SAAFL Points System

[Footy Chick]

but wouldn't the college be classed as it's junior side therefore not incurring any points anyway (provided the kid didn't play ammo juniors)

[aceman]

Would need to know hoe it would apply for College sides. For a college side for instance that doesnt pay players and then be over the points, it defeats the whole purpose. For instance SHOC or a Uni who dont pay, but have a fair few players with League experience, how would it work?

I had a discussion with someone from SAAFL about how it would affect college sides

He said that if the club declares itself purely amateur, the points system would not apply to that club

Oh Jimmy, that's leaving the door ajar a tad! So no best player vouchers in excess of $200.00 per game over ?? teams etc?
That's just adding fuel to the fire IMO

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A certain person just pm'd me and asked if the little caption was Kilburn's new restaurant.
What's he on about do you think?

[Footy Chick]

There's a line there, but I ain't using it

[aceman]

There's a line there, but I ain't using it

You've no doubt been watching too much 'Hey Hey it's Saturday' Part 2.

[aceman]

Would need to know hoe it would apply for College sides. For a college side for instance that doesnt pay players and then be over the points, it defeats the whole purpose. For instance SHOC or a Uni who dont pay, but have a fair few players with League experience, how would it work?

I had a discussion with someone from SAAFL about how it would affect college sides

Get much good news?

[Jimmy_041]

Just telling you what he said - not what I think

As far as I am concerned, and I have said it before, I would suggest someone who comes from our school would be 0 points but we would suffer the points on outsiders like everyone else.

Plus, if they played juniors at a district club, they qualify for 0 points for them - and why not - it means they have played 2 games per weekend. Going to be good for PNU and Walkerville who get a lot of college kids playing for them

[Iron Fist]

Just telling you what he said - not what I think

As far as I am concerned, and I have said it before, I would suggest someone who comes from our school would be 0 points but we would suffer the points on outsiders like everyone else.

Plus, if they played juniors at a district club, they qualify for 0 points for them - and why not - it means they have played 2 games per weekend. Going to be good for PNU and Walkerville who get a lot of college kids playing for them

Henley will be the same, ahving kids play college saturdays and club sundays.

[Rotter]

Would need to know hoe it would apply for College sides. For a college side for instance that doesnt pay players and then be over the points, it defeats the whole purpose. For instance SHOC or a Uni who dont pay, but have a fair few players with League experience, how would it work?

I had a discussion with someone from SAAFL about how it would affect college sides

He said that if the club declares itself purely amateur, the points system would not apply to that club

That is how I understand it. Full amateur status would have that club free of the points system.

[carey]

there is only 1 way a point system will work in the SAAFL and that is if the powers that be at bullsh!t castle sit down with THE CLUBS and listen for a change and work out a system that is workable across the board.

p.s i'm not against the idea either.

just my 2 cents anyway!.........................

[Jimmy_041]

It will stop clubs going out and spending $100k to win a premiership

[Pag]

If this happens, there can't be any 'purely amateur' label on any club. If a club is 'purely amateur', it's highly unlikely they're going to get 4 or 5 ex-league footballers lob on their doorstep anyway. The same rules have to go for each club in a division or they may as well leave it as it is.

For the college sides, if a player went to the school and played footy there on Saturdays as a kid, then they should be called a junior and worth 0, same as juniors for any other club.

[Felch]

It will stop clubs going out and spending $100k to win a premiership

F@#k, did you blokes spend that much ? I thought it was no more than $80k...

[Jimmy_041]

It will stop clubs going out and spending $100k to win a premiership

F@#k, did you blokes spend that much ? I thought it was no more than $80k...

Fortunately it cost me just a little bit less than that on GF night when I promised to buy every premiership player beer for the night. Lucky it was Coopers so i got a discount

[Benchwarmer]

The system has worked well in the WAFL this year - made the comp much more interesting. Clubs can flash the coin but more importantly they have to work on list maintenance. The WAFL system is different to pretty much every other comp in that they have the points allocated up front pre-season and if they recruit guys during the season they have to maintain their status under the 130 point barrier.

IIRC, the WAFL system for clubs in '09 had 130 points spread across its nominated 55-man list. 10 for ex-AFL players not going to original club down to 1 for local-bred player. The main penalty affect a club for 3 years if they get caught - it includes no external recruiting from outside their zone for 2 years and a 120-point cap with recruiting rights for the third season before returning to 130 an a level playing field the next year. So much fairer and less stockpiling of talent at the expense of locals.

I would assume that the system for multi-team clubs like the SAAFL have would apply on a weekly basis (like most leagues do) per side. Makes it fair enough and helps clubs to reduce overspending for a flag at the expense of long-term viability.

[Pag]

The system has worked well in the WAFL this year - made the comp much more interesting. Clubs can flash the coin but more importantly they have to work on list maintenance. The WAFL system is different to pretty much every other comp in that they have the points allocated up front pre-season and if they recruit guys during the season they have to maintain their status under the 130 point barrier.

IIRC, the WAFL system for clubs in '09 had 130 points spread across its nominated 55-man list. 10 for ex-AFL players not going to original club down to 1 for local-bred player. Penalties for going over included no external recruiting from outside their zone for 3 years and a 120-point cap for the first season "back in the loop". So much fairer and less stockpiling of talent at the expense of locals.

I would assume that the system for multi-team clubs like the SAAFL have would apply on a weekly basis (like most leagues do) per side. Makes it fair enough and helps clubs to reduce overspending for a flag at the expense of long-term viability.

Seems like the WAFL have a good system going over there, so teams can't load up with too many ex-AFL players. The points systems over here are only for A Grade sides, won't have any implications for B/C/D Grades.

[The Real Number 3]

How would teams that have no juniors, that aren't college sides, fare?

[The Yetti]

How would teams that have no juniors, that aren't college sides, fare?

It might help them decide to get juniors.

[The Real Number 3]

Well for us (Paralowie) it is hard when you have Salis Nth, Nth Pines, Salis West and Salisbury all within 5kms from one another. And you have a look at Salis Nth and Salisburys facilities, there is no way our club can compete.

Edit: Brahma Lodge too, just around the corner.

[The Real Number 3]

No doubt we'll just get f*cked over again by the SAAFL.

[Jimmy_041]

No doubt we'll just get f*cked over again by the SAAFL.

You would probably find that you wouldnt go over the points now. Its when you go buying is when it hurts, but yes, it does strongly encourage a junior programme