Best and Fairest? How does your club run it?

[The Ash Man]

our club best and fairest who won by a country mile only got one more vote in the association medal than our captain who didnt even finish in the top 10 in our b & f. i think this says more about the way umpires give votes. they give votes to players they know eg captains rather than the best players on the day. another great example of this was kevin hopper winning the association medal in Div 3 last yr and not fairing very well in his clubs b & f. so who has got it wrong? the clubs or the association/umpires?

D Pearce for us finished 3rd in the association and didn't finish in our top 5 last year. I won the B & F in 2006 and got 4 votes in the association!! It does make you wonder sometimes. Coaches and footy directors don't always hear what might or might not be said to umpires out on the field as well which can influence there voting...

Dropped that in there quite nicely SD!!

[Pag]

our club best and fairest who won by a country mile only got one more vote in the association medal than our captain who didnt even finish in the top 10 in our b & f. i think this says more about the way umpires give votes. they give votes to players they know eg captains rather than the best players on the day. another great example of this was kevin hopper winning the association medal in Div 3 last yr and not fairing very well in his clubs b & f. so who has got it wrong? the clubs or the association/umpires?

D Pearce for us finished 3rd in the association and didn't finish in our top 5 last year. I won the B & F in 2006 and got 4 votes in the association!! It does make you wonder sometimes. Coaches and footy directors don't always hear what might or might not be said to umpires out on the field as well which can influence there voting...

And the fact that the association medals are midfielders awards due to the amount of possessions. Our B Grade full-back has won 2 out of our last 3 B&Fs and yet only got one or two association votes for those years combined.

B&Fs are always more accurate than Association Medals.

[zedman]

If there are 3 cards to be done, then the coach and team manager should both get one. The third card should be done by someone reliable aswell - runner or assistant coach. Definately not given to just anyone.

i agree with felch, the three that should get it are the coach, assistant coach,team manager or even the runner. these are the guys closest to the action and its unbias.
i think thats how we do it, coach, assistant coach and team manager i think

agree hounds..we go coach,assistant and runner/team manager..5,4,3,2,1 x 3 cards..no bias and the best men to choose it..any other way is open to manipulation

[Scorpion]

If there are 3 cards to be done, then the coach and team manager should both get one. The third card should be done by someone reliable aswell - runner or assistant coach. Definately not given to just anyone.

i agree with felch, the three that should get it are the coach, assistant coach,team manager or even the runner. these are the guys closest to the action and its unbias.
i think thats how we do it, coach, assistant coach and team manager i think

agree hounds..we go coach,assistant and runner/team manager..5,4,3,2,1 x 3 cards..no bias and the best men to choose it..any other way is open to manipulation

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

[S Demon]

If there are 3 cards to be done, then the coach and team manager should both get one. The third card should be done by someone reliable aswell - runner or assistant coach. Definately not given to just anyone.

i agree with felch, the three that should get it are the coach, assistant coach,team manager or even the runner. these are the guys closest to the action and its unbias.
i think thats how we do it, coach, assistant coach and team manager i think

agree hounds..we go coach,assistant and runner/team manager..5,4,3,2,1 x 3 cards..no bias and the best men to choose it..any other way is open to manipulation

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

I'm gonna leave that one alone...

[Scorpion]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?[/quote]

I'm gonna leave that one alone... [/quote]

Come on sdemon, not like you not to have an opinion
I'd appreciate yours and any other comments on the subject.....

[mighty burras]

If there are 3 cards to be done, then the coach and team manager should both get one. The third card should be done by someone reliable aswell - runner or assistant coach. Definately not given to just anyone.

i agree with felch, the three that should get it are the coach, assistant coach,team manager or even the runner. these are the guys closest to the action and its unbias.
i think thats how we do it, coach, assistant coach and team manager i think

agree hounds..we go coach,assistant and runner/team manager..5,4,3,2,1 x 3 cards..no bias and the best men to choose it..any other way is open to manipulation

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

no!

[S Demon]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

I'm gonna leave that one alone...

Come on sdemon, not like you not to have an opinion
I'd appreciate yours and any other comments on the subject.....

Well it depends on how involved she is as a team manager. Is she there purely to do the admin side of things and all the other stuff team managers do, or does she have a genuine interest in the game and understand the ins and outs of a game of football? It would depend on the person i guess. some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either...

[Scorpion]

agree hounds..we go coach,assistant and runner/team manager..5,4,3,2,1 x 3 cards..no bias and the best men to choose it..any other way is open to manipulation[/quote]
Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?[/quote]
no![/quote]
What about men that have never played the game - is that the same answer oh mighty one?

[Scorpion]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

I'm gonna leave that one alone...

Come on sdemon, not like you not to have an opinion
I'd appreciate yours and any other comments on the subject.....

Well it depends on how involved she is as a team manager. Is she there purely to do the admin side of things and all the other stuff team managers do, or does she have a genuine interest in the game and understand the ins and outs of a game of football? It would depend on the person i guess. some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either...

You'd imagine if they were doing the job they'd have some sort of interest in the game?

[hawkseye]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

I'm gonna leave that one alone...

Come on sdemon, not like you not to have an opinion
I'd appreciate yours and any other comments on the subject.....

Well it depends on how involved she is as a team manager. Is she there purely to do the admin side of things and all the other stuff team managers do, or does she have a genuine interest in the game and understand the ins and outs of a game of football? It would depend on the person i guess. some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either...

You'd imagine if they were doing the job they'd have some sort of interest in the game?

Good luck sdemon

[S Demon]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

I'm gonna leave that one alone...

Come on sdemon, not like you not to have an opinion
I'd appreciate yours and any other comments on the subject.....

Well it depends on how involved she is as a team manager. Is she there purely to do the admin side of things and all the other stuff team managers do, or does she have a genuine interest in the game and understand the ins and outs of a game of football? It would depend on the person i guess. some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either...

You'd imagine if they were doing the job they'd have some sort of interest in the game?

Yes you would think so. I don't think gender is an issue at all like i just said in my previous post "some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either". I guess the individual would know if their opinion is wanted when they do or don't get handed a voting card. Whether they're male or female is irrelevant

[hawkseye]

Well answered sdemon

[BurraBoys]

Coach, Assistant, Manager and a random (potentially the opposition coach if he is willing to oblige) 5,4,3,2,1.

We are thinking of running a players player this year. Each playing player gets one vote per game. Cant vote for yourself. Isnt necessarily a best on ground but a most deserving. Eg: A young lad steps up from the B's and does a good tagging job or a player that performs a number of selfless acts. Its an award to represent the character and ethos of the team.

[carey]

5,4,3,2,1 def. the best way to do it as it rewards the bloke that plays that same game everyweek might not be BOG but you know he'll play that same game every week !

[Bold Strategy]

jr's is the worse, in 2006 for the association best and fairest a bloke from para hills (came near last that yr) came 2nd, played as feral as u get barely got the ball, he threw more punches then possiesons he got, think he polled 3 or 2 votes when we beat them by 20 goals

also back in u/14s we had a player who dominated like anything u ever seen didnt poll a votes in ass. and got about 50 votes in club, same year i got more votes in ass. then i did in the club b&f...parents voting doesnt work especially in jr

[carey18]

PFFT Never rated individual awards as it is a team game. not that Dutchy would no

[carey]

no ' i ' in team hendo ..........

[human blanket #3]

our club best and fairest who won by a country mile only got one more vote in the association medal than our captain who didnt even finish in the top 10 in our b & f. i think this says more about the way umpires give votes. they give votes to players they know eg captains rather than the best players on the day. another great example of this was kevin hopper winning the association medal in Div 3 last yr and not fairing very well in his clubs b & f. so who has got it wrong? the clubs or the association/umpires?

wouldnt matter what voting system heccies used last year. leak was always going to win

agree on team managers giving votes since my dad is our team manager. let the votes roll in!

[Scorpion]

Whats your opinion if it is a woman team manager? Do they know as much or have enough knowledge in your opinion?

Well it depends on how involved she is as a team manager. Is she there purely to do the admin side of things and all the other stuff team managers do, or does she have a genuine interest in the game and understand the ins and outs of a game of football? It would depend on the person i guess. some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either...

You'd imagine if they were doing the job they'd have some sort of interest in the game?

Yes you would think so. I don't think gender is an issue at all like i just said in my previous post "some male team managers aren't exactly the best option for giving out votes either". I guess the individual would know if their opinion is wanted when they do or don't get handed a voting card. Whether they're male or female is irrelevant

OK, fair enough. Perhaps it's me that has the gender bias?! Not sure why Hawkseye had to poke his head in that one. Maybe he would like to offer his opinion. Or maybe he will just put a smiley in, that seems to be all he does lately - maybe he's being censored? Or maybe he has nothing intelligent to say?