Edwardstown Moving to SFL

[zedman]

think you will find john the nps man is no longer the nps man as he sold out to crane distribution..

[Jayne]

Correct Zedman, in very rough figs that sponsorship went from $20k in 2007 [& many years prior to that] to $5k in 2008 and most likely FA in 2009.

Money poor yes, volunteer poor very much so... Poor management I don't think so, it could be better maybe but the usual story of too much left to too few...

[zedman]

thx jayne..my only involvement with efc lately is through my son and playing against efc juniors..from that perspective efc is very very strong..on a sunday morning there are many many people active at the club..so i presume the juniors are probably going ok and are financial..as is the case at many clubs..where the seniors might be poor but the juniors well off

jayne: we are haunted by caleb daniel every year when we play efc, you must know of him im sure..the little lad with the helmet..so small but what a little gun..hold onto him mate!

[aceman]

Correct Zedman, in very rough figs that sponsorship went from $20k in 2007 [& many years prior to that] to $5k in 2008 and most likely FA in 2009.

Money poor yes, volunteer poor very much so... Poor management I don't think so, it could be better maybe but the usual story of too much left to too few...

Jayne, that is the same story with many other clubs but can't see what benefit there is in changing leagues unless affiliation fees are so much less than SAAFL to compensate for the $20K.
All clubs face the same issues with volunteers and expertise as coaches and administrators, Sponsors such as NPS are not easy to get but what will change for EFC in 2009 apart from a different league.

[The Big Shrek]

The above series of posts are way off the mark, ill-informed, naive and uneducated, you blokes are just guessing and speculating which is not the same as having an opinion. The decision was more to do with club survival, than a football decision, everyone down there is very keen...

We will finally be able to put a form line through SAAFL and SFL after Edwardstown compete in 2009...

You're a sook Jayne. Edwardstown can't attract supporters because it's a crap club, not because it's in a crap league. No other club has your problem. If you're expecting crowds like a Reynella v Morphett Vale Sunday game every week you are in for a shock!

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Having played aginst the Townies on/off for over 20years from SAFA to SAAFL I always found them to be a decent club and always got on well with them on & off the field.
They have found it hard in the SAAFL but they have the same gripes against the SAAFL that we all have. No need to repeat them but it's not hard to guess what they are.

If you look at their History most of their traditional rivalies are in the SFL going back to pre SAFA days.

The set up that they have is not bad and the club history that they have on display is second to none.

We all know the getting sponsors and volunteers is harder and harder each year and clubs must look at what they must do for survival.

Knowing some of the people involved with Edwardstown this would not have been an easy decision as they would have considered all the pros and cons of the move.

The SFL might just be a better fit for their club. Having seen only a couple of SFL games in my time they were well orgainsied and well attended. The SAAFL could learn a few things from the SFL in regards to promotion of the game. (EG: The Grand Final springs to mind)

As I have said for quite a while the SAAFL is too big with too many clubs and not enough players and volunteers to go around.

Do we need a new form of SAFA? With the amount of disenchanted clubs in the league and no where else to play it might be time to look at this scenario.
Might be time to start a thread on this subject.

[Jayne]

Very good post FE...

TBS you are a FOOL... Try something different think first and then type second... There are numerous reasons why the move is positive however trying to S-P-E-L-L them out to naive ogres like you would be a waste of time...

[ChocolateNBlue]

Are Edwardstown struggling that badly maybe that a considerable falling down through the grades is on the cards? And being the proud top division side that they have been for many years, it may be wiser to join the easier and cheaper SFL instead of bottoming out completely in the Amateur league? Something to think about.....

[The Cheese Eater]

only time will tell and if they have a clear plan for the future and they can get their soul back.....thats if they had one?????

[Pag]

Having played aginst the Townies on/off for over 20years from SAFA to SAAFL I always found them to be a decent club and always got on well with them on & off the field.
They have found it hard in the SAAFL but they have the same gripes against the SAAFL that we all have. No need to repeat them but it's not hard to guess what they are.

If you look at their History most of their traditional rivalies are in the SFL going back to pre SAFA days.

The set up that they have is not bad and the club history that they have on display is second to none.

We all know the getting sponsors and volunteers is harder and harder each year and clubs must look at what they must do for survival.

Knowing some of the people involved with Edwardstown this would not have been an easy decision as they would have considered all the pros and cons of the move.

The SFL might just be a better fit for their club. Having seen only a couple of SFL games in my time they were well orgainsied and well attended. The SAAFL could learn a few things from the SFL in regards to promotion of the game. (EG: The Grand Final springs to mind)

As I have said for quite a while the SAAFL is too big with too many clubs and not enough players and volunteers to go around.

Do we need a new form of SAFA? With the amount of disenchanted clubs in the league and no where else to play it might be time to look at this scenario.
Might be time to start a thread on this subject.

FE, how will forming a new SAFA help? There's still going to be the same amount of football clubs around, looking for the same amount of volunteers and sponsors.

And we don't get to play our traditional rivals all that much anymore (Salisbury North is the first that springs to mind), but there's no reason why clubs can't form new 'rivalries'. The games we have played vs Para Hills in the last two years, although they're not considered our 'traditional' rivals, have felt more like a derby/showdown that any games I've played, including Salisbury West.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Are Edwardstown struggling that badly maybe that a considerable falling down through the grades is on the cards? And being the proud top division side that they have been for many years, it may be wiser to join the easier and cheaper SFL instead of bottoming out completely in the Amateur league? Something to think about.....

Well of the field it appears that way,from what EFC faithful write on here the supporter base is declining over a perdiod of time. Good luck to them..........

[The Big Shrek]

Very good post FE...

TBS you are a FOOL... Try something different think first and then type second... There are numerous reasons why the move is positive however trying to S-P-E-L-L them out to naive ogres like you would be a waste of time...

More like you can't spell them out and you are just trying to pretend you have them. Sook somewhere else Jayne, that's Edwardstown's style. Can't hack it with the big boys so piss off to the SFL. I suggest you do the same.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Having played aginst the Townies on/off for over 20years from SAFA to SAAFL I always found them to be a decent club and always got on well with them on & off the field.
They have found it hard in the SAAFL but they have the same gripes against the SAAFL that we all have. No need to repeat them but it's not hard to guess what they are.

If you look at their History most of their traditional rivalies are in the SFL going back to pre SAFA days.

The set up that they have is not bad and the club history that they have on display is second to none.

We all know the getting sponsors and volunteers is harder and harder each year and clubs must look at what they must do for survival.

Knowing some of the people involved with Edwardstown this would not have been an easy decision as they would have considered all the pros and cons of the move.

The SFL might just be a better fit for their club. Having seen only a couple of SFL games in my time they were well orgainsied and well attended. The SAAFL could learn a few things from the SFL in regards to promotion of the game. (EG: The Grand Final springs to mind)

As I have said for quite a while the SAAFL is too big with too many clubs and not enough players and volunteers to go around.

Do we need a new form of SAFA? With the amount of disenchanted clubs in the league and no where else to play it might be time to look at this scenario.
Might be time to start a thread on this subject.

FE, how will forming a new SAFA help? There's still going to be the same amount of football clubs around, looking for the same amount of volunteers and sponsors.

And we don't get to play our traditional rivals all that much anymore (Salisbury North is the first that springs to mind), but there's no reason why clubs can't form new 'rivalries'. The games we have played vs Para Hills in the last two years, although they're not considered our 'traditional' rivals, have felt more like a derby/showdown that any games I've played, including Salisbury West.

I'll ask one question, would you rather be a lets say be a club like Flagstaff Hill who for the best part of a long time have won sweet f.a in the SFL and I cant remember the last time they seriously challenged and played in a GF, Christies Beach,Hackham, Morphie Parks, Marion the list goes on (Late 90's for a couple). But hey they have rivalries..... to me rivalries are pointless, if your club has a choice to go places such as say Woodville South, Modbury and Eastern park over the past 10 years you would take that any day. Does Hackham have a reunion for when they beat Morphett Vale in rd 3 1995, do not think so, but I bet they would have a reunion if they dropped a division and won a premiership.......We are all here to win premierships..........Thats my opinion anyway.

[Esteban Vihaio]

I'll ask one question, would you rather be a lets say be a club like Flagstaff Hill who for the best part of a long time have won sweet f.a in the SFL and I cant remember the last time they seriously challenged and played in a GF, Christies Beach,Hackham, Morphie Parks, Marion the list goes on (Late 90's for a couple). But hey they have rivalries..... to me rivalries are pointless, if your club has a choice to go places such as say Woodville South, Modbury and Eastern park over the past 10 years you would take that any day. Does Hackham have a reunion for when they beat Morphett Vale in rd 3 1995, do not think so, but I bet they would have a reunion if they dropped a division and won a premiership.......We are all here to win premierships..........Thats my opinion anyway.

Of those clubs listed in the bottom six, only Hackham and Lonsdale couldn't make it to the top six in the next five years (which is the solidified presently as Cove, M/Vale, Valleys, Porties, Reynella, Brighton)

Noarlunga have been a powerhouse for many years and have strong junoirs
Marion was the featured bridesmade in the last nineties with one GF; Strong financially
Christies - Urban sprawl
Morphie Park - Under new management - Greatly impressed with their rebirth in 08, even if they had a weaker draw.
Aldinga - Start of a decent junior program and massive, massive urban sprawl

Dismissing rivalries ignores the AFL, SANFL, and thousand or so developed in the regional leagues. Tell me that Port doesn't lift for the crows, Norwood for Port, Scotch for PAC, Salisbury versus and of the million other salsbury clubs, and Brighton for M/Vale.

If you win an SFL flag, you've earned it far more than a club that has dropped back a grade and attracted a few new players. Each and every SFL club in the dominant six have spent a number of years in the wilderness in recent history before cultivating the right mix and reaping the rewards (plus a bit of urban sprawl never went astray).

That said, I've often argued for two divisions in the SFL and equally that the SFL has a number of flaws, but always remember, the SFL does a lot of things (not saying everything) better than the SAAFL!

[The Cheese Eater]

can we delete this forum and say good riddance..........

[Nearly Was]

Now that is official EFC have sent a letter re returning to SFL what happens re promotion and relegation? Any one have any news?

[Bluedemon]

Now that is official EFC have sent a letter re returning to SFL what happens re promotion and relegation? Any one have any news?

in which way are you asking Nearly Was?

[Footy Chick]

I think I might lock this thread, only because Im sick to death of everyone asking if there's any news every bloody 10 minutes

Due to nominations not closing for another week, the league will then have to try and rework everything *with North Pines coming back in*. Interim divisions probably wont be out until November at least.

Im sure once we know it will be on here quick smart, so in the meantime, can we please stop asking the same old questions?

[The Bartman]

Is there any news on Edwardstown yet?

[Bluedemon]

Is there any news on Edwardstown yet?

if you keep this up poor Footy chick will explode, maybe that will be good thread to start, "When Will Footy Chick Explode?"