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Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:56 am
by Browny25
woodublieve12 wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Browny25 wrote:Dumbest suggestion I have heard this year...

Why?

maybe if Lodge listened to more suggestions they may not be in this situation ;)


Hero

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:59 am
by woodublieve12
Browny25 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Browny25 wrote:Dumbest suggestion I have heard this year...

Why?

maybe if Lodge listened to more suggestions they may not be in this situation ;)


Hero

Glass houses... Don't expect a positive response when reply with such a negative one!

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:07 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Browny25 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Browny25 wrote:Dumbest suggestion I have heard this year...

Why?

maybe if Lodge listened to more suggestions they may not be in this situation ;)


Hero

Dumbest reply i have heard this year...

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:12 am
by Browny25
woodublieve12 wrote:Glass houses... Don't expect a positive response when reply with such a negative one!


My comment was in regards to the suggestion that the league would add a bye into their division 4 reserves comp!! Spare me! As if they would do that... hence why i said dumb suggestion.

Your suggestion of knowing how to run a football club is something totally different...

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:15 am
by Johno6
Give Browny a break guys, he is very emotional at the moment.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:20 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Browny25 wrote:My comment was in regards to the suggestion that the league would add a bye into their division 4 reserves comp!! Spare me! As if they would do that... hence why i said dumb suggestion.

No you are right, it is highly unlikely, but on the flip side there are a lot of clubs that would be adversely affected if Brahma Lodge (heaven forbid it came to it) were moved into the C grade divisions.

Some clubs might be eager to stay up divisions and be given a reprieve, but perhaps not all clubs.
On top of that, there would have to create a short fall somewhere down the line - an 8 team div 8 perhaps?
Would C grade sides be overly excited to know that Brahma Lodge who have had such rich success in the past few years suddenly be suiting up against them?
Where do Brahma Lodge fit into the C grade equation - does another side have to sacrifice their spot in a div to make way for them, or do they get chucked into the lowest grade where success is almost guaranteed?

Although a bye in the B grade isn't ideal and not a good look, it does maintain some sort of stability and ensure that Brahma has the tough season they obviously deserve...

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:22 am
by woodublieve12
Browny25 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Glass houses... Don't expect a positive response when reply with such a negative one!


My comment was in regards to the suggestion that the league would add a bye into their division 4 reserves comp!! Spare me! As if they would do that... hence why i said dumb suggestion.

Your suggestion of knowing how to run a football club is something totally different...

i have a very good idea....
Maybe you could have responded like you did here with your first paragraph... i wouldn't have got all superhero like ;)

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:26 am
by Browny25
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Browny25 wrote:My comment was in regards to the suggestion that the league would add a bye into their division 4 reserves comp!! Spare me! As if they would do that... hence why i said dumb suggestion.

No you are right, it is highly unlikely, but on the flip side there are a lot of clubs that would be adversely affected if Brahma Lodge (heaven forbid it came to it) were moved into the C grade divisions.

Some clubs might be eager to stay up divisions and be given a reprieve, but perhaps not all clubs.
On top of that, there would have to create a short fall somewhere down the line - an 8 team div 8 perhaps?
Would C grade sides be overly excited to know that Brahma Lodge who have had such rich success in the past few years suddenly be suiting up against them?
Where do Brahma Lodge fit into the C grade equation - does another side have to sacrifice their spot in a div to make way for them, or do they get chucked into the lowest grade where success is almost guaranteed?

Although a bye in the B grade isn't ideal and not a good look, it does maintain some sort of stability and ensure that Brahma has the tough season they obviously deserve...


Guess what...

These are all questions that you do not have to worry about figuring out!

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:30 am
by Footy Chick
ok people, that's your fishing expedition over for today. give it a rest,

Especially from those who are potentially in the same position.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:33 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Footy Chick wrote:ok people, that's your fishing expedition over for today. give it a rest,

Especially from those who are potentially in the same position.

aww cant have anyone picking on you poor wittle bear :P

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:42 am
by Groover
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Browny25 wrote:My comment was in regards to the suggestion that the league would add a bye into their division 4 reserves comp!! Spare me! As if they would do that... hence why i said dumb suggestion.

No you are right, it is highly unlikely, but on the flip side there are a lot of clubs that would be adversely affected if Brahma Lodge (heaven forbid it came to it) were moved into the C grade divisions.

Some clubs might be eager to stay up divisions and be given a reprieve, but perhaps not all clubs.
On top of that, there would have to create a short fall somewhere down the line - an 8 team div 8 perhaps?
Would C grade sides be overly excited to know that Brahma Lodge who have had such rich success in the past few years suddenly be suiting up against them?
Where do Brahma Lodge fit into the C grade equation - does another side have to sacrifice their spot in a div to make way for them, or do they get chucked into the lowest grade where success is almost guaranteed?

Although a bye in the B grade isn't ideal and not a good look, it does maintain some sort of stability and ensure that Brahma has the tough season they obviously deserve...


Pretty sure we could slot into the C1 comp and remove the current BYE there (sorry the fixture has been removed since the last time I looked).
If worse was to come to worse.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:44 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Groover wrote:Pretty sure we could slot into the C1 comp and remove the current BYE there. If worse was to come to worse

Well I sincerely hope for your clubs sake that it doesn't come to that anyway.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:45 am
by Groover
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Groover wrote:Pretty sure we could slot into the C1 comp and remove the current BYE there. If worse was to come to worse

Well I sincerely hope for your clubs sake that it doesn't come to that anyway.


Same mate, got all my fingers and toes crossed that this doesn't happen.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:46 am
by Footy Chick
i think you'll be fighting more than one opponent for that last C grade spot

What a crazy crazy year...and it hasn't even started yet.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:47 am
by Groover
Footy Chick wrote:i think you'll be fighting more than one opponent for that last C grade spot

What a crazy crazy year...and it hasn't even started yet.


You're not wrong there FC.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:54 am
by Cohiba
Some clubs may accept more readily the vagaries of enjoying success and accepting the leaner years as they come and go. Swings and roundabouts if you will. Kilburn appear to be in a similar situation when you see the clearances that have impacted on the Club. Sure they "mouth off" a bit when on top, but to their credit (so far as I have seen or heard) aren't lamenting about their situation at what potentially looks like a tough 2014 season with the loss of more than a couple of talented players.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:58 am
by The Ash Man
And what happens if BL do go down to C grade and then have an influx of players back?
They would dominate and make a few people look very silly.
Players have been known to leave, not like their new surroundings and return.

Just playing devils advocate

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:58 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Footy Chick wrote:i think you'll be fighting more than one opponent for that last C grade spot

What a crazy crazy year...and it hasn't even started yet.

Is grass roots sports across the board slowly dying in Australia?

In America they dont have structured grass roots sports programs - if you dont make it thats it.. could we be headed the same way?

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:16 am
by Footy Smart
PG I think it shows that spending money on players may achieve some 'short term' success (not just aimed at BL), but sustained success is dependant on strong junior set up and club culture. Clubs in BL's position should consider investing the funds they do have into getting more kids to the club and starting again.

Re: SAAFL Division 4 2014

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:28 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Footy Smart wrote:PG I think it shows that spending money on players may achieve some 'short term' success (not just aimed at BL), but sustained success is dependant on strong junior set up and club culture. Clubs in BL's position should consider investing the funds they do have into getting more kids to the club and starting again.

Agreed and understand that, but overall there are very few sports (in SA) that seem to be growing in recent times - cricket, aussie rules, lacrosse, rugby league.. they all seem to be on the decline.