Ovingham Sports and Social Club 2009

[aceman]

If this Chris Newman is such a good coach i ask y isnt he coaching higher?. Dont no the bloke so cant comment on him. Just wondering

i have played under Chris. he is a good coach who knows his stuff, he is hard nosed, passionate and stubborn! He brings the best out of his players, its simple step up or p**s off! this is why guys follow him, he is brutally honest and straight forward, you know where you stand, and he manages to bring out the best in blokes..

Wingfield burnt their own bridges, couldnt manage their trouble makers, look at the sides, chris coached the b grade and encouraged the boys to step up to a grade, boys which in the end won them the flag, then he copped abuse uncalled for!!

Gepps Cross wanted nothing to do with the "gypsies" back in the day, shunned them and made them feel unwelcome! These blokes brought records, membership, players and a flag to the club..

Phantom, can I suggest you don't know what you're talking about.
The premiership was great, why not stick around and try for back to back? The club would have welcomed that win,lose or draw.
What records did they bring, Diesel, Shirley Bassey or The Carpenters?
Half of them didn't pay their subs so membership is out the window!
Fitting into any environment is a 2 way street, hanging around at the back of the coaches box for whatever reason is not a way of intergrating with other members of the club, go inside and become a part of the club.

The Senior coach at the time was out of line re the change rooms, however, blind Freddy could see that 3 teams in 1 changeroom was difficult, it was unfair of him to make the C grade use the visitors change rooms however in hindsight, you were better off in there. That was not the major issue with the C grade and if you were there that year, be specific with your comments, don't make sweeping general statements which are not correct.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

let's talk tradition and history. when was the last time Ovies had two sides?

In 2004 Ovies won the flag, the year after the coach, M Bennet, couldn't get two sides together as much as he tried. So if we get two sides together this year then we've done what couldn't be done previously. BUT if we don't then we're in the same boat he was in?

Was he a failure for not gettin two sides together, did he cop the same treatment?

and out of interest, how many clubs does it take to become a gypsy?

Probably 3 in 3 years, Gepps Cross, Wingfield & Ovingham's not a bad starting point.

Try 4 in 4 years Broadview 05, Gepps Cross 06, Wingfield 07 & Ovingham 08

never played at broadview?!? wrong person me thinks...

Chris was going to be our U/17 coach in 2001 but the side did not eventuate did playfor us in 2005 and left after that season taking quite a few players with him to Gepps Cross causing us to lose our D Grade

[JS SPORTS]

Chris was going to be our U/17 coach in 2001 but the side did not eventuate did playfor us in 2005 and left after that season taking quite a few players with him to Gepps Cross causing us to lose our D Grade


Yep, that seals the deal as far as I'm concerned,now will the real gypsies please stand up!

[JS SPORTS]

Chris was going to be our U/17 coach in 2001



Geez, that would have been interesting, I bet you're glad that didn't eventuate, you wouldn't have a club by now!

[Phantom Gossiper]

If this Chris Newman is such a good coach i ask y isnt he coaching higher?. Dont no the bloke so cant comment on him. Just wondering

i have played under Chris. he is a good coach who knows his stuff, he is hard nosed, passionate and stubborn! He brings the best out of his players, its simple step up or p**s off! this is why guys follow him, he is brutally honest and straight forward, you know where you stand, and he manages to bring out the best in blokes..

Wingfield burnt their own bridges, couldnt manage their trouble makers, look at the sides, chris coached the b grade and encouraged the boys to step up to a grade, boys which in the end won them the flag, then he copped abuse uncalled for!!

Gepps Cross wanted nothing to do with the "gypsies" back in the day, shunned them and made them feel unwelcome! These blokes brought records, membership, players and a flag to the club..

Phantom, can I suggest you don't know what you're talking about.
The premiership was great, why not stick around and try for back to back? The club would have welcomed that win,lose or draw.
What records did they bring, Diesel, Shirley Bassey or The Carpenters?
Half of them didn't pay their subs so membership is out the window!
Fitting into any environment is a 2 way street, hanging around at the back of the coaches box for whatever reason is not a way of intergrating with other members of the club, go inside and become a part of the club.

The Senior coach at the time was out of line re the change rooms, however, blind Freddy could see that 3 teams in 1 changeroom was difficult, it was unfair of him to make the C grade use the visitors change rooms however in hindsight, you were better off in there. That was not the major issue with the C grade and if you were there that year, be specific with your comments, don't make sweeping general statements which are not correct.

Well Mr Aceman, Im afraid i know more than you believe. I WAS THERE that year, i along with others tried to "fit into the club" we tried to move up through the grades without success, infact i believe at one stage the club wanted to "drop players" to the C grade!

I dont know the internal commitee details etc nor do i pretend to, but i know i as well as others were made to feel quite insignificant in your club that year. Disappointing for me since Gepps was the club i first played for in u/9's and i had great memories.

Also as far as the 3 teams to one changeroom arguement, pull your head in! Most nights there were more blokes training (harder & longer) than the a grade and b grade combined!!

Perhaps its you Aceman who who does not know what you are talking about.. im a diplomatic person who tries to look at both sides of the coin, but i think you are only on here to rubbish and put down these blokes, and in the process are helping to hurt the name of an old club!

[wattle]

let's talk tradition and history. when was the last time Ovies had two sides?

In 2004 Ovies won the flag, the year after the coach, M Bennet, couldn't get two sides together as much as he tried. So if we get two sides together this year then we've done what couldn't be done previously. BUT if we don't then we're in the same boat he was in?

Was he a failure for not gettin two sides together, did he cop the same treatment?

and out of interest, how many clubs does it take to become a gypsy?

so to answer you about Benno,Mark coached the 04 side to an undefeated flag(div 10) then was pushing for 2 sides in 05,but people around the club didnt like what they heard and chose to field 1 side and stay in the c grades.As a result of this Benno was sacked before 05 so no he wasnt a failure he just didnt have the whole club behind him like Chris does now Go the cats in 09

[aceman]

but i know i as well as others were made to feel quite insignificant in your club that year

How does a person become " made to feel quite insignificant", can you explain that to me please?


Also as far as the 3 teams to one changeroom arguement, pull your head in! Most nights there were more blokes training (harder & longer) than the a grade and b grade combined!!

In case you couldn't work it out, I was actually sympathising with you guys over the changeroom situation that year, and if there were ever more C graders training longer & harder than the rest, then I must have been at the wrong club on Tues & Thursdays that year and every other year too for that matter.

Perhaps its you Aceman who who does not know what you are talking about.. im a diplomatic person who tries to look at both sides of the coin, but i think you are only on here to rubbish and put down these blokes, and in the process are helping to hurt the name of an old club!

With respect to your final comment which really doesn't warrant a response, I am a former Ovingham player, allbeit a while ago and I do have very fond memories of the club.
What concerns me with the current management is that the club will fold due to the transient nature of the people now in charge and their history of moving from club to club mostly on an annual basis.(their history shows that to be fact) and the resultant loss of a club because the real "club people" have left for reasons best known to them, some of those reasons created by the current management!

[The Big Shrek]

By the way, what's wrong with dropping players to the C grade?

[the tyre man]

theres a guy out at ovingham peter.c. hes abit of a head hunter. infact i was told by some1. that there coach last year was giving him the approval to take heads off if need be.(wat a joke of a coach).

[200 Killer Wasps]

"If need be" how do you define that Tyre Man.

As a coach If I had players who were receiving heavy treatment I would instruct our teams designated hard men to bring it to an end.

They understood what I meant, there were no reports as a result my ball players could do their job knowing they were being protected.

[JS SPORTS]

"If need be" how do you define that Tyre Man.

As a coach If I had players who were receiving heavy treatment I would instruct our teams designated hard men to bring it to an end.

They understood what I meant, there were no reports as a result my ball players could do their job knowing they were being protected.

Mate, if you are a footy coach, no wonder the Wunkar Bulldogs don't win too may. Maybe it's the "Wanker Coach".
Never seen a hard bloke at Wunkar unless he's buried in the silo

[nuggety goodness]

turn it up lads, it ends up being a sledging match as to who's heard what's happened and makin yourself feel better by puttin someone else down. do and say what you will boys, i've told you my story and i'm lookin forward to the next few years at Ovies and i know that the current player base is quite happy there. there are still many faces at the club from a couple years ago and some former players who have come back after a stint away. the club is growing so there will have to be a lot more new faces brought into the club so we can sustain 2 teams... get over it.

now i just wait for someone to throw out some more bait....

maybe you blokes should put as much energy into your respective clubs as you do to baggin everyone else and you might forge your clubs ahead.... just a thought...

and just for a little bit extra, who cares what has happened in the past, i'm over it, so why can't you all just move on and forget about little old Ovingham, who, according to many of you is doomed for failure... until that happens, shut up and go away...

on the PC case tyre man, he was never ever told to take anyone's head off or anything of the like, he is a very undisciplined player and chris hasblitzed him for it in the changerooms and i have had many personal discussions about this with him... dunno where you got your info from but it is false sir.

[nuggety goodness]

let's talk tradition and history. when was the last time Ovies had two sides?

In 2004 Ovies won the flag, the year after the coach, M Bennet, couldn't get two sides together as much as he tried. So if we get two sides together this year then we've done what couldn't be done previously. BUT if we don't then we're in the same boat he was in?

Was he a failure for not gettin two sides together, did he cop the same treatment?

and out of interest, how many clubs does it take to become a gypsy?

so to answer you about Benno,Mark coached the 04 side to an undefeated flag(div 10) then was pushing for 2 sides in 05,but people around the club didnt like what they heard and chose to field 1 side and stay in the c grades.As a result of this Benno was sacked before 05 so no he wasnt a failure he just didnt have the whole club behind him like Chris does now Go the cats in 09

wattle, was never callin mark a failure, just drawing a comparison which obviously doesn't exist anyway. from all reports it was the so called 'club people' that resigned the club to only one side for so long. this is according to a few blokes currently playing at Ovies again who were there years ago. and as i said this is only what i've heard...

the frustrating thing is that everything is posted on here as absolute truth when it is just heresay! and i have to enforce that it's only what i've heard in case it's taken the wrong way and i'm blamed for spreading crap.... it's a joke really...

[aceman]

turn it up lads, it ends up being a sledging match as to who's heard what's happened and makin yourself feel better by puttin someone else down. do and say what you will boys, i've told you my story and i'm lookin forward to the next few years at Ovies and i know that the current player base is quite happy there. there are still many faces at the club from a couple years ago and some former players who have come back after a stint away. the club is growing so there will have to be a lot more new faces brought into the club so we can sustain 2 teams... get over it.

now i just wait for someone to throw out some more bait....

maybe you blokes should put as much energy into your respective clubs as you do to baggin everyone else and you might forge your clubs ahead.... just a thought...

and just for a little bit extra, who cares what has happened in the past, i'm over it, so why can't you all just move on and forget about little old Ovingham, who, according to many of you is doomed for failure... until that happens, shut up and go away...

on the PC case tyre man, he was never ever told to take anyone's head off or anything of the like, he is a very undisciplined player and chris hasblitzed him for it in the changerooms and i have had many personal discussions about this with him... dunno where you got your info from but it is false sir.

That's a fair call NG. How many games did you play at Gepps Cross and what made you leave?
Just to let you know, I've been at GC for over 25 years so maybe I can talk with a little bit of authority on the subject.

[Bigshow82]

Hey Nuggety is Roger Jurina still out at Ovies this year? Very handy player!!

[nuggety goodness]

Hey Nuggety is Roger Jurina still out at Ovies this year? Very handy player!!

yeah i've spoken to Nev a few times and he's still out... and yes he is a very handy player. he had some issues with his knee late last year i think a partial PCL possibly but he'll pull up alright.

[nuggety goodness]

turn it up lads, it ends up being a sledging match as to who's heard what's happened and makin yourself feel better by puttin someone else down. do and say what you will boys, i've told you my story and i'm lookin forward to the next few years at Ovies and i know that the current player base is quite happy there. there are still many faces at the club from a couple years ago and some former players who have come back after a stint away. the club is growing so there will have to be a lot more new faces brought into the club so we can sustain 2 teams... get over it.

now i just wait for someone to throw out some more bait....

maybe you blokes should put as much energy into your respective clubs as you do to baggin everyone else and you might forge your clubs ahead.... just a thought...

and just for a little bit extra, who cares what has happened in the past, i'm over it, so why can't you all just move on and forget about little old Ovingham, who, according to many of you is doomed for failure... until that happens, shut up and go away...

on the PC case tyre man, he was never ever told to take anyone's head off or anything of the like, he is a very undisciplined player and chris hasblitzed him for it in the changerooms and i have had many personal discussions about this with him... dunno where you got your info from but it is false sir.

That's a fair call NG. How many games did you play at Gepps Cross and what made you leave?
Just to let you know, I've been at GC for over 25 years so maybe I can talk with a little bit of authority on the subject.

ace, i was apart of the C grade premiership side and went with my mates pretty much. i got on ok with a few of the lads but with most there wasn't much association with us (C graders), my opinion was that we were 2nd class citizens in many eyes... or we just couldn't get into the cliques that were formed...

i played pretty much two years, so maybe around 25-30 games... and i reckon two or three were in the magoos under Charlie Wintle at the end of 05...

[aceman]

turn it up lads, it ends up being a sledging match as to who's heard what's happened and makin yourself feel better by puttin someone else down. do and say what you will boys, i've told you my story and i'm lookin forward to the next few years at Ovies and i know that the current player base is quite happy there. there are still many faces at the club from a couple years ago and some former players who have come back after a stint away. the club is growing so there will have to be a lot more new faces brought into the club so we can sustain 2 teams... get over it.

now i just wait for someone to throw out some more bait....

maybe you blokes should put as much energy into your respective clubs as you do to baggin everyone else and you might forge your clubs ahead.... just a thought...

and just for a little bit extra, who cares what has happened in the past, i'm over it, so why can't you all just move on and forget about little old Ovingham, who, according to many of you is doomed for failure... until that happens, shut up and go away...

on the PC case tyre man, he was never ever told to take anyone's head off or anything of the like, he is a very undisciplined player and chris hasblitzed him for it in the changerooms and i have had many personal discussions about this with him... dunno where you got your info from but it is false sir.

That's a fair call NG. How many games did you play at Gepps Cross and what made you leave?
Just to let you know, I've been at GC for over 25 years so maybe I can talk with a little bit of authority on the subject.

ace, i was apart of the C grade premiership side and went with my mates pretty much. i got on ok with a few of the lads but with most there wasn't much association with us (C graders), my opinion was that we were 2nd class citizens in many eyes... or we just couldn't get into the cliques that were formed...
i played pretty much two years, so maybe around 25-30 games... and i reckon two or three were in the magoos under Charlie Wintle at the end of 05...

Fair enough, it's disappointing that you felt there were no opportunities to cement a regular B grade spot, I think Charlie was pretty fair with his group. Sorry too that you felt that way about not being included, I think maybe you should have been a bit more forceful, sometimes that's the way to break up the clique situation, I think clubs of all sorts have perceived cliques so maybe you take the bull by the horns and get in that way.
Good luck anyway!

[the tyre man]

Hey Nuggety is Roger Jurina still out at Ovies this year? Very handy player!!

yeah i've spoken to Nev a few times and he's still out... and yes he is a very handy player. he had some issues with his knee late last year i think a partial PCL possibly but he'll pull up alright.

i tried getting him back to the pines but he said the ground is to uneven(which is true).he said his knee or ankle wouldnt hold up on the ground.(playing and training there every week).

[04 Premiership Coach]

let's talk tradition and history. when was the last time Ovies had two sides?

In 2004 Ovies won the flag, the year after the coach, M Bennet, couldn't get two sides together as much as he tried. So if we get two sides together this year then we've done what couldn't be done previously. BUT if we don't then we're in the same boat he was in?

Was he a failure for not gettin two sides together, did he cop the same treatment?

and out of interest, how many clubs does it take to become a gypsy?

so to answer you about Benno,Mark coached the 04 side to an undefeated flag(div 10) then was pushing for 2 sides in 05,but people around the club didnt like what they heard and chose to field 1 side and stay in the c grades.As a result of this Benno was sacked before 05 so no he wasnt a failure he just didnt have the whole club behind him like Chris does now Go the cats in 09

wattle, was never callin mark a failure, just drawing a comparison which obviously doesn't exist anyway. from all reports it was the so called 'club people' that resigned the club to only one side for so long. this is according to a few blokes currently playing at Ovies again who were there years ago. and as i said this is only what i've heard...

the frustrating thing is that everything is posted on here as absolute truth when it is just heresay! and i have to enforce that it's only what i've heard in case it's taken the wrong way and i'm blamed for spreading crap.... it's a joke really...

Hey Nugget,who are the blokes who have come back to Ovies.Interested to know some names as I probably know them.