Seaton Ramblers Football Club Coaching

[pom pom]

A 'Players coach',not neccessarily a good coach. Yes the players have to want to play for their coach,also they should want to committ,train,be loyal and passionate on and off the field, not for their coach, but for their club! I think a Players Coach can be too much of a mate with his players when it comes to doing his job, so then is not RESPECTED if he is willing to or when he makes TOUGH DECISIONS. Seaton needs a professional,experienced coach who is willing to work hard and can handle the rigors of A1 footy.

[pom pom]

U are right SMAC,people will speculate mostly because LIES are more interesting and people like to big note that they know more than others and have nothing better to do with their mundane lives. Even if Hodges came out on national TV and got on every radio station in the land and told his specific reasons,some people would still not believe it.Those people would not believe a woman gave birth even if they watched it come out her vagina! To those people i say,When you have very personal issues do you turn to or tell EVERYONE at your footy club,at the pub or to some stranger at the mall? some things are not for everyones information just because of who you are and what you have achieved in life. Personal reasons should be enough!

[Andy #24]

No-one asked what Hodges personal reasons for leaving were. What was asked was a question about a specific rumour on Hodges asking players to stand up at presentation night and that not happening. This was not answered until Kinsmanclan explained the situation that gave birth to the rumour which satisfied me and I presume everyone else. As the rumour bore some semblance to the truth it must have passed through the hands of Seaton people at some stage. This was the incident which people were curious about. No-one ever inquired into Hodges' private life as some posts have suggested. These people need to get off their high horses and stop insinuating that everyone else is some lowlife nosy bugger.

[kinsmanclan]

We at Seaton need a coach of substance and profile. Lets face it - A1 Reserves football is about the same quality match
as an A4 game. Should we take on a Coach who is from our Reserves it would be the equal of an A4 Coach and simply not
good enough for the challenge that lies ahead in A1. Tank does a fantastic job with the B Grade team and gets on very
well with all of the players in that grade, he even did a great job as an Assistant to Hodges and his assistant "The Cougar"
Hosie, this year.

But Tank is simply not an A1 coach. Good and maybe great at A1 Reserves, but a vast difference in quality and the quality of the people you are coaching. We would hope to keep Tank as a Reserves coach and as a vital member of the A Grade Coaching panel, but simply not up to the job as Coach. The same goes for Hosie. He is a in a different role and not purely as a players teaching coach. His research and match ups of Opposition teams are sensational. During the year a group of us members wandered into the coaches room just to see the research done and it is amazing, but agan he is not a coach nor does he have a profile. Dont even think he wants it.

Dont know if either Tank or Hosie have put in for it, but certainly not them as the Senior Coach. Hope we can keep them both as the B Grade Coach and the other as the A Grade Assistant Coach, but I guess that comes down to what the new coach wants. From where I sit, lets hope they both stay with Seaton as both guys are excellent in the differing roles they do.

Hey - am not slagging either guy as both are excellent footy people - but just not as A1 Coaches. Hope they both stay though

[kinsmanclan]

Shit - just got a response from my drinking buddy at the club while I am at work. Got to hurry up while on tea break, so wont waste any time.

I am not having a go at Tank or Hosie. Get that straight - far from it. Both are fantastic at what they do and probably every club in A1 would like their services - JUST NOT AS AN A1 COACH. - SIMPLE

THE A1 COACH OF OUR CLUB NEEDS A PROFILE AND TO DRAW PLAYERS

Being liked by the players etc, etc, wears very thin when you lose games in the middle of year. Both guys are great at what they do (had to say that many times just to shut my wanker mate up) - but not as an A1 COACH. Have just heard from my mate as well that a number of people have put in for the job and Big Al is currently sorting through them.

Tank has applied, but said that he will Coach the B's if he misses out (which is great) and Hosie does not want to coach. He would consider staying on as the A Grade Assistant if all was OK, but has apparently not committed to anything at the moment. (Is waiting to see who gets the gig I think)

[agent86]

klinsmancan can tell you from a very reliable source that Tank will not coach the B grade next year

[kinsmanclan]

Hope your source is wrong Agent 86 as we would hate to lose Tank as the B Grade coach and an Assistant with the A's

He is good bloke and hopefully you are wrong. Need him to guide the B Grade youngsters to our future A Graders and I think he is good at that. Would not want to lose him. Is Tank also going to leave club Agent 86 or is he staying on.

My source at club is obviously wrong if you are that sure, but he is heavily involved with the cricket at club and seems to know whats going on during the summer.

[agent86]

I have had numerous conversations with him & he has indicated that he is looking for an A grade position it is for this reason he does not want to commit to doing the B grade if he commits to this & an A grade spot presents itself he would be letting the club down i think he is looking after the A grade at Seaton in the intrim whilst the club explores its coaching avenues there is a meeting at the club on Sunday 4/11 to discuss what direction the club is heading

[agent86]

i also agree that the best scenario for the club is to attract an experienced & profile coach that is capable of attracting quality players to the club not to sure how the club is situated with applicants at the moment.

[Pag]

Kinsmanclan, do you think it might be too late to get an A1 level coach in November? Most clubs have appointed A Grade coaches for next year already, might need a bit of luck trying to find a coach with connections in November, as they may already be taken.

[NO-MERCY]

Your right Pag,a bit of luck is what they need & sorry 2 say probably won't get.if they give themselves a time frame eg.Dec 14 & their B grade coach is happy enough 2 take the reins til then,hopefully in that 6wks luck will prevail.Kinsmanclan's eg with Mead from Gaza was a good one,Greg Phillips is out their i know of,why hasn't he been interviewed?He has alot of experience as coach & can recruit..

[kinsmanclan]

Football Magic and Pag - 4 years of the last 5 alone are all indicators that getting a coach by the end of October is not a prevailing factor. Year 2007 - Mead appointed in December and Gaza finished Minor Premier and eventually 2nd. Year 2006 - Trevor Hill a late appointment at Norwood and Trent Mills appointed at Goodwood Saints in early December. Finished Premiers. Year 2005 - Scott Hodges a late appointment at Henley in December and finished 3rd. Year 2003 - Wayne Weideman looking for League jobs and only a late appointment at Gaza in December. Finished Minor Premier and Premiership

Appears that December has a common touch to it in recent years and maybe the good form line to use a Spring Racing terminology.

Have seen many clubs appoint coaches in September and even August and then begin training with all the vigor of an AFL side as soon as the previous season finishes. What happens - the novelty of an Amateur Footballer wears off quickly and those who begin in October or early November are often jaded by the start of the year let alone at the end of 18 Home and Away matches, plus the 2 byes that the Amateur League has - so their Executives can give themselves a pat on the back and an interstate jaunt at the expense of the clubs, have their airfare, accommodation, meals, drinks, and everything else they want on their fact finding missions paid for by the clubs.

Funny how there is more officials going away than players most years - the fact is that most are only useful to carry someones bags in the first place. That practice of having 24 players and 30 officials is an absolute joke.

Sorry to get off the coaching subject but that practice from our fearless leaders really pisses me off.

[Andy #24]

Apparently Greg Phillips has been snapped up by Virginia.

[locky801]

Apparently Greg Phillips has been snapped up by Virginia.

Thought his name had been bandied around elsewhere

[NO-MERCY]

Seaton i believe had a meeting sunday re-coach,any news on the position?

[Newman]

Seaton i believe had a meeting sunday re-coach,any news on the position?

Was at the meeting Tank spoke very openly and honestly and and did a great job of letting players know that there is direction at the club. Answered all questions openly even questions that were irrelevant from someone that probably should not have been there!! Tank has taken over in the interim, club is still talking to a couple of higher profile coaches with a decision to be made shortly. I know tank is very organised and has mapped out his coaching plan if he gets the gig full time. Just a shame more players were not at the meeting.

[BUZZ]

Good to see Tank being given the oppurtunity. Dont agree with the interm stuff as if the club appoints another coach say in 4 weeks time, where will that leave the Tanker and his coaching vision?

[agent86]

I have spoken to Tank & he is aware of the situaton that you speak of Buzz but wants the club to explore every avenue available to make sure that the players get the best possible candidate available if at the end of the day that is him then he would be more than happy at the moment he just wants to show the players that they do have some-one at the helm to lead in the interim

[NO-MERCY]

As the only A grade job going at the moment i can see where he's coming from,get on side with everyone,get in their faces,as they havn't any candidates 2 pick from & they have no other avenues 2 explore.It doesn't make it the right decision,but he's in the box seat & knows it.

[kinsmanclan]

That is a very ordinary comment Footballmagic about Tank. There is an implication with your comments that Tank is holding the club to ransom to some degree. Simply dont agree with your comments and frankly think they are very ordinary and a fair character assasination of Tank.

Whilst I have openly stated as a passionate Seaton supporter that a Higher Profile Coach should be found and that I firmly believe that Tank or The Cougar are not A1 Coaches nor do they have the profile, I think those comments ordinary. Tank is a fantastic guy and would not hold the club with a revolver to its head like that. A retraction of your comments should be forthcoming unless you actually know the bloke, which you obviously dont.

I would like in the perfect world that both Tank and Cougar will stay on to that hopefully HIGHER PROFILE COACH.
That would be our ultimate best combination I think. The only Seaton based person who I think could coach the club successfully and does not have a huge profile is Paul Marshall and would hope he could be groomed to take over in the next few years. You can just see from watching the players in the club that Marshall and young Sean Coard are the players who are the ones everyone looks up to, although young Coard is years away from that responsibility.