SAAFL Division 7 2013

[The Cows]

Of course Flinders Uni deserve a crack at finals. Similar to the Essendon saga, every team outside the 8 want to finish 9th.

[Robb_Stark]

Your right I wasn't there and I have remained very analytical about the whole situation but I don't need to keep my mouth shut at all. Some of my friends and colleagues where at incidents involving Smithfield and I have made all the relevant inquiries regarding their expulsion.

I understand your frustration at missing finals that results suggest you should be entitled to play but I'm not the reason for that and me responding to a post with the reported facts is my prerogative . I have said nothing defamatory about Smithfield and I won't be keeping my mouth shut because I haven't said anything out of order.

i was at the game ingle farm vs smithfield the people who wrecked the night walked across from the pub to the ground the ground marshal did go over to them and was told to F@#k off the police were called before any trouble started but what else can a club do when people come to watch from the pub and are either bikies or associates some had colours on some didnt.....then you have a few on the field who may not have history of reports and in 3-4 games 3-4 players have brain fades trouble makers are normally kicked out fast but you dont know they are trouble until its to late

and noway in the world a 6th side team deservesto make finals they didnt win enough to make the 5 so why reward them might as well give the bottom side a crack whats the difference

[DO IT DO IT]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

[Robb_Stark]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

[Wazz]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

Offense taken you knob! Yes there have been some issues but to suggest the "northern" clubs are rougher than other areas smacks of pure snobbery. Have a look at the tribunal this year and the clubs involved not in the north - Lockleys, Goodwood, Broadview, Seaton, Adelaide Uni, Woody South, Plympton, Mitcham, Henley, Pulteney, Gepps Cross, SHOC, SMOSH, Hope Valley, Modbury, Flinders Park, Col Light Gardens, TTG, Blackfriars, Gaza, Port District, West Croydon, Unley Mitcham, North Haven, PAOC, Portland.

[Phantom Gossiper]

I don't know anyone at Smithfield or care for them but what did the league actually do to help the club out in the first place seems they just used big words and didn't actually do anything...then they kick them out cause they put it in the to hard basket.....3 strikes and your out seems a little shit how about actual intervention could have done so many things to help the club


now you got a club who finished 6th who shouldn't be in the finals...does that 6th side deserve to play finals NO.... either play Smithfield or auto win but don't give a worse side a shot

I personally think the league needs to grow a pair and step in on situations rather then use big words and threats

Totally disagree, the league isn't there to be a counsellor/parent and help all the clubs through their own internal issues, they have more concerning issues to address and a lot more clubs and divisions that they need to keep their eyes on.

If you had a very ordinary employee in your workforce would management invest time and resources in providing an intervention as you say? No they would just sack them and get someone new in.

Nothing to do with putting anyone in a too hard basket, obviously the league had reason to believe Smithfields actions were damaging their brand and affecting other stakeholders and felt this was the best course of action and went with it.

[Phantom Gossiper]

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future

Yeah you are right it's how the club fixs the problems, not the SAAFL. If the SAAFL has to step in then it's clearly progressed beyond the control of the club or the league don't believe they are being proactive enough in dealing with the matters.

All well and good to say you are going to do this or that to fix problems, but actions speak louder than words and people want to see that actions are being taken to rectify issues.

[secondstring]

I don't know anyone at Smithfield or care for them but what did the league actually do to help the club out in the first place seems they just used big words and didn't actually do anything...then they kick them out cause they put it in the to hard basket.....3 strikes and your out seems a little shit how about actual intervention could have done so many things to help the club


now you got a club who finished 6th who shouldn't be in the finals...does that 6th side deserve to play finals NO.... either play Smithfield or auto win but don't give a worse side a shot

I personally think the league needs to grow a pair and step in on situations rather then use big words and threats

Totally disagree, the league isn't there to be a counsellor/parent and help all the clubs through their own internal issues, they have more concerning issues to address and a lot more clubs and divisions that they need to keep their eyes on.

If you had a very ordinary employee in your workforce would management invest time and resources in providing an intervention as you say? No they would just sack them and get someone new in.

Nothing to do with putting anyone in a too hard basket, obviously the league had reason to believe Smithfields actions were damaging their brand and affecting other stakeholders and felt this was the best course of action and went with it.

If that is the case how did Central United play the year out with there record and media coverage they brought to the league?

[GEESKIP]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

Offense taken you knob! Yes there have been some issues but to suggest the "northern" clubs are rougher than other areas smacks of pure snobbery. Have a look at the tribunal this year and the clubs involved not in the north - Lockleys, Goodwood, Broadview, Seaton, Adelaide Uni, Woody South, Plympton, Mitcham, Henley, Pulteney, Gepps Cross, SHOC, SMOSH, Hope Valley, Modbury, Flinders Park, Col Light Gardens, TTG, Blackfriars, Gaza, Port District, West Croydon, Unley Mitcham, North Haven, PAOC, Portland.

Excactly Wazz, plenty of stuck up clubs gone to the tribunal this year but as usual the "Northern" clubs dealt the harsh penalties......on that note wasnt there a complaint lodged against Woody South and Henley (both of which made the news), what ever came off those incidences??

[Robb_Stark]

I don't know anyone at Smithfield or care for them but what did the league actually do to help the club out in the first place seems they just used big words and didn't actually do anything...then they kick them out cause they put it in the to hard basket.....3 strikes and your out seems a little shit how about actual intervention could have done so many things to help the club


now you got a club who finished 6th who shouldn't be in the finals...does that 6th side deserve to play finals NO.... either play Smithfield or auto win but don't give a worse side a shot

I personally think the league needs to grow a pair and step in on situations rather then use big words and threats

Totally disagree, the league isn't there to be a counsellor/parent and help all the clubs through their own internal issues, they have more concerning issues to address and a lot more clubs and divisions that they need to keep their eyes on.

If you had a very ordinary employee in your workforce would management invest time and resources in providing an intervention as you say? No they would just sack them and get someone new in.

Nothing to do with putting anyone in a too hard basket, obviously the league had reason to believe Smithfields actions were damaging their brand and affecting other stakeholders and felt this was the best course of action and went with it.

If that is the case how did Central United play the year out with there record and media coverage they brought to the league?

central united are in trouble still and to wazz eastern park in juniors and seniors this year and last year have had dramas of there own parents officals players just cause you dont get reported doesnt mean you still dont asked from the league to please explain

[Phantom Gossiper]

Enough about Smithfield anyway, let's focus on the important stuff at hand - this weeks crucial finals games! Peoples thoughts on the match ups??

Div 7
Angle Vale v Houghton - Houghton appear to have gone off the boil in recent weeks, although injuries may well have hindered their form. I think Angle Vale at home, big day for the club with the A & B grade playing will be up and about for this clash, and will be brimming with confidence given their last encounter a couple weeks ago. Houghton on the other hand have had a tough finish to the season having to travel halfway around the state and play against teams who have had more to play for and i think that will take it's toll.

Flinders Park v Flinders Uni - Well done and congrats to Uni on the finals berth, massive step forward for the club and vast improvement on previous seasons, however the step up to finals I think will be too great, and being the 6th best side this year will show. This game will be a bit of a non-event and at home I think Flinders Park will win comfortably.

Div 7R
Ingle Farm v Flinders Park - "Home" game for Farmers at Flinders Park will prove a challenge, especially if the rain continues during the week as forecast. This will be an absolute rip snorter - clubs shared the spoils during the minor round, i'll be biased and get on the Farmers for a win just feel as a team and a club they have too much to prove and play for, and look to just be clicking at the right time.

Angle Vale v Flinders Uni - Sorry crabs, but as with the A grade just don't think they will handle the step up to finals well enough, culminated with one of the longest road trips in the comp and Angle Vale at home in front of their home crowd, think this will be over by half time.

[Phantom Gossiper]

If that is the case how did Central United play the year out with there record and media coverage they brought to the league?

I'm not disagreeing with that, and CU definately have had a worse year than Smithfield IMO.
I dont know the answers, I dont know how the league thinks i'm just trying to be a little diplomatic in how i see things Obviously there must have been something that gave the league reason to believe this was the way to go.

With CU it wouldn't surprise me if there were more repercussions to come from their poor form..

[Q.]

Excactly Wazz, plenty of stuck up clubs gone to the tribunal this year but as usual the "Northern" clubs dealt the harsh penalties......on that note wasnt there a complaint lodged against Woody South and Henley (both of which made the news), what ever came off those incidences??

The league gets written complaints every week. And most of them end up being fairly spurious.

I doubt they'd act on these complaints without some concrete evidence.

[Footy Chick]

Skip, you've made your point - why always us eh?

Perhaps you don't hear anything of the other clubs because they are pro-active in fixing their problems in order NOT to bring any further attention to themselves, instead of crying victim to anyone who will listen but doing nothing about trying to fix their problems.

Unfortunately, the SAAFL are coming down so hard on offenders/repeat offenders now that the committees of clubs in "danger" will be forced to take a harder line with their potential "firecrackers", if you will..

We've been stung too - a coach who got 4 weeks for umpire abuse -but instead of bitching on here, we dealt with it internally and he was subsequently let go and a stern warning to all others at the club that it won't be tolerated, which I can assure you hasn't been easy when the majority of our A grade is kids under 21 that think they know everything

[thrilling finish]

Your right I wasn't there and I have remained very analytical about the whole situation but I don't need to keep my mouth shut at all. Some of my friends and colleagues where at incidents involving Smithfield and I have made all the relevant inquiries regarding their expulsion.

I understand your frustration at missing finals that results suggest you should be entitled to play but I'm not the reason for that and me responding to a post with the reported facts is my prerogative . I have said nothing defamatory about Smithfield and I won't be keeping my mouth shut because I haven't said anything out of order.

Sure, but keep in mind that doesn't mean your second-hand information is correct.

13 reports with 9 guilty and a police investigation we can't comment on. I'd say the league did grow a pair and did what they needed to do.

Where on earth did you hear that?

[morell]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

Offense taken you knob! Yes there have been some issues but to suggest the "northern" clubs are rougher than other areas smacks of pure snobbery. Have a look at the tribunal this year and the clubs involved not in the north - Lockleys, Goodwood, Broadview, Seaton, Adelaide Uni, Woody South, Plympton, Mitcham, Henley, Pulteney, Gepps Cross, SHOC, SMOSH, Hope Valley, Modbury, Flinders Park, Col Light Gardens, TTG, Blackfriars, Gaza, Port District, West Croydon, Unley Mitcham, North Haven, PAOC, Portland.

But, but, but... Where are Mitchell Park! Those guys are thugs!

[Bloods4Life]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

Offense taken you knob! Yes there have been some issues but to suggest the "northern" clubs are rougher than other areas smacks of pure snobbery. Have a look at the tribunal this year and the clubs involved not in the north - Lockleys, Goodwood, Broadview, Seaton, Adelaide Uni, Woody South, Plympton, Mitcham, Henley, Pulteney, Gepps Cross, SHOC, SMOSH, Hope Valley, Modbury, Flinders Park, Col Light Gardens, TTG, Blackfriars, Gaza, Port District, West Croydon, Unley Mitcham, North Haven, PAOC, Portland.

But, but, but... Where are Mitchell Park! Those guys are thugs!

You beat me to it!!! But hey we can't throw stones............

[Cohiba]

Poor old Smithfield. Done nothing wrong on or off the field and still penalised. That is bloody unlucky for the Smithfield Angels.

i can name half the north sides who at one time or another in the last 5-10 years have had problems on and off the field its how you fix them problems in the future in all honesty in the north as you get further out it gets rougher no offense

Offense taken you knob! Yes there have been some issues but to suggest the "northern" clubs are rougher than other areas smacks of pure snobbery. Have a look at the tribunal this year and the clubs involved not in the north - Lockleys, Goodwood, Broadview, Seaton, Adelaide Uni, Woody South, Plympton, Mitcham, Henley, Pulteney, Gepps Cross, SHOC, SMOSH, Hope Valley, Modbury, Flinders Park, Col Light Gardens, TTG, Blackfriars, Gaza, Port District, West Croydon, Unley Mitcham, North Haven, PAOC, Portland.

But, but, but... Where are Mitchell Park! Those guys are thugs!

Undetected Thuggery M....

[happilyretired]

Enough about Smithfield anyway, let's focus on the important stuff at hand - this weeks crucial finals games! Peoples thoughts on the match ups??

Div 7
Angle Vale v Houghton - Houghton appear to have gone off the boil in recent weeks, although injuries may well have hindered their form. I think Angle Vale at home, big day for the club with the A & B grade playing will be up and about for this clash, and will be brimming with confidence given their last encounter a couple weeks ago. Houghton on the other hand have had a tough finish to the season having to travel halfway around the state and play against teams who have had more to play for and i think that will take it's toll.

Flinders Park v Flinders Uni - Well done and congrats to Uni on the finals berth, massive step forward for the club and vast improvement on previous seasons, however the step up to finals I think will be too great, and being the 6th best side this year will show. This game will be a bit of a non-event and at home I think Flinders Park will win comfortably.

Div 7R
Ingle Farm v Flinders Park - "Home" game for Farmers at Flinders Park will prove a challenge, especially if the rain continues during the week as forecast. This will be an absolute rip snorter - clubs shared the spoils during the minor round, i'll be biased and get on the Farmers for a win just feel as a team and a club they have too much to prove and play for, and look to just be clicking at the right time.

Angle Vale v Flinders Uni - Sorry crabs, but as with the A grade just don't think they will handle the step up to finals well enough, culminated with one of the longest road trips in the comp and Angle Vale at home in front of their home crowd, think this will be over by half time.

Good run down PG, good to see someone realizes there are finals on this week!

Probably agree with 3 of the predicted results, except i think the Flinders Uni Reserves side will roll Angle Vale out there.. From what i have seen they have a pretty strong side with some really physical onballers which compliment their handy outside runners and i'm going for an upset even with the massive road trip!

[Phantom Gossiper]

Probably agree with 3 of the predicted results, except i think the Flinders Uni Reserves side will roll Angle Vale out there.. From what i have seen they have a pretty strong side with some really physical onballers which compliment their handy outside runners and i'm going for an upset even with the massive road trip!

Hope you are right, would be good to see FU have some further success this season to cap off their remarkable improvement over the past 12 months!