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Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:51 pm
by Yank Man
It’s all a bit like he said, she said at this point. At some stage the SANFL will need to introduce the real evidence they have. That’s when it will get interesting.

‘he who alleges must first prove’

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:24 pm
by Jimmy_041
All over now

Decision pending

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:37 pm
by jo172
Guilty.

Sentencing on the 20th

https://t.co/VtUIPewpDT

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:43 pm
by jo172
The Adelvertiser article damning.

Griffin admitted the club’s guilt in closing but submitted Rosella not guilty but knew what had occurred prior to becoming president

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:44 pm
by Brodlach
Guilty of 223 breaches of regulations

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:51 pm
by dedja
dedja wrote:Griffin is a clown, adding him to the mix is pouring petrol on the fire.


QED

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:51 pm
by Armchair expert
Start poaching their players asap

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:55 pm
by tigerpie
Appeal pending?

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:56 pm
by Jimmy_041
Better ramp up the Go Fund Me page.
Just shows you can use the media as much as you want (because the other side won’t/can’t) but it means F’all when you up in front of a judge

My guess only but I’d say this is only the beginning of a nightmare for some people there

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:02 pm
by dedja
Griffin’s closing comments were a complete embarrassment.

Claiming for weeks that the club was innocent, the charges were trumped up, etc, etc. President pleads innocence during the hearing then in his closing argument, Griffin basically admits that the club was overpaying players and it was all good because the players actually received the money. Even better, he claimed that the President knew what was happening but tried to clean it all up.

I hope this was all pro-bono.

#clusterf*ck

The SANFL is going to add some extra weight to the sledgehammer at sentencing.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:06 pm
by tigerpie
There will be some very nervy presidents and committee members come out of this.
I mean it's a lot of breaches but gee a lot of clubs would be in similar territory for sure.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:07 pm
by jo172
Reading some of those breaches surely no one is close to that brazen.

Sure there are plenty of sharp elbows but this is absolute piss taking

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:20 pm
by bubba love
Kidding yourself if you think more clubs aren’t paying that and more

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:53 pm
by tigerpie
I would go as high as 50% of teams in any league you care to name would be guilty of salary cap cheating.
This may scare most of them clean but they're will always be the ol brown paper bag.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:34 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
Personally can’t believe that you can be already $80k in debt and then go through with all this process to effectively then admit guilt.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:42 pm
by tigerpie
If Griffen charged them then he should be wearing a ski mask.
It is baffling that they fought it as there must be overwhelming evidence against them and they and Griffen knew exactly what it was.
Half a dozen pissed off blokes testimony was never ever going to be disregarded.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:46 pm
by The Big Shrek
I don’t think the fine will be anywhere near $380k.

Once a fine gets over a certain level the fine becomes crushing. It would be disproportionate to follow a formula and arrive at that figure. I doubt Michael David is keen to end a football club by imposing a fine no-one is ever going to pay.

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:54 pm
by Jimmy_041
Gaza Sports & Community Club Inc v D Rosella?

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:42 am
by gadj1976
The Big Shrek wrote:I don’t think the fine will be anywhere near $380k.

Once a fine gets over a certain level the fine becomes crushing. It would be disproportionate to follow a formula and arrive at that figure. I doubt Michael David is keen to end a football club by imposing a fine no-one is ever going to pay.


I'm not saying this is right, but how would a small fine, de-incentivise other clubs from doing the same thing?

Re: Gaza FC - Salary Cap Breaches

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:13 am
by jo172
The Big Shrek wrote:I don’t think the fine will be anywhere near $380k.

Once a fine gets over a certain level the fine becomes crushing. It would be disproportionate to follow a formula and arrive at that figure. I doubt Michael David is keen to end a football club by imposing a fine no-one is ever going to pay.


Tend to agree. Prefer it to be APPS and TPPS based.

Ie you spend a decent period playing with no or next to no points and with no or next to no salary cap.

Club gets to exist but there’s a healthy hit of specific and general deterrence.

No one really gains anything from Gaza ceasing to exist (except presumably some soccer club who’d love the oval/facilities)