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Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:55 pm
by Q.
Yank Man wrote:
Q. wrote:My mail is that Salisbury West will get the numbers. I doubt that North Pines will.

Possible D7:

Adelaide Uni
Central United
Flinders Uni
Golden Grove
Modbury
Prince Alfred OC
St Pauls OS
Salisbury West
Tea Tree Gully
Unley


Modbury won 7 games in Div 8 and finished 6th. They have struggled in Div 7 before so I'd be staggered if they would want a return.

Modbury played finals in 2014.

But for the sake of leaving them out, you'd probably replace them with PNU, who probably have better internal structure and would be up for the challenge.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:39 pm
by Jimmy_041
PNU's C Grade losing by 100+ and D Grade winning every week?
That would expose their D Grade sandbaggers

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:42 pm
by wristwatcher
Jimmy_041 wrote:PNU's C Grade losing by 100+ and D Grade winning every week?
That would expose their D Grade sandbaggers


PAC down to Div 9 next year so they can win lower grade premierships.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:43 pm
by The Big Shrek
Disappointing effort by Salisbury if this is true. Wonder what the explanation is?

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:00 pm
by jo172
Jimmy_041 wrote:PNU's C Grade losing by 100+ and D Grade winning every week?
That would expose their D Grade sandbaggers


Sometging something Peter Walsh

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:02 pm
by jo172
The Big Shrek wrote:Disappointing effort by Salisbury if this is true. Wonder what the explanation is?


When is the last time that every grade has abided by the traditional promotion and relegation? Feels like over the last half decade it's become a circus of certain clubs deciding where they want to play

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:12 pm
by Footy Chick
I have a feeling it's not so much Salisbury putting their foot down to stay down but taking an opportunity because Seaton wanted to stay up.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:49 pm
by Jetters
Q. wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
Q. wrote:My mail is that Salisbury West will get the numbers. I doubt that North Pines will.

Possible D7:

Adelaide Uni
Central United
Flinders Uni
Golden Grove
Modbury
Prince Alfred OC
St Pauls OS
Salisbury West
Tea Tree Gully
Unley


Modbury won 7 games in Div 8 and finished 6th. They have struggled in Div 7 before so I'd be staggered if they would want a return.

Modbury played finals in 2014.

But for the sake of leaving them out, you'd probably replace them with PNU, who probably have better internal structure and would be up for the challenge.

We wouldn't want to go up to Div 7 IMO.

Our C's won it, but had close games all year and our D grade got pumped and struggled for numbers particularly as the year went on.

What would be the point of going up and risking 30 players from our footy club by exacerbating this issue? Promotion and relegation with the C and D grade sides shouldn't work the same as the A and B. A club with teams that would be competitive in both 7 and 7R would be better suited.

edit.... if we picked up more depth and would be competitive in 7R it would be different.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:06 pm
by wonder_kid
Giving clubs a "choice " of what div they play makes a mockery of the promotion relegation system! If you make the gf you should go up if you finish in the relegation zone you go down its as simple as that! I understand special circumstances will happen from time to time but having teams choose their division every year is a joke! I actually applaud kilburn for sticking it out in div3 !

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:09 pm
by wonder_kid
Footy Chick wrote:I have a feeling it's not so much Salisbury putting their foot down to stay down but taking an opportunity because Seaton wanted to stay up.


Why does Seaton wanting to stay up mean anything they finished 9th and should be in div 4 sailsbury finished 2nd and should be in div 3 end of story

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:24 pm
by Q.
Jetters wrote:
Q. wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
Q. wrote:My mail is that Salisbury West will get the numbers. I doubt that North Pines will.

Possible D7:

Adelaide Uni
Central United
Flinders Uni
Golden Grove
Modbury
Prince Alfred OC
St Pauls OS
Salisbury West
Tea Tree Gully
Unley


Modbury won 7 games in Div 8 and finished 6th. They have struggled in Div 7 before so I'd be staggered if they would want a return.

Modbury played finals in 2014.

But for the sake of leaving them out, you'd probably replace them with PNU, who probably have better internal structure and would be up for the challenge.

We wouldn't want to go up to Div 7 IMO.

Our C's won it, but had close games all year and our D grade got pumped and struggled for numbers particularly as the year went on.

What would be the point of going up and risking 30 players from our footy club by exacerbating this issue? Promotion and relegation with the C and D grade sides shouldn't work the same as the A and B. A club with teams that would be competitive in both 7 and 7R would be better suited.

edit.... if we picked up more depth and would be competitive in 7R it would be different.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that D7R is a pretty weak comp. The B-grades in it have often struggled against the D-grades.

Also, with it likely that D7 will cap at 21 players, it will only make the D-grades stronger again.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:17 pm
by Jimmy_041
jo172 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:PNU's C Grade losing by 100+ and D Grade winning every week?
That would expose their D Grade sandbaggers


Sometging something Peter Walsh


$hit, forgot about him. At 39, he shouldnt have been playing in our E Grade. Not fair on PNU
At least I played D Grade at 55
Sandbagger.......

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:21 pm
by wristwatcher
Jimmy_041 wrote:
jo172 wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:PNU's C Grade losing by 100+ and D Grade winning every week?
That would expose their D Grade sandbaggers


Sometging something Peter Walsh


$hit, forgot about him. At 39, he shouldnt have been playing in our E Grade. Not fair on PNU
At least I played D Grade at 55
Sandbagger.......


You wore the outfit that much I will agree with but please don't insult us by saying what you did was play football. :lol:

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:36 am
by BigB
Div 8 is pure C&D comp... Unley unlikely to seek promotion as we want to play our C's and D's amonst other similar clubs for a whole heap of valid reasons.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:46 am
by Q.
It would be a farce if the D8 premier weren't put in a D7 comp with a majority C/D grades.

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:52 am
by jo172
BigB wrote:Div 8 is pure C&D comp... Unley unlikely to seek promotion as we want to play our C's and D's amonst other similar clubs for a whole heap of valid reasons.


I think there's a reasonable chance that D8 will not exist or will be in a radically different form next year. I would be very unsurprised if the top 6-7 teams in Div 8 in 2015 aren't in D7 with Flinders Uni etc in 2016. If Unley wants to play against clubs in a similar position's C Grade I dare say they'll (i.e TTG, PAOC, Old Iggies, PNU) be more than likely to be in D7

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:18 am
by S Demon
Footy Chick wrote:I have a feeling it's not so much Salisbury putting their foot down to stay down but taking an opportunity because Seaton wanted to stay up.

Why do Seaton even get that choice?

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:27 am
by Executive Member
S Demon wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:I have a feeling it's not so much Salisbury putting their foot down to stay down but taking an opportunity because Seaton wanted to stay up.

Why do Seaton even get that choice?


From the Rule & Regs as approved by the clubs each year

37.5 Either of the Member Clubs playing in the Grand Final may choose not to be promoted in the following season provided that such an option has not been exercised by that Member Club in the previous season and that a Member Club occupying either of the lowest two positions on the premiership table at the end of the minor round of matches in the Division above the Member Clubs to be promoted chooses to remain in the same Division for the following season provided such Member Club has not exercised this option in the previous season

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:34 am
by Footy Chick
Ah, the old rule 37.5 trick! ;)

Re: 2016 gradings

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:29 am
by S Demon
Executive Member wrote:
S Demon wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:I have a feeling it's not so much Salisbury putting their foot down to stay down but taking an opportunity because Seaton wanted to stay up.

Why do Seaton even get that choice?


From the Rule & Regs as approved by the clubs each year

37.5 Either of the Member Clubs playing in the Grand Final may choose not to be promoted in the following season provided that such an option has not been exercised by that Member Club in the previous season and that a Member Club occupying either of the lowest two positions on the premiership table at the end of the minor round of matches in the Division above the Member Clubs to be promoted chooses to remain in the same Division for the following season provided such Member Club has not exercised this option in the previous season

So it was Salisbury's choice then first of all, then Seaton agreed to stay up? That's different to what FC's post was alluding to