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morell wrote:Personally think it should be the coaches that vote, they would have much more of an idea of who the players actually are.

I've seen some pretty bias voting done in the reserves and C grade comps over the years - I remember the lad from TOS who won it the other year, polled something ridiculous like 32 votes and they won half their games

morell wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:Please note this is intended in good spirit and not as an insult. Nothing wrong with sheep!

shots fired!

No comment

Our last game against Adelaide Uni in the magoos, we had Damien Loades play and he was CLEARLY best on ground - would've had 30 touches in the guts and kicked a cutla goals - he was a beast. He is a new player for us this year and I am certain the ump got him mixed up with Danny Chronis - another new player, who played in a forward pocket and was serviceable, kicked a goal, but wasn't in the top 10 players on the ground let alone BOG.

Then we have old mate Lachlan Pike in the last round against Flinders Uni. Kicks 6 goals from a wing/half forward and had a stack of the ball - 0 votes. Old mate Ringo hardly played at all for the second half - 1 vote.

I geddit, its not the umpires job, so give it to someone who can more easily adjudicate.

Personally, I reckon the umps have got it spot on the last couple of years

Interesting fact: A ruckman has won the D7 medal in the last four years - Dow, Gannell, Bellman, Schutz.

Q. wrote:Personally, I reckon the umps have got it spot on the last couple of years

Interesting fact: A ruckman has won the D7 medal in the last four years - Dow, Gannell, Bellman, Schutz.

How many times would Cam have been in the top few as well those years? Kid is a gun!

fisho mcspaz wrote:Please note this is intended in good spirit and not as an insult. Nothing wrong with sheep!

Haha, nice work fisho, that's going straight up in our private group

Zartan wrote:

Q. wrote:Personally, I reckon the umps have got it spot on the last couple of years

Interesting fact: A ruckman has won the D7 medal in the last four years - Dow, Gannell, Bellman, Schutz.

How many times would Cam have been in the top few as well those years? Kid is a gun!

He was runner-up to Gannell. Probably had a bit of a dip in form last year, but certainly bounced back this season.

6 games 11 votes makes me wonder what if i played whole season in B grade

Robb_Stark wrote:6 games 11 votes makes me wonder what if i played whole season in B grade

It took until the last few rounds to make your move though - probably left your dramatic run to the medal a little too late?

Q. wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:Please note this is intended in good spirit and not as an insult. Nothing wrong with sheep!

Haha, nice work fisho, that's going straight up in our private group

Private groups are for pussies.

Medal Count Top 10
D7:
30...Cam Schutz (Houghton)
17...Michael Gollan (Angle Vale)
14...Adam Varcoe (Angle Vale)
13...Tom Roberts (Mitchell Park)
12...Chris Bradford (Mitchell Park)
.......Joseph Adamo (St Pauls)
11...Phil Dudley (Angle Vale)
.......Nathan Hall (Houghton)
10...Toby Nihill (Adelaide)
........Dave Keetch (Houghton)

D7R:
17...Lindsay Edwards (North Pines)
15...Tri Hung Nguyen (Adelaide)
12...Ty Oswald (Houghton)
11...Jason Dolan (Houghton)
09...Chris McMichael (Adelaide)
.......Ricky O'Loughlin (North Pines)
.......Daniel Roberts (St Pauls)
08...Tyson Roling (Houghton)
.......Michael Skinner (North Pines)
.......Konstantino Tripodi (St Pauls)

Q. wrote:Personally, I reckon the umps have got it spot on the last couple of years

Interesting fact: A ruckman has won the D7 medal in the last four years - Dow, Gannell, Bellman, Schutz.

Do you really want to me to prove how much umpires got it wrong statistically? I don't have the time man!

Zartan wrote:Medal Count Top 10
D7:
30...Cam Schutz (Houghton)
17...Michael Gollan (Angle Vale)
14...Adam Varcoe (Angle Vale)
13...Tom Roberts (Mitchell Park)
12...Chris Bradford (Mitchell Park)
.......Joseph Adamo (St Pauls)
11...Phil Dudley (Angle Vale)
.......Nathan Hall (Houghton)
10...Toby Nihill (Adelaide)
........Dave Keetch (Houghton)

D7R:
17...Lindsay Edwards (North Pines)
15...Tri Hung Nguyen (Adelaide)
12...Ty Oswald (Houghton)
11...Jason Dolan (Houghton)
09...Chris McMichael (Adelaide)
.......Ricky O'Loughlin (North Pines)
.......Daniel Roberts (St Pauls)
08...Tyson Roling (Houghton)
.......Michael Skinner (North Pines)
.......Konstantino Tripodi (St Pauls)

8 votes in 3 games, i will take that! Cam easily the best all year! Plays hard and fair and one of the nicest blokes going around. Well deserved!

Harry49 wrote:8 votes in 3 games, i will take that! Cam easily the best all year! Plays hard and fair and one of the nicest blokes going around. Well deserved!

Careful Hollywood, people might find out your true identity

Q. wrote:Personally, I reckon the umps have got it spot on the last couple of years

Interesting fact: A ruckman has won the D7 medal in the last four years - Dow, Gannell, Bellman, Schutz.

And if Roberts didnt go down it could of been ruckman 1-2

morell wrote:Our last game against Adelaide Uni in the magoos, we had Damien Loades play and he was CLEARLY best on ground - would've had 30 touches in the guts and kicked a cutla goals - he was a beast. He is a new player for us this year and I am certain the ump got him mixed up with Danny Chronis - another new player, who played in a forward pocket and was serviceable, kicked a goal, but wasn't in the top 10 players on the ground let alone BOG.

Then we have old mate Lachlan Pike in the last round against Flinders Uni. Kicks 6 goals from a wing/half forward and had a stack of the ball - 0 votes. Old mate Ringo hardly played at all for the second half - 1 vote.

I geddit, its not the umpires job, so give it to someone who can more easily adjudicate.

There was always going to be some weird voting decisions. Some of the umpires in Div 7 can barely get to a contest and do a ball up let alone realise who is playing well. I think the coaches should discuss after games.

Zartan wrote:

Harry49 wrote:8 votes in 3 games, i will take that! Cam easily the best all year! Plays hard and fair and one of the nicest blokes going around. Well deserved!

Careful Hollywood, people might find out your true identity

The fact i have '49' and say im from Houghton, i think it wouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out

Harry49 wrote: I think the coaches should discuss after games.

Only downside with coaches doing the votes is if one is a little bias or wants to push the agenda of a certain player - especially if they think that player is getting close or a chance to win the medal.

No easy answer, leave it as is, nothing is perfect but generally I think the results end up right even if a few blokes are robbed/gifted votes - anything below top 3 doesn't really count for much anyway..

Harry49 wrote:

morell wrote:Our last game against Adelaide Uni in the magoos, we had Damien Loades play and he was CLEARLY best on ground - would've had 30 touches in the guts and kicked a cutla goals - he was a beast. He is a new player for us this year and I am certain the ump got him mixed up with Danny Chronis - another new player, who played in a forward pocket and was serviceable, kicked a goal, but wasn't in the top 10 players on the ground let alone BOG.

Then we have old mate Lachlan Pike in the last round against Flinders Uni. Kicks 6 goals from a wing/half forward and had a stack of the ball - 0 votes. Old mate Ringo hardly played at all for the second half - 1 vote.

I geddit, its not the umpires job, so give it to someone who can more easily adjudicate.

There was always going to be some weird voting decisions. Some of the umpires in Div 7 can barely get to a contest and do a ball up let alone realise who is playing well. I think the coaches should discuss after games.

And that's the A Grade umpires!

Reserves umpires... if they know some of the rules and don't blatantly cheat - you're ahead of the bell curve. But most of them barely know their arse from their face let alone the names of the subjective best player on the ground.

Coaches may be biased or slanted, but so what, I really like the AFL Coaches MVP award where each coach gives their votes 5 to 1 for BOTH teams. So if they both give the same player 5 votes, that player gets 10 for the game. That would go a long way to removing any bias.

morell wrote:Coaches may be biased or slanted, but so what, I really like the AFL Coaches MVP award where each coach gives their votes 5 to 1 for BOTH teams. So if they both give the same player 5 votes, that player gets 10 for the game. That would go a long way to removing any bias.

I like it!