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Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:42 pm
by cracka
wenchbarwer wrote:
cracka wrote:
BulkEFC wrote:
scottroo wrote:The southern teams also have the hills league on our doorstep.

Can get from CLG to Blackwood in 6-7 minutes


CLG should do everyone a favour and join the hills league.

I'd prefer Blackwood to do the HFL a favour & join the AdFL :)


It's about time the old SFL/HFL/GSFL super league gets rehashed again, isn't it?

I'd forgotten about that. Going to have to try & find that load of crap talk now & find if the forum user that said it was definitely happening is still on here. :D

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:47 pm
by RHM 17
To say there are too many clubs in the Northern area is that a cop out for some..alot of clubs recruit players in and dont look after what they had and when the new ones leave after a year or 2...have a look at para hills they had terrible couple of years now have entered a D grade for the 1st time in there history ...

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:55 pm
by BulkEFC
RHM 17 wrote:To say there are too many clubs in the Northern area is that a cop out for some..alot of clubs recruit players in and dont look after what they had and when the new ones leave after a year or 2...have a look at para hills they had terrible couple of years now have entered a D grade for the 1st time in there history ...

Brand new facilities had heaps to do with the influx there for sure.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:19 pm
by Observer55
RHM 17 wrote:To say there are too many clubs in the Northern area is that a cop out for some..alot of clubs recruit players in and dont look after what they had and when the new ones leave after a year or 2...have a look at para hills they had terrible couple of years now have entered a D grade for the 1st time in there history ...

I would argue the demographic moving into the area are not necessarily Aussie Rules playing families in Salisbury and Elizabeth. Paralowie, North Pines, Salisbury West now potentially Elizabeth, Central United hanging on, Mawson Lakes, Who knows how Long Brahma hold on for, Salisbury an inch or two away only 18 months ago…

Would watch the Plains Football Association over the next few years, murmurs a couple of clubs are not wanted in the comp with the change in their ‘towns’ becoming more populated by the minute, Virginia, Two Wells and Angle Vale may be looking for another association if a few outlying clubs get their way.

Wouldn’t be bad for SAAFL either pushing a few clubs down and strengthening the lower divisions again.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:53 am
by LaughingKookaburra
If the SAAFL bring in clubs from the APFL in the next 5-10 years then I’ll walk to China. There’s absolutely no need to when the league already has 77 clubs. What is the logical point of bringing in another club North of Adelaide when a senior club has fallen over? If they did that then in 2-3 years at least one more will bite the bullet and another association would be under the pump with club numbers. No one wins in 4-5 years with that scenario…

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:27 am
by Observer55
LaughingKookaburra wrote:If the SAAFL bring in clubs from the APFL in the next 5-10 years then I’ll walk to China. There’s absolutely no need to when the league already has 77 clubs. What is the logical point of bringing in another club North of Adelaide when a senior club has fallen over? If they did that then in 2-3 years at least one more will bite the bullet and another association would be under the pump with club numbers. No one wins in 4-5 years with that scenario…


It isn’t SAAFL that is chasing the clubs, but possibly the other clubs within the Association wanting to push out these three clubs with the urban sprawl creating an unfair advantage.

Bring back CDFA?

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:59 am
by Forba01
BulkEFC wrote:
RHM 17 wrote:To say there are too many clubs in the Northern area is that a cop out for some..alot of clubs recruit players in and dont look after what they had and when the new ones leave after a year or 2...have a look at para hills they had terrible couple of years now have entered a D grade for the 1st time in there history ...

Brand new facilities had heaps to do with the influx there for sure.


Not losing any players, new players signing and guys wanting to come back is how it happened
Creating a Culture where players want to come, great management and having a great junior program helps
Yes new facilities help, but doess Broadview have a D Grade with new club rooms this year?

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:06 am
by locky801
Forba01 wrote:
BulkEFC wrote:
RHM 17 wrote:To say there are too many clubs in the Northern area is that a cop out for some..alot of clubs recruit players in and dont look after what they had and when the new ones leave after a year or 2...have a look at para hills they had terrible couple of years now have entered a D grade for the 1st time in there history ...

Brand new facilities had heaps to do with the influx there for sure.



Yes new facilities help, but doess Broadview have a D Grade with new club rooms this year?


No

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:26 am
by The Bedge
Observer55 wrote:It isn’t SAAFL that is chasing the clubs, but possibly the other clubs within the Association wanting to push out these three clubs with the urban sprawl creating an unfair advantage.

Bring back CDFA?

You're assuming the AdFL would allow them in. I can't see that happening - particularly Angle Vale who left in rather unscrupulous.

Plus, wouldn't existing clubs also have to vote on it? I'd almost back Salisbury West making a return before an APFL club joining.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:35 am
by Pag
I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:40 am
by redyellow&blue
Pag wrote:I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.


Not with the money they currently allowed to use now.

why would your hobble your own budget?

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:43 am
by Pag
redyellow&blue wrote:
Pag wrote:I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.


Not with the money they currently allowed to use now.

why would your hobble your own budget?

It might be out of their hands in terms of the CFB restructuring the Lower/Mid North area.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:55 am
by Mr Beefy
redyellow&blue wrote:
Pag wrote:I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.


Not with the money they currently allowed to use now.

why would your hobble your own budget?

How so, arent we all on the same salary cap rules?

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:29 am
by wenchbarwer
Mr Beefy wrote:
redyellow&blue wrote:
Pag wrote:I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.


Not with the money they currently allowed to use now.

why would your hobble your own budget?

How so, arent we all on the same salary cap rules?


Country leagues are higher than metro leagues

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:37 am
by Mr Beefy
wenchbarwer wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:
redyellow&blue wrote:
Pag wrote:I could see Virginia and possibly Two Wells coming in at some stage. For Southern clubs, they'd be easier to get to (via the Northern Connector) than Modbury/Tea Tree Gully/Golden Grove/Houghton up North East Rd.


Not with the money they currently allowed to use now.

why would your hobble your own budget?

How so, arent we all on the same salary cap rules?


Country leagues are higher than metro leagues

I'm pretty sure we are all operating under the same rules now. Only thing different is that country clubs are more likely to pay travel allowance, although this shouldn't apply to Two Wells, Virginia and Angle Vale as they are less than 50km from the GPO.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:40 am
by wenchbarwer
Mr Beefy wrote:I'm pretty sure we are all operating under the same rules now. Only thing different is that country clubs are more likely to pay travel allowance, although this shouldn't apply to Two Wells, Virginia and Angle Vale as they are less than 50km from the GPO.


You can pay one marquee player $1K per game in the country, but only $500 in the metro.

Unless you have Gaza's accountant

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:43 am
by Mr Beefy
wenchbarwer wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:I'm pretty sure we are all operating under the same rules now. Only thing different is that country clubs are more likely to pay travel allowance, although this shouldn't apply to Two Wells, Virginia and Angle Vale as they are less than 50km from the GPO.


You can pay one marquee player $1K per game in the country, but only $500 in the metro.

Unless you have Gaza's accountant

The Commitee must set a maximum Total Player Payments limit for all Leagues. Unless decided otherwise the
maximum Total Player Payment is $3,275.00 per Match from 2023 onwards with a limit of $650.00 for a Player


https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content/uploads/2023/08/05120336/Community-Football-Updated-Regulations-September-2023-9.pdf

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:44 am
by wenchbarwer
Well there you go, wonder if that all got changed during Covid?

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:23 am
by whufc
LaughingKookaburra wrote:If the SAAFL bring in clubs from the APFL in the next 5-10 years then I’ll walk to China. There’s absolutely no need to when the league already has 77 clubs. What is the logical point of bringing in another club North of Adelaide when a senior club has fallen over? If they did that then in 2-3 years at least one more will bite the bullet and another association would be under the pump with club numbers. No one wins in 4-5 years with that scenario…


I would highly doubt any APFL clubs would want to come to SAAFL. Clubs like Two Wells and Virginia would have roughly 70-100 females playing netball on the same day who would have to find inner city comps to then play in.

Never mind the lost income clubs would face from no entry fees, which would also include roughly no entries fees for 70-100 opposition netball players and XXXX amount of juniors for 8-9 games a year, lost canteen income from the much smaller crowds SAAFL generates. Then you would need to split your club volunteers at multiple grounds throughout the year.

Thats the business side of the club before you start to discuss the club losing the 'sense of country sport' etc which would be a huge discussion point.

Maybe clubs have approached the SAAFL but would be shocked and would think leagues such as the Barossa, NEFL or a merging of leagues would be the clubs first preference.

Re: 2024 Adelaide Footy League - Division 6

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:21 pm
by The Bedge
whufc wrote:Never mind the lost income clubs would face from no entry fees.

I hear this a lot.. but you know there isn't actually any rule against clubs charging entry fee in the AdFL right? It's more that stuff all clubs are in a position to actually be able to do it.