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Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:26 pm
by cossi11
Robb_Stark wrote:Tim Aloisi gets the ball simple as that he is switched on has pace but can be ran down he is a dangerous forward line player

i rate Ashby more he has the skill to destroy div 6 can play midfield or forward lines either way take a decent player to shut both down and still would struggle

IMO Ashby is a better all round footballer as you can play him in the midfield or up forward and he is very damaging. Aloisi's strengths lie in the forward line which is why he mainly plays up there and generally delivers.

Is Ashby playing more of a midfield role with spells up forward or in the forward line with spells on the ball? If Ashby is spending more time up forward then I wouldn't be surprised to see these guys go top 2 in the goal kicking, although playing in the midfield has never stopped Ashby kicking bags of goals before.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:34 pm
by Arch44
Am I understanding right that if Ingle Farms Cgrade have another incident that their A and B grade will lose all points? That would make the Agrade coach a touch on the nervous side I would of thought? Almost worth pulling the Cgrade out.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:40 pm
by Footy Chick
I believe the penalties were revealed on Monday night at the delegates meeting and were quite hefty.

Please keep discussion respectful.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:50 pm
by human_torpedo
Real stiff if the whole club loses points for the C grades actions.. I would be genuinely filthy as an A/B grader if I lost my points for the C grades actions, would drive a serious divide in the club wouldn't it?

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:55 pm
by Footy Chick
That's the whole point.

If clubs don't bother weeding out the bad seeds, the whole club will suffer in the end. How many times can bad seeds stuff up before a club says "piss off, we don't want you here"

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:07 pm
by The Bedge
Club would rather not comment on the matter..

"Six (6) Premiership points deducted from all Ingle Farm Football Club senior football teams should any Ingle Farm Football Club player, official or team be found guilty of a reportable offence including bringing the League into disrepute via the use of social media"

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:13 pm
by Footy Chick
Zartan wrote:Club would rather not comment on the matter..

"Six (6) Premiership points deducted from all Ingle Farm Football Club senior football teams should any Ingle Farm Football Club player, official or team be found guilty of a reportable offence including bringing the League into disrepute via the use of social media"



Thanks Zartan..understood.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:15 pm
by Arch44
Zartan wrote:Club would rather not comment on the matter..

"Six (6) Premiership points deducted from all Ingle Farm Football Club senior football teams should any Ingle Farm Football Club player, official or team be found guilty of a reportable offence including bringing the League into disrepute via the use of social media"


That's huge. And a bit of a grey area for bringing the "league in disrepute" that all comes down to interpretation.
Does that cover the women's team as well? It was mentioned of an all in brawl in that comp too although the clubs weren't named would hate it even more to lose 6 points because the women misbehave.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:26 pm
by morell
Agree Arch. And think it going too far RE social media stuff.

A persons social media account is exactly that, their social media account. You can't hold an entire club full of people responsible for a private individuals social media content. Would have thought it would be wise to keep it related to on field stuff - thin edge of the wedge and all that.

Also, as C and B Grade games are umpired by club umpires you would think there would be a little bit more discretion built into how "guilty of a reportable offence" is adjudicated. Would hate for all of the teams to lose their points because of an over zealous club umpire.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:07 pm
by Q.
Club umpires are on close watch, I believe one club umpire has been suspended and another is on notice.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:18 pm
by Look Good In Leather
Zartan wrote:Club would rather not comment on the matter..

"Six (6) Premiership points deducted from all Ingle Farm Football Club senior football teams should any Ingle Farm Football Club player, official or team be found guilty of a reportable offence including bringing the League into disrepute via the use of social media"


Wow!! no dissent will be allowed!

Soon to be renamed the North Korean Football League

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:19 pm
by Look Good In Leather
morell wrote:Agree Arch. And think it going too far RE social media stuff.

A persons social media account is exactly that, their social media account. You can't hold an entire club full of people responsible for a private individuals social media content. Would have thought it would be wise to keep it related to on field stuff - thin edge of the wedge and all that.


Yet they are holding an entire club full of people responsible for one individual's actions on a Saturday if someone happens to get reported.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:22 pm
by giffo
morell wrote:Agree Arch. And think it going too far RE social media stuff.

A persons social media account is exactly that, their social media account. You can't hold an entire club full of people responsible for a private individuals social media content. Would have thought it would be wise to keep it related to on field stuff - thin edge of the wedge and all that.

Also, as C and B Grade games are umpired by club umpires you would think there would be a little bit more discretion built into how "guilty of a reportable offence" is adjudicated. Would hate for all of the teams to lose their points because of an over zealous club umpire.

Yes they can. It's quite clearly stated in Appendix 12 of the SACFL Rules & Regulations. http://www.saafl.asn.au/uploads/Pages/p ... 1_2014.pdf
I know Lockleys & a few other clubs have their own policies in place as well.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:54 am
by Computer Crashed
Zartan wrote:Club would rather not comment on the matter..

"Six (6) Premiership points deducted from all Ingle Farm Football Club senior football teams should any Ingle Farm Football Club player, official or team be found guilty of a reportable offence including bringing the League into disrepute via the use of social media"

Thats just great.
Hats off to the individual.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:51 am
by no_remorse28
Is it true that Ingle Farm are having a crisis meeting tonight at training and might be closing the doors on the club coz they can't meet the list of expectations handed down from the league?

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:57 am
by morell
Look Good In Leather wrote:
morell wrote:Agree Arch. And think it going too far RE social media stuff.

A persons social media account is exactly that, their social media account. You can't hold an entire club full of people responsible for a private individuals social media content. Would have thought it would be wise to keep it related to on field stuff - thin edge of the wedge and all that.


Yet they are holding an entire club full of people responsible for one individual's actions on a Saturday if someone happens to get reported.
And therein lies the difference. Individual actions, on a Saturday, where they are representing the club.

You don't represent the club when you post on your individual Social Media accounts. Unless it's the official club account or something.

Ridiculous and draconian from the SAAFL - hope that isn't bringing it into disrepute. :roll:

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:04 am
by morell
giffo wrote:
morell wrote:Agree Arch. And think it going too far RE social media stuff.

A persons social media account is exactly that, their social media account. You can't hold an entire club full of people responsible for a private individuals social media content. Would have thought it would be wise to keep it related to on field stuff - thin edge of the wedge and all that.

Also, as C and B Grade games are umpired by club umpires you would think there would be a little bit more discretion built into how "guilty of a reportable offence" is adjudicated. Would hate for all of the teams to lose their points because of an over zealous club umpire.

Yes they can. It's quite clearly stated in Appendix 12 of the SACFL Rules & Regulations. http://www.saafl.asn.au/uploads/Pages/p ... 1_2014.pdf
I know Lockleys & a few other clubs have their own policies in place as well.
Having a guideline in place and a policy != removing points for an individual not following that guideline.

Think about the precedent this would create - employers, social groups and clubs being responsible for individuals posts on social media. Absolutely absurd and to be honest it reeks of people not understanding social media and trying to control and regulate it. More often than not, the organisations that do try and regulate it end up feeling the full force of its wrath.

Of course, official club accounts and pages which DO represent the entirety of the club are a different kettle of fish and should be held to a higher standard - which is what i am hoping this "ruling" is referring to.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:16 am
by Footy Chick
Morell wrote:Think about the precedent this would create - employers, social groups and clubs being responsible for individuals posts on social media. Absolutely absurd and to be honest it reeks of people not understanding social media and trying to control and regulate it. More often than not, the organisations that do try and regulate it end up feeling the full force of its wrath.




Too late, it already happens, our workplace have a very strict social media policy. I used to have a lot of work friends on FB, until one day i had a whinge about a particular customer and someone fed it back to my TM.

All work "friends" bar those I see out of work were subsequently dumped the next day.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:51 am
by Q.
Footy Chick wrote:
Morell wrote:Think about the precedent this would create - employers, social groups and clubs being responsible for individuals posts on social media. Absolutely absurd and to be honest it reeks of people not understanding social media and trying to control and regulate it. More often than not, the organisations that do try and regulate it end up feeling the full force of its wrath.




Too late, it already happens, our workplace have a very strict social media policy. I used to have a lot of work friends on FB, until one day i had a whinge about a particular customer and someone fed it back to my TM.

All work "friends" bar those I see out of work were subsequently dumped the next day.

SBS have sacked journalists for having an opinion on social media.

One of them is suing SBS now.

Re: Ch9 AFL Division 6 - 2015

PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:54 am
by The Bedge
Q. wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
Morell wrote:Think about the precedent this would create - employers, social groups and clubs being responsible for individuals posts on social media. Absolutely absurd and to be honest it reeks of people not understanding social media and trying to control and regulate it. More often than not, the organisations that do try and regulate it end up feeling the full force of its wrath.




Too late, it already happens, our workplace have a very strict social media policy. I used to have a lot of work friends on FB, until one day i had a whinge about a particular customer and someone fed it back to my TM.

All work "friends" bar those I see out of work were subsequently dumped the next day.

SBS have sacked journalists for having an opinion on social media.

One of them is suing SBS now.

Paid professionals though, not D6 or lower amateur footballers playing for the social/enjoyment aspect that is supposed to be the underlying reason people continue to play sport.