Peter Shepherd

[Maddogmike]

No chance are a Div 4 side paying over $200 a game to a player - regardless of the player.

That sorta money isnt that well paid at Div 1 level, let alone in the lower grades.

[heater31]

No chance are a Div 4 side paying over $200 a game to a player - regardless of the player.

That sorta money isnt that well paid at Div 1 level, let alone in the lower grades.

When was the last game of footy you played mike????

ex ressies players are commanding 300 to 350 a game these days

[malleebull]

they couldnt sell $400 of drinks in the bar saturday arvo let alone pay that much cash. get real

[heater31]

they couldnt sell $400 of drinks in the bar saturday arvo let alone pay that much cash. get real

Agreed Rosewater would struggle to fork out that amount of cash but it wouldn't be beyond some of the other div 4 clubs.................North Haven springs to mind

[malleebull]

i know first hand that pooraka have struggled in the last decade to buy quality recruits. most of their good players wouldnt get payed $400 in a season . being in div four is a real struggle regardless

[Westsider]

they couldnt sell $400 of drinks in the bar saturday arvo let alone pay that much cash. get real

they could you know

e.g. Jim Beam can's. They'd be picking up a carton of 24 for around $60 i guess.

Selling at $5 a can.. profit of $2.50 a can

Only need to sell 160 cans of beam a week.

2 teams, only 4 cans a player a week lol!!!

And apparently a sponsor is forking over the cash directly to Mr Shephard to play... thats what I heard anyways. Probably trying to get rid of some excess cash come tax time!!

[Iron Fist]

they couldnt sell $400 of drinks in the bar saturday arvo let alone pay that much cash. get real

they could you know

e.g. Jim Beam can's. They'd be picking up a carton of 24 for around $60 i guess.

Selling at $5 a can.. profit of $2.50 a can

Only need to sell 160 cans of beam a week.

2 teams, only 4 cans a player a week lol!!!

And apparently a sponsor is forking over the cash directly to Mr Shephard to play... thats what I heard anyways. Probably trying to get rid of some excess cash come tax time!!

yeah thats what i was told to
a sponsor is paying these payed players at rossies direct to them!!!!!

[Shameless]

He is definately not on any more than 200 a game.

I think you will find there are other incentives as well.

[FootyMad]

Westsider that is very very insightful mate and your right can be done - but i reckon they could sell the cans for $6 bucks and make as much proift and sell fewer cans.
The other thing about the sponsor would be spot on mate! I know of some major sponsors who place contracted players either on there employee lists and pay them to make it look like wages, then they make claims at tax time along with claiming back things such as training and development costs etc or they can use the contracted player as consultant to their business and claim it as an expense all the while paying the paid player in lump sums. This is also done in country clubs with vehicles where sponsors buy a vehicle and register it through the business, claim shit loads back - everything from mileage to depreciation while the contracted players use the vehicle.

[Iron Fist]

Westsider that is very very insightful mate and your right can be done - but i reckon they could sell the cans for $6 bucks and make as much proift and sell fewer cans.
The other thing about the sponsor would be spot on mate! I know of some major sponsors who place contracted players either on there employee lists and pay them to make it look like wages, then they make claims at tax time along with claiming back things such as training and development costs etc or they can use the contracted player as consultant to their business and claim it as an expense all the while paying the paid player in lump sums. This is also done in country clubs with vehicles where sponsors buy a vehicle and register it through the business, claim shit loads back - everything from mileage to depreciation while the contracted players use the vehicle.

that is a fair way to rort the system
what would happen if these sponsors were caught out
or cant be they?????

[FootyMad]

Fisty you remember Im just an innocent saying this sought of stuff could happen...
But... IF they were to be caught out (audited) it still can be very hard to prove. Nothing can happen to the club as they cant be tied to who paid what if money never went through the club. The TAX man would only be whimpering if it was copious amounts and then would suggest it be border line fraudulent behaviour however any decent accountant can probably do a good job to cover tracks.
Just goes back to the ol' clubs with money get more for the dollar than those that dont.

[Iron Fist]

Fisty you remember Im just an innocent saying this sought of stuff could happen...
But... IF they were to be caught out (audited) it still can be very hard to prove. Nothing can happen to the club as they cant be tied to who paid what if money never went through the club. The TAX man would only be whimpering if it was copious amounts and then would suggest it be border line fraudulent behaviour however any decent accountant can probably do a good job to cover tracks.
Just goes back to the ol' clubs with money get more for the dollar than those that dont.

i understand that FM
just taking a intereset into this as i never thought it was quite as complicated as that
being a player that has never been payed, im new to this
i was not aware of the extent some clubs and sponsors will go to!!!!!

[FootyMad]

Its a men's sport mate and no matter what we take it personal and all want to be the best. In some country areas all people do is work their arse off and then go to the footy club. Sports clubs are what small and regional towns thrive off so money is a necessity and for others it simply board farmers and stockman who have nothing else to do with the cash so they pump it into a club.

[Iron Fist]

Its a men's sport mate and no matter what we take it personal and all want to be the best. In some country areas all people do is work their arse off and then go to the footy club. Sports clubs are what small and regional towns thrive off so money is a necessity and for others it simply board farmers and stockman who have nothing else to do with the cash so they pump it into a club.

that seems valid enough!!!!!

[the reflex]

I can tell u if Sheperd is "only" getting $200 a game it is the best value recruit in country SA

[Dogwatcher]

How about in the city though?

[Iron Fist]

How about in the city though?

haha
good call dogs
would he be though???????
reflex???

[the reflex]

geography not my best subject at school, however if he is playing div 4 (inferior to most good A gde country leauges) he will dominate, if off field dramas can be kept in check .
could get $500 at plenty of clubs.

[Iron Fist]

geography not my best subject at school, however if he is playing div 4 (inferior to most good A gde country leauges) he will dominate, if off field dramas can be kept in check .
could get $500 at plenty of clubs.

yeah fair point
from what ive heard that is closer to the sum he is actually getting there!!!!

[the reflex]

thats a fair bit of spunna for divvy 4, hope he kicks a few, has one of the best baulks going around, eddie hocking would be proud