paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Dogwatcher » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:18 am

Sad to hear.
I'm sorry for your news Carey.

I kicked my first goal against Paralowie, in under 11s, way back in about 1986.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:22 am

Sad day indeed :( for a team that won an A Grade premiership in 2008 and a C Grade one in 2009 (from memory) its hard to believe it can be closed a season later. RIP Paralowie
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:44 am

Rename the club Arts, culture & sports club & the council will chuck in millions.
Hey soccer you owe us 45million.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby X Runna » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:53 am

Tragic to hear of this news too.

2 clubs who gave the opportunity to locals to play footy for many years, can no longer do so. To the players & the good people behind the scenes of both clubs, I do feel for you.

Whatever you do, don't give this great game away - you are too long in retirement as it is. If any of you boys from Paralowie or those who have left Smithfield, feel like a kick, you are welcome at our club.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby schimma » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:53 am

sad day to see a club fold. played against them last year. were a good bunch of lads (except 1 bloke) maybe i could head back out and see if my tooth is still there.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:00 am

schimma wrote:sad day to see a club fold. played against them last year. were a good bunch of lads (except 1 bloke) maybe i could head back out and see if my tooth is still there.




Hard to believe anyone would wanna hit you Schimma ;) You must have been dominating
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby zedman » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:48 am

morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.


sad to hear carey..hang in there mate..

your club has a decision to make morell..
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby morell » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:59 am

zedman wrote:
morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.


sad to hear carey..hang in there mate..

your club has a decision to make morell..
Indeed it does. I just got off the phone with the President and he is organising a meet for tonight after training for the committee and senior playing group.

Knowing the opinions of the President, the Coach and quite a few senior players I would put money on us deciding to stay in Division 7, but it is ultimately, up to the majority.

As soon as I know I will post it up here.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby morell » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:22 am

Seagull wrote:
morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.[/
quote]



Not sure this is any fault of the league.
Every club is the responsibility of the league.

This is ALL related to the current culture of financial reward for playing the game. Ban (and enforce consequences) on playing payments within the SAAFL and I am pretty confident both Smithfield and Paralowie would be fielding two teams in 2011.

Sure, a few blokes might not have as much money to piss down the drain on a Saturday night, but the game would be a lot healthier overall.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Pag » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:28 am

morell wrote:
Seagull wrote:
morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.[/
quote]



Not sure this is any fault of the league.
Every club is the responsibility of the league.

This is ALL related to the current culture of financial reward for playing the game. Ban (and enforce consequences) on playing payments within the SAAFL and I am pretty confident both Smithfield and Paralowie would be fielding two teams in 2011.

Sure, a few blokes might not have as much money to piss down the drain on a Saturday night, but the game would be a lot healthier overall.
Payment is unstoppable mate, hence why the Salary Cap was such a waste of time. It sounds good in theory, but you just can't police it.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Jabber » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:30 am

Pag wrote:
morell wrote:
Seagull wrote:
morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.[/
quote]



Not sure this is any fault of the league.
Every club is the responsibility of the league.

This is ALL related to the current culture of financial reward for playing the game. Ban (and enforce consequences) on playing payments within the SAAFL and I am pretty confident both Smithfield and Paralowie would be fielding two teams in 2011.

Sure, a few blokes might not have as much money to piss down the drain on a Saturday night, but the game would be a lot healthier overall.
Payment is unstoppable mate, hence why the Salary Cap was such a waste of time. It sounds good in theory, but you just can't police it.


Ban player payments and then all the talent will bugger off to the country = less players = less teams = less clubs...
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby morell » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:36 am

Ah c'mon guys!

So at 3/4 time you're down by a few goals you just throw your hands in the air and give up?

It is absolutely possible to both police and infringe. Nothing will stop the paper bag under the table deals between mates, but I am talking about the now wide spread systematic payment of players all the way down the divisions.

Step 1 - Build a penalty structure
Step 2 - Force all clubs to turn over quarterly financial statements
Step 3 - Hire an auditing/accounting firm
Step 4 - Undertake random audits

How many clubs would risk being booted out the league for the sake of paying a few mercenaries? In todays age of due diligence just doing Step 1 would get rid of a lot of it.

You wont ever rid all of it, but I reckon implementing a few barriers would eradicate a lot of it.

Wouldn't we be better of removing some cancer rather than none?
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby morell » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:37 am

Jabber wrote:Ban player payments and then all the talent will bugger off to the country = less players = less teams = less clubs...
How many players are heading to the country because their local club no longer exists?

Chicken and egg...
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby wristwatcher » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:38 am

Completely agree. It cant be policed at amateur level. FOR INSTANCE ; If Joes Concrete chooses to give player X an envelope each week no-one really has to know :shock:
I mean im sure Chris Judd busts his ass 8-4 every day in the Visy factory and James Hird was washing the planes at Ansett every chance he got :roll: but if the AFL players can get away with it with the big$$$ they are carefully and creatively book keeping then any team in any league can you would think.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby morell » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:40 am

wristwatcher wrote:Completely agree. It cant be policed at amateur level. FOR INSTANCE ; If Joes Concrete chooses to give player X an envelope each week no-one really has to know :shock:
What % do you think this method would constitute for player payments? 10%-20%?

Even if you force it to go underground its better than doing nothing.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby bandar » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:43 am

morell wrote:
Seagull wrote:
morell wrote:Very sad news indeed. Had some good (and not so good) hit outs with the Roos.

If the SAAFL doesn't pull its finger out, more clubs will die.[/
quote]



Not sure this is any fault of the league.
Every club is the responsibility of the league.

This is ALL related to the current culture of financial reward for playing the game. Ban (and enforce consequences) on playing payments within the SAAFL and I am pretty confident both Smithfield and Paralowie would be fielding two teams in 2011.

Sure, a few blokes might not have as much money to piss down the drain on a Saturday night, but the game would be a lot healthier overall.



Every club is the responsibility of themselves.

Each club has to live within it's means.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby The Riddler » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:48 am

Why can't the SAAFL hire somebody to look at every clubs financial books on a regular basis? Not saying this will stop player payments this does not faze me, if you can afford to do it good luck to you but it will give the league an indication as to which clubs are struggling financially and steps can be put in place to get them up and running properly...Paralowie perfect example.
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Footy Chick » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:17 pm

The Riddler wrote:Why can't the SAAFL hire somebody to look at every clubs financial books on a regular basis? Not saying this will stop player payments this does not faze me, if you can afford to do it good luck to you but it will give the league an indication as to which clubs are struggling financially and steps can be put in place to get them up and running properly...Paralowie perfect example.



So you want club calls to be increased by about $1000 per year so the league can spend $60-70k on an auditor to come around and check on the now lack of money your club will have due to the extra call fees?

Might want to rethink that one ;) :lol:
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby The Riddler » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:19 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
The Riddler wrote:Why can't the SAAFL hire somebody to look at every clubs financial books on a regular basis? Not saying this will stop player payments this does not faze me, if you can afford to do it good luck to you but it will give the league an indication as to which clubs are struggling financially and steps can be put in place to get them up and running properly...Paralowie perfect example.



So you want club calls to be increased by about $1000 per year so the league can spend $60-70k on an auditor to come around and check on the now lack of money your club will have due to the extra call fees?

Might want to rethink that one ;) :lol:

:lol: How silly of me to think the league may dip into it's very inflated bank account and fork out it's own funds for this....I apologise :)
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Re: paralowie - another 1 bites the dust........

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:20 pm

The Riddler wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:
The Riddler wrote:Why can't the SAAFL hire somebody to look at every clubs financial books on a regular basis? Not saying this will stop player payments this does not faze me, if you can afford to do it good luck to you but it will give the league an indication as to which clubs are struggling financially and steps can be put in place to get them up and running properly...Paralowie perfect example.



So you want club calls to be increased by about $1000 per year so the league can spend $60-70k on an auditor to come around and check on the now lack of money your club will have due to the extra call fees?

Might want to rethink that one ;) :lol:

:lol: How silly of me to think the league may dip into it's very inflated bank account and fork out it's own funds for this....I apologise :)

Enough of the jokes Riddler ;)
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