Tribunal and other matters

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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Q. » Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 am

Footy Chick wrote:
This rule has it's merits but just like anything else, possibly needs a tweak but also needs to have set boundaries.



Agree. The ban system has merit, but games shouldn't be allowed to accumulate indefinitely. Similar to how our driver's license demerit point accumulate and expire, so should any tribunal penalties.

ie. I get suspended for 6 games for head-butting today - May 26th, 2010. That 6 games supension rolls out of my accumulation total on May 25th, 2013, suggesting that if I have received no further suspensions in that three-year period, I would be back on zero games.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Bussy » Thu May 27, 2010 9:26 am

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Absolutely correct, a f*$#%^@ disgrace that Bruce is deregistered
I only found out last Sat night but I hope the club is going to challenge this
Club needs to get someone like Jack Clarke or David Black, both Solicitors with a passion for amateur football to take this on.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby A Matter Of You » Thu May 27, 2010 9:32 am

Bussy wrote:NM
Absolutely correct, a f*$#%^@ disgrace that Bruce is deregistered
I only found out last Sat night but I hope the club is going to challenge this
Club needs to get someone like Jack Clarke or David Black, both Solicitors with a passion for amateur football to take this on.


Greg Griffen is pretty passionate too! ;)
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 27, 2010 9:43 am

heater31 wrote:
Trader wrote:What is the 12 game rule?

Once your total games suspended reaches 12 you're gone for life?



IIRC its 12 games in a 3 year period.

From what I have read on here this is the 2nd expulsion and if the facts are reported correctly in both cases the suspensions are a complete joke.


This Investigation panel should only be open to the week preceding the alleged incident. Once the next round commences its done and dusted. If the incident was not dealt with on the day or by the following Monday then the appellants are just clutching at straws looking to make a name for themselves


I was under the impression that it was 12 games in a 3 year period but have since been corrected by someone in the know, it it 12 games period.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby RedMagpie » Thu May 27, 2010 9:51 am

Well the young lad from the club went down last night and only recieved one match. He is counting his lucky stars!
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Footy Chick » Thu May 27, 2010 9:54 am

RedMagpie wrote:Well the young lad from the club went down last night and only recieved one match. He is counting his lucky stars!



Very lucky! :shock: Tell him go go buy a lotto ticket! :lol:
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby One Eyed » Thu May 27, 2010 10:19 am

one game for headbutting ..guys get more for saying the words Bull S*&t to an umpire. Well done tribunal again
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby aceman » Thu May 27, 2010 10:25 am

One Eyed wrote:one game for headbutting ..guys get more for saying the words Bull S*&t to an umpire. Well done trinunal again



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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby RedMagpie » Thu May 27, 2010 10:32 am

it was a defensive action and he has a clean sheet. The instigator was throwing fists and it was as the Salisbury player ducked his head there heads came into contact.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Road to Glory » Thu May 27, 2010 10:34 am

The saafl tribunal is a load of wank and the people on the panel are just idiots with no idea on what amature Footy is about, and reporting people and suspending them weeks after games for incidents people sturggle to recall or remember exact contests in games is bullcrap
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Choccies » Thu May 27, 2010 10:48 am

RedMagpie wrote:it was a defensive action and he has a clean sheet. The instigator was throwing fists and it was as the Salisbury player ducked his head there heads came into contact.


Nup. Not buying that one sorry RM. Was obviously 'obvious' enough to warrant being reported and found guilty so in my eyes guilty means guilty and 1 game is weak. I'm sure if he was defending himself and it was incidental contact then that would have come out.... but 1 week is lucky and he'd be thankful he got off that lightly...
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby aceman » Thu May 27, 2010 10:50 am

Road to Glory wrote:The saafl tribunal is a load of wank and the people on the panel are just idiots with no idea on what amature Footy is about, and reporting people and suspending them weeks after games for incidents people sturggle to recall or remember exact contests in games is bullcrap



Not sure that's correct as most of them have played at SAAFL level albeit many moons ago. The issue in my experience is that in many cases, the player/advocate has to prove his innocence rather that the umpire put forward a strong enough case to prove player guilty. There appears on occasions to be the distinct feeling that "guilty" on the night will be the outcome irrespective of what's put forward.
Must say that overall it balances itself out.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby NO-MERCY » Thu May 27, 2010 11:30 am

Quichey wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
This rule has it's merits but just like anything else, possibly needs a tweak but also needs to have set boundaries.



Agree. The ban system has merit, but games shouldn't be allowed to accumulate indefinitely. Similar to how our driver's license demerit point accumulate and expire, so should any tribunal penalties.

ie. I get suspended for 6 games for head-butting today - May 26th, 2010. That 6 games supension rolls out of my accumulation total on May 25th, 2013, suggesting that if I have received no further suspensions in that three-year period, I would be back on zero games.


I think that is a great format.
Thugs in our game won't last 3 years without suspension so if they continue to accumulate suspensions within the 3 years period after their 1st offence i say on your bike.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu May 27, 2010 11:52 am

NO-MERCY wrote:
Quichey wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
This rule has it's merits but just like anything else, possibly needs a tweak but also needs to have set boundaries.



Agree. The ban system has merit, but games shouldn't be allowed to accumulate indefinitely. Similar to how our driver's license demerit point accumulate and expire, so should any tribunal penalties.

ie. I get suspended for 6 games for head-butting today - May 26th, 2010. That 6 games supension rolls out of my accumulation total on May 25th, 2013, suggesting that if I have received no further suspensions in that three-year period, I would be back on zero games.




I think that is a great format.
Thugs in our game won't last 3 years without suspension so if they continue to accumulate suspensions within the 3 years period after their 1st offence i say on your bike.

It's not within a 3 year period though.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby NO-MERCY » Thu May 27, 2010 12:09 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:READ THIS SLOWLY BELOW, THATS WHAT I"M REFERRING TO. :roll:

Agree. The ban system has merit, but games shouldn't be allowed to accumulate indefinitely. Similar to how our driver's license demerit point accumulate and expire, so should any tribunal penalties.

ie. I get suspended for 6 games for head-butting today - May 26th, 2010. That 6 games supension rolls out of my accumulation total on May 25th, 2013, suggesting that if I have received no further suspensions in that three-year period, I would be back on zero games.


I think that is a great format.
Thugs in our game won't last 3 years without suspension so if they continue to accumulate suspensions within the 3 years period after their 1st offence i say on your bike.[/quote]
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Trader » Thu May 27, 2010 12:32 pm

If you are going to make it a rolling period of three years 12 games is too many. Cut it to more like 6 if they get em back every 3 years.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Bigshow82 » Thu May 27, 2010 12:59 pm

Trader wrote:If you are going to make it a rolling period of three years 12 games is too many. Cut it to more like 6 if they get em back every 3 years.


How could you make it less than 12 with the way people get games thrown at them.
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby finn » Thu May 27, 2010 1:10 pm

Quichey wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
This rule has it's merits but just like anything else, possibly needs a tweak but also needs to have set boundaries.



Agree. The ban system has merit, but games shouldn't be allowed to accumulate indefinitely. Similar to how our driver's license demerit point accumulate and expire, so should any tribunal penalties.

ie. I get suspended for 6 games for head-butting today - May 26th, 2010. That 6 games supension rolls out of my accumulation total on May 25th, 2013, suggesting that if I have received no further suspensions in that three-year period, I would be back on zero games.


Liking the idea that games don't accrue indefinitely but I'd make it at four years - that averages to 3 games per year - like to think that people should be able to avoid doing something that warrants suspension. Then the games accrued in the first year drop off in year 5, those in the second year in year 6 etc
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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby Top End » Thu May 27, 2010 1:42 pm

A Matter Of You wrote:
Bussy wrote:NM
Absolutely correct, a f*$#%^@ disgrace that Bruce is deregistered
I only found out last Sat night but I hope the club is going to challenge this
Club needs to get someone like Jack Clarke or David Black, both Solicitors with a passion for amateur football to take this on.


Greg Griffen is pretty passionate too! ;)



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Re: Tribunal and other matters

Postby piccachu » Thu May 27, 2010 1:52 pm

the rule is a must have to rid the league of the thugs but there is a huge grey area for example portland have 2 players that were reported a couple of seasons ago for urinating in a tree away from the ground at a college oval who both recieved 2 games a peice, how would you feel if that 2 game sentance tipped you over the 12 games or even was just part of the reason you got the boot from the league.
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