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3


I was in Melbourne every second week which the committee was well aware of before the season started. I had 2 senior assistants which were to take training under my direction on that week which was agreed upon. Til last night.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:00 pm
by Old Dog New Tricks
Half Back Flanker wrote:
Old Dog New Tricks wrote:From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3


I was in Melbourne every second week which the committee was well aware of before the season started. I had 2 senior assistants which were to take training under my direction on that week which was agreed upon. Til last night.


As I said, stand to be corrected.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:05 pm
by Footy Chick
Half Back Flanker wrote:
Old Dog New Tricks wrote:From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3


I was in Melbourne every second week which the committee was well aware of before the season started. I had 2 senior assistants which were to take training under my direction on that week which was agreed upon. Til last night.


Magic words bolded. DO you mind me asking if they were they aware of this before you signed as coach though? I understand if you're not up for 20 questions... but at least someone is answering them.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:21 pm
by Half Back Flanker
Footy Chick wrote:
Half Back Flanker wrote:
Old Dog New Tricks wrote:From what I hear Beef, the fact it had to be done over the phone is symbolic of the problem in that his job has changed and he's in Melbourne from Monday to Friday. (Stand to be corrected) Tell me you'd be happy with schueffle only turning up on Saturdays and being 0-3


I was in Melbourne every second week which the committee was well aware of before the season started. I had 2 senior assistants which were to take training under my direction on that week which was agreed upon. Til last night.


Magic words bolded. DO you mind me asking if they were they aware of this before you signed as coach though? I understand if you're not up for 20 questions... but at least someone is answering them.


No my situation changed at the end of pre season. It was unfortunate but work had to come first.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:12 pm
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Q. wrote:Does a sacked coach get paid out their contract?

Ha, I've been wondering the same question, surely he does unless he hasn't fulfilled his obligations.


Would not making training sessions be not fulfilling his contract

Don't wanna offend anyone but I can see why brahma made the move unless they knew the coach may have been moving interstate when they appointed him

It can't be a great situation not having the coach at training and to then go 0-3 with a talented list turns the whispers into screams

I would imagine the assistant coaches wouldn't have looked to kindly either on doing all the 'hard yards' during the week only to take a back seat on a Saturday

Rightly or wrongly the head coach generally takes the brunt of the ups and downs and unfortunatly in this situation there are to many 'easy excuses' that a club can use for the poor results and there is one obvious excuse here

I'm sorry if this offends but it's just my opinion

Good luck to all parties in the future

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:18 pm
by heater31
With amateur sports coaching when circumstances change it can be difficult. Best to try and make it work but obviously the board felt it wasn't working. As stated earlier I have been involved with a sacking of a coach we tried as a board to come up with an alternative solution but in the end felt it wasn't going to work.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:51 pm
by TIRED TIGER
[quote="Demon Juke"]Was told yesterday that the Brahma lodge coach has had a change of employment and no longer he can make training. He just turns up on a saturday to coach, I didn't believe this but is this why Brahma have struggled so far if it is true.[/quot


Looks like your source was on the money Demon Juke

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:22 pm
by Yank Man
I've been on both sides, having to 'retire a coach' and getting sacked. It's never easy and frankly getting sacked made me a better coach. It taught me to work harder, get credentials and listen to the natives. I still have massive respect for the club that sacked me because they showed enormous character and did it to my face. I still pick up the Mail every Sunday and see how they are going. That was 10 years ago.

So credit to them, I've coached 2 premierships and been involved with 2 others since then. Thank you.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:25 pm
by Demon Juke
beef wrote:
Diknbones wrote:Zartan you are full of poo. Not sure where you get your info from but serious. If you going to talk crap at least be in the ball park.
Also 5 coaches since Payne left? I thought I couldn't count. Pffft..

I said 4 since payne left
Whelan (lasted a long time)
Schomann
Knowles
Whoevere is lucky enough to get the job now
Think that adds up to 4, better get my calculator


Was Azza coach for a while then quit.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:31 pm
by Bigshow82
Demon Juke wrote:
beef wrote:
Diknbones wrote:Zartan you are full of poo. Not sure where you get your info from but serious. If you going to talk crap at least be in the ball park.
Also 5 coaches since Payne left? I thought I couldn't count. Pffft..

I said 4 since payne left
Whelan (lasted a long time)
Schomann
Knowles
Whoevere is lucky enough to get the job now
Think that adds up to 4, better get my calculator


Was Azza coach for awhile then quiet

No he was going to coach the B grade but work commitments prevented him from doing so.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:38 pm
by Demon Juke
Has anybody been appointed for this week to coach Brahma or maybe CAREY might do for a week as he knows the unit's inside out!

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:03 am
by Robran
Demon Juke wrote:Has anybody been appointed for this week to coach Brahma or maybe CAREY might do for a week as he knows the unit's inside out!

Have heard Matty Leigh will do this week as for a coach to take over have heard of a couple of people but that's up to the lodge to tell all. Hopefully the club can find who they think will lead the club forward and move on. Will not be the great Carey though as he is going to peace for 6 weeks to help on his wife's family farm..

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:40 am
by Lightning McQueen
Robran wrote:
Demon Juke wrote:Has anybody been appointed for this week to coach Brahma or maybe CAREY might do for a week as he knows the unit's inside out!

Have heard Matty Leigh will do this week as for a coach to take over have heard of a couple of people but that's up to the lodge to tell all. Hopefully the club can find who they think will lead the club forward and move on. Will not be the great Carey though as he is going to peace for 6 weeks to help on his wife's family farm..

Do you know where I can send my resumé?