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Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:03 am
by Bluedemon
When is the tribunal sitting?

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:29 am
by stan
Bluedemon wrote:When is the tribunal sitting?

In thought the tribunal is Tuesday nights? Could be wrong.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:35 am
by LaughingKookaburra
I haven't got the slightest clue initially but wouldn't the tribunal take a back seat initially until it's fully investigated and there is an outcome from higher authorities? Hate to jump the gun before all facts come out...

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:37 am
by Mr Beefy
Wednesday like every other week.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:33 am
by stan
LaughingKookaburra wrote:I haven't got the slightest clue initially but wouldn't the tribunal take a back seat initially until it's fully investigated and there is an outcome from higher authorities? Hate to jump the gun before all facts come out...

No I would think that the tribunal would run its course regardless and the police investigation will happen in parallel.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:16 am
by Robbo14

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:02 am
by Arch44

Cmon Robbo14, You put a link on I have to subscribe to. :?

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:04 am
by retired60
Well if you can believe what is reported in the Advertiser, apparently 'the player didnt strike but grabbed the umpire' OH REALLY!

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:25 am
by Robbo14
Arch, Google "Trewartha umpire" click on the images and then you'll be able to read the article.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:51 am
by Arch44
Robbo14 wrote:Arch, Google "Trewartha umpire" click on the images and then you'll be able to read the article.


Cheers mate. That picture is not from a "Grab"

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:10 pm
by Spangas
Arch44 wrote:
Robbo14 wrote:Arch, Google "Trewartha umpire" click on the images and then you'll be able to read the article.


Cheers mate. That picture is not from a "Grab"

On a more serious note he could have tidied up those nose hairs a bit.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:11 pm
by Spangas
Image

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:32 pm
by oldman
Stripping the club of its points would actually have a massive effect as it could mean possible relegation for them being so late in the season. That would send a pretty strong message that the league has zero tolerance for such behaviour?

Considering this same club had a player suspended in the finals last season for striking with an elbow which resulted in a broken jaw and the suspended player being deregistered due to too many suspensions........maybe the message isn't getting through??

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:47 pm
by Lightning McQueen
oldman wrote:Stripping the club of its points would actually have a massive effect as it could mean possible relegation for them being so late in the season. That would send a pretty strong message that the league has zero tolerance for such behaviour?

Considering this same club had a player suspended in the finals last season for striking with an elbow which resulted in a broken jaw and the suspended player being deregistered due to too many suspensions........maybe the message isn't getting through??


I fail to see how a forced relegation benefits anyone, it doesn't help opposition clubs who have to front them after being very competitive in div. 5 and generally being around the mark, it doesn't help the league with potential lop-sided results and I don't see how Rosewater could be held accountable in this instance.
Sure, a strong message needs to be sent, any punishment on the club going forward will not hinder the player in question, it's unlikely that he'll play again and at a guess he probably wouldn't be spending too much time around the club in the near future.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:50 pm
by Robbo14
Has there been any other incidents in the past where an individual's actions has resulted in the team losing points?

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:52 pm
by Footy Chick
plenty.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:52 pm
by jo172
Robbo14 wrote:Has there been any other incidents in the past where an individual's actions has resulted in the team losing points?


See Salisbury North this year for a start.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:53 pm
by oldman
Lightning McQueen wrote:
oldman wrote:Stripping the club of its points would actually have a massive effect as it could mean possible relegation for them being so late in the season. That would send a pretty strong message that the league has zero tolerance for such behaviour?

Considering this same club had a player suspended in the finals last season for striking with an elbow which resulted in a broken jaw and the suspended player being deregistered due to too many suspensions........maybe the message isn't getting through??


I fail to see how a forced relegation benefits anyone, it doesn't help opposition clubs who have to front them after being very competitive in div. 5 and generally being around the mark, it doesn't help the league with potential lop-sided results and I don't see how Rosewater could be held accountable in this instance.
Sure, a strong message needs to be sent, any punishment on the club going forward will not hinder the player in question, it's unlikely that he'll play again and at a guess he probably wouldn't be spending too much time around the club in the near future.


Had this happened in round 4 the stripping of points would absolutely been talked about as punishment do you agree? They have been up and down all year I don't think playing in Div6 would be any different and maybe just maybe the club would go about things differently as this is not the first time this club has been involved in on field indiscretions.

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:55 pm
by Fricky
Lightning McQueen wrote:
oldman wrote:Stripping the club of its points would actually have a massive effect as it could mean possible relegation for them being so late in the season. That would send a pretty strong message that the league has zero tolerance for such behaviour?

Considering this same club had a player suspended in the finals last season for striking with an elbow which resulted in a broken jaw and the suspended player being deregistered due to too many suspensions........maybe the message isn't getting through??


I fail to see how a forced relegation benefits anyone, it doesn't help opposition clubs who have to front them after being very competitive in div. 5 and generally being around the mark, it doesn't help the league with potential lop-sided results and I don't see how Rosewater could be held accountable in this instance.
Sure, a strong message needs to be sent, any punishment on the club going forward will not hinder the player in question, it's unlikely that he'll play again and at a guess he probably wouldn't be spending too much time around the club in the near future.


I would think that consistent situations of violence from players of the same club would warrant them losing points i.e. over 3 years the same club continue to have players suspended for striking, which could leave the League thinking that the club isn't doing enough to stamp out the violence and they decide to take points from said club. Don't the league send a letter to clubs if they continue to have players being suspended asking what the club is doing to rectify this?

Re: Drugs, umps and other ammo's news

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:57 pm
by whufc
Lightning McQueen wrote:
oldman wrote:Stripping the club of its points would actually have a massive effect as it could mean possible relegation for them being so late in the season. That would send a pretty strong message that the league has zero tolerance for such behaviour?

Considering this same club had a player suspended in the finals last season for striking with an elbow which resulted in a broken jaw and the suspended player being deregistered due to too many suspensions........maybe the message isn't getting through??


I fail to see how a forced relegation benefits anyone, it doesn't help opposition clubs who have to front them after being very competitive in div. 5 and generally being around the mark, it doesn't help the league with potential lop-sided results and I don't see how Rosewater could be held accountable in this instance.
Sure, a strong message needs to be sent, any punishment on the club going forward will not hinder the player in question, it's unlikely that he'll play again and at a guess he probably wouldn't be spending too much time around the club in the near future.


Agree,

I think there needs to somehow be a ban which if found guilty forces the player to be suspended from all sport not just football including all affiliation including playing and coaching.

The message needs to be that there is no place in 'sport' for people with that mentality